Man, it is hard to know what to say here. Trayvon is dead, and that is a tragedy. Zimmer was a nosey douche bag cop wannabe.
The facts, as I know them, do support a self defense claim by Zimmer. He was acting as a neighborhood watchman. He observed what he thought was a suspicious person. He called 911 to report same. There was an altercation between he and Trayvon. An eyewitness (maybe two, but I only saw the statement of one) said Trayvon was on top of Zimmer and beating him and called 911. Someone (identified by the police as Zimmer) can be heard calling for help then the pop of a firearm is heard. The eye witness caller then says Trayvon, who had been on top administering a beating on Zimmer, is shot.
Sounds like a pretty good case of self defense to me, and contrary to Unclebuck's learned interpretation of Florida law this situation is pretty well covered.
It's still a fucked up situation: the kid is dead.
On a whole different topic, UncleUterus charges me and several others with being racist and then magnanimously calls for no more references to race in this thread. Isn't that special? The spokesman for uteri everywhere trots out all kinds of racial charges, alleges that Zimmer is a murderer motivated by racial animus, refers to "hate crimes", insists that anybody who sees thing differently "has no heart", etc, but the rest of us get no chance to respond. Typical race-baiting, ever so sensitive, douche bag liberal. You and others brought the racial aspect into this discussion.
