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[Stonetech]

I harvested the God Buds today. Man that shit was greasy/sticky! Looks like about 4 oz. So that puts me at about 10 oz total which is ok with me. I will post the actual weight once its dry.



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After seeing the results of this harvy I'm pretty hopeful for the next round. All the strains I have to choose from are super stretchy like the OG. If I can get 3 oz per plant with bagseed I can't wait to see what I can get with good genetics! 12-14 oz will be the new goal.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Very nice! Reminds me of my youth....

 

[Stonetech]

Very nice! Reminds me of my youth....

Yeah, the good ol days! Maybe you should grab some seeds and give them a go your self. I think I paid $60 for a 10 pack from Vancouver seed bank, they don't ship to the states though. By far the gooiest shit I've ever grown, second place would be JOTI's blueberry. I would highly recommend doin a SOG with these strains though, they don't branch out much at all. Only problem is there isn't a filter that can control the smell.

 

[Stonetech]

My timing of this transition is alot better, the veg plants are ready to go into flower I'm just gonna let them adjust to the training then flip em.

I've got 3 SKs and 1 WW for this round. The SKs have 2 distinct phenos, The 1st is more bushy and the 2 others are more sativa like. The WW is alot like the SK pheno 1, bushy fast growing indica, its just a little lighter in color. They all stretch like crazy tho so I need to flip em ASAP.

This time Im gonna constrain the light mover to about 6-8 inches, I think I spread the light out too thin last time. Im also gonna remove all of the sucker branches and back branches, there was just too much popcorn on the OGs last round.

Last round I under fed and under lit my veg plants to keep them from overgrowing my veg space, I think this really hurt my yield. This time I fed them as much as they wanted both in light and nutrient and Im hoping it will pay off. It almost seems like you have to get there tolerance up in veg then level off in flower. We shall see.

I topped and trimmed them instead to keep em under control. Probably harvested about 30 clones in total, giving most of them to friends. I kept 3 SK1s, 2WWs and 1SK2 to veg for next round.

SK1 (indica pheno)




White Widow



SK2s (sativa pheno)

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Yeah, the good ol days! Maybe you should grab some seeds and give them a go your self. I think I paid $60 for a 10 pack from Vancouver seed bank, they don't ship to the states though. By far the gooiest shit I've ever grown, second place would be JOTI's blueberry. I would highly recommend doin a SOG with these strains though, they don't branch out much at all. Only problem is there isn't a filter that can control the smell.

I have 6 old BOG C99 seeds I must try first.... recently discovered! :0

 

[Stonetech]

Plants look healthy and ready to go, they smell really good too.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Damn hackers. We're losing good stuff here (((((((((((((((

 

[Dameon]

You sure have done a whole lot with a 400W, a light rail and Vert growing. Nice setup tech! Crunchy!

 

[onlyhuman420]

Love your work buddy,just wanted to say thanks for sharing
I got some great info and idea's from your thread.
keep up the good work!

 

[Stonetech]

Damn hackers. We're losing good stuff here (((((((((((((((

Yah that was a bit sketchy.

You sure have done a whole lot with a 400W, a light rail and Vert growing. Nice setup tech! Crunchy!

Thanks dude most guys would say its too much for a small grow but I just can't help myself lol.

Love your work buddy,just wanted to say thanks for sharing
I got some great info and idea's from your thread.
keep up the good work!

Thanks bro I'm glad if anybody besides myself can benefit from this thread.

I barely averted a complete loss of my entire grow recently. I had been having trouble with the gfi outlets tripping. This happened a couple times just days before I was leaving to mexico for 7 nights, great timing lol! The only thing I could come up with was that maybe too many of the sub pumps were kickin on at the same time, I have 6 altogether. So I tried to offset the times as best i could and removed the cloner full of seedlings from the cab and put it on another circuit, I knew they would not last more than a few hours without power.

So I head off on my trip leaving a friend to check on them as often as possible, turning off my cel phone and praying for some luck. No such luck. I come back a week later to the find that the gfis were tripping constantly, my friend had stopped by 4 times and each time had to reset them. The power was out when I got home and the plants in veg were wilted badly. Luckily they recovered and are still vegging away. The 4 in flower I'm still watching closely, after all theat stress I'm sure this won't be a seedless grow.

Anyways here's a little update, there almost 6 weeks into flower but they look more like week 4. They look happy and healthy apart from some light bleaching.



Heres my fav the SK1



White Widow , severely bleached but doesn't seem to mind



And the SK2s, probably ditch these next round



Veg looks good considering, roots are damaged though and will take time to recover. I now believe it was the wiring in the veg fixture that was causing the problem, it should be fixed now.



The early wonder skunk is coming along, I'll probably be doin the seed run with a friend at they're place. He's got a lot more space and I don't want to risk pollinating my other girls.




I also built a drying cab a couple weeks ago out of an old filing cabinet, since I'm not using it I lent it to a friend to try out but I'll of post some pics of it when I get it back. It holds about 2-3 lbs and can takes a couple weeks to finish.

 

[Xoshua]

See the stage your at in cultivating is where I'd like to be. I had a forum thread but since the hack its gone. What kind of area would I need to have your set up? And how did you do you ventillation? I'll also browse some more to see if there's an answer here. Good work though, I'm envious.

 

[Stonetech]

@ Xoshua

My bloom cab is about 3' x 3' x 4' h and veg is bout 3' x 5' x 3' h, so pretty compact growing space. For ventilation I've got a passive intake and exhaust on the veg side (exhausting into the bloom). The bloom side has an active intake (pulling air from outside) and about a 330 cfm 3 speed max fan exhausting both cabs through a 400 cfm filter. The active intake comes on with the lights in the bloom cab. Even when its on there's enough negative pressure to suck the heat out of the veg and keep them both cool.

I decided to vent the veg side into the bloom for a few reasons:

A) Theres no room in veg for a filter

B) I only need one exaust/filter for both sides this way

C) In the winter I leave the veg light on 24/7, this keeps the bloom side warm during lights out

 

[Stonetech]

I'm glad to report that there are still no signs of hermies, I really dodged a bullet there. That being said it probably still cost me at least a week of flower. I'm mean they're still lookin ok just behind schedule.

The 2 SK2s are the smallest of the 4 and incidentally the furthest along. I've never had a 10 week strain that had 100% cloudy trichs after only 7 weeks and I'm not sure what to make of it. Hopefully they put on some weight in the next couple weeks.



The White Widow is lookin good its just so damn leafy. I mean there's leafs coming out of everywhere. I guess with some better training next time and less topping/fimming it could be manageable, It sure does stretch enough.



And lastly the SK1, what a beast. It towers over the rest of them and is covered with frosty rock-hard nugs, mmm-mmm. The only question is how many do I want to run next round, I've got as many as 3 in veg.



The veg plants have completely recovered as well, new white roots are emerging from the dried out ones. Problem is I've run out of room already and I don't want to fim them this time, just one single topping and thats it. Not sure there's anything I can do but watch, it'll be 2-3 weeks before I chop the others.

 

[predd]

hey stonetech how do you feel about defoliating during veg/flower? you think it ups the yield?

 

[Stonetech]

@Predd

I would like to believe that removing the odd fan leaf is ok if its to let more light through the canopy, probably shouldn't remove too many at once though. But I think its best to plan ahead and remove whole branches (instead of just leaves) that won't get enough light all the way through flower and never ripen fully. The branches left alone seem to really benefit from this, growing larger and yielding more.

When I move mine into flower I first remove all the branches on the backside that I know are never gonna see the light. I keep removing more branches that will never "be all they can be" until the end of stretch. I also try to get rid of suckers as they pop up throughout flower, kind of nip them in the bud so to speak.

I'm still learning though and I've been seeing alot of success with "lollipopping". Stripping the bottom 1/3 or 1/2 of of a plant or single branch seems to encourage more growth closer to the light and results in larger main colas and no popcorn whatsoever. I've also seen others remove all secondary branching and just grow straight up baseball bats. Both of these techniques I'd like to try.

Hope this helps, as you can probably tell from my current grow I myself have a lot to learn about these practices.

 

[predd]

tks for the input much appreciated i am running a 400w vertical with 2 waterfarms in a 20"x36"x62" tent with chicken wire just trying to tweak things for max yield, ive been topping all of them so far but im gonna try one untopped this time see what happens.
keep up the good work love following your grow since im running something very similar to you 10 zips has been my max so far from 2 plants i know if i had your skillz i could up that

 

[Stonetech]

Haha I don't know bout skillz but I'm enjoying myself. 10 zips is about where I'm at too and I think we're doin alright. I try not to get caught up in all the gpw talk and just have fun. I'm a mason by trade and was always taught to focus on quality first, then quantity.

 

[Stonetech]

Well last round was kind of a bust, still in the dryer so not sure what the final weight is but I know its not good enough. Even tho most of my probs stemmed from a faulty timer causing the breaker to trip i've decided to make a bunch of changes for this next round, things I've been thinkin about for awhile.

First was to upgrade my buckets/res to a bigger size. The buckets went from 1 gal to 3 gal, I might also change from 3.5" nets to 6" next time. The res went from 4 4 gal res' to one large res that can hold around 50 gal if needed. On my last run the plants completely filled the 1 gals about halfway thru flower and I think this could be affecting my yield. Since I already had the walls in place I just used a $20 piece of pondliner to create a res, couldn't find a precast one in those dimensions anyway.



Next I built a frame to hold the buckets above the res



Then I just made a cover for the frame out of plywood with a trap door to mix/monitor nutes. I also mounted a fan in the center to blow up at the light.



After it was done I covered everything with reflectix and trellis. I cut holes for the buckets and dropped them in. Just like the last system there's a small pump for each bucket. Also mounted the filter on the outside of the cab so the fan pushes thru it.
I know its not the most efficient way but it was taking up way too much room, besides I'm still only on the lowest of 3 settings.



I slacked off alot last run with the training and I'm not gonna let it happen again.



In case no one noticed I also removed the light mover, I couldn't tell if it was really helpin that much during flower so I'm gonna do a run without it for comparison. Probably veg another week the flip.

 

[FR33MASON]

Nice design.

One thing though, are you concerned at all about that wood frame warping and twisting? Also mould and mildew issues might arise with that frame left raw like that. If the wood does become a problem, you might want to consider aluminum hss or something other than untreated 2X4.

 

[Stonetech]

@ FR33MASON

You bring up a good point. My old setup was built the same way and I didn't notice any mould on it when I took it apart but I only used it for 2 cycles. It def would've been smarter to use treated wood, if an issue arises I guess thats what I'll do. Aluminum would be good too but its too expensive and harder to work with than wood, IME. I think treated wood would be more than enough cause it doesn't have to last forever.

Thanks for your input.