trayvan martin

[NoDrama]

Just responding to like with like there Cracker , if ya don;t like it then don't be a Zimmerman and start something you can't handle.

Ya just shot yourself in the dick by the way " only a concerned citizen" doesn't have the legal or societal right to go chasing after and confronting folks. You REALLY blew your arguement up with that.

You ever watch Forest Gump? You know that part where his mom explains how stupid is as stupid does?

 

[NoDrama]

He got out of his vehicle and followed Trayvon down a sidewalk between two buildings. Where vehicles can't go. He actively pursued him and confronted him (per the girlfriend's account). She stated she heard his headphone hit the ground like he had been shoved. That is her account. But it seems eyewitnesses only matter when they favor Zimmerman in this thread. Sorry to bring it up.

He didn't follow him, he jumped out from behind a bush and cut him in half with 500 rounds of 7.62mm full metal jacket fired from his full auto M-60, Follow? No he was stalking his prey for miles through the Serengeti before it got to this part.

Does a headphone sound different if it is shoved vs falling or slammed or flipped or smashed or softly stroked? You can tell all that through a "thud"?

 

[cliffey501]

Just responding to like with like there Cracker , if ya don;t like it then don't be a Zimmerman and start something you can't handle.

Ya just shot yourself in the dick by the way " only a concerned citizen" doesn't have the legal or societal right to go chasing after and confronting folks. You REALLY blew your arguement up with that.

If trayvon was concerned about this scaryy huge man that was following him why wouldn't he phone the police?
Why wouldn't he go to a neighbors house and ask for help?

 

[UncleBuck]

Trayvon was on top of Zimmer beating him. He had exhausted all possible means of escape.

you keep saying that trayvon was administering a beating to a man nearly twice his size, yet you have no evidence of this. it is unfounded.

he had 360 degrees of escape options.

 

[NoDrama]

If trayvon was concerned about this scaryy huge man that was following him why wouldn't he phone the police?
Why wouldn't he go to a neighbors house and ask for help?

He called his GF.

 

[desert dude]

Seriously? Like not "following" him in the first place?

Go read the link to the law that UB so helpfully provided, it's all there in black and white.

 

[cliffey501]

She said it sounded like he had been shoved? Tell me what a zimmerman sounds like when shoving a martin? She heard the phone hit the ground that doesn't prove zimmermen attacked him or pushed him.He might have dropped the phone to swing on zimmermen.

 

[Carne Seca]

Un-fucking-believable.

 

[UncleBuck]

But it seems eye(ear?)witnesses only matter when they favor Zimmerman in this thread. Sorry to bring it up.

yep, you said it.

the only account that matters is the single, incomplete one from an anonymous guy named "john". no mention of the police trying to "correct" other accounts, because those don't matter.

only the anonymous "john", whose eyewitness testimony will be injected with enough doubt to make it laughable, is worth listening to.

and of course, let's make sure to turn his account from "on top of him" to "wailing him relentlessly with the force of 10,000 black incredible hulks".

seems legit.

 

[desert dude]

you keep saying that trayvon was administering a beating to a man nearly twice his size, yet you have no evidence of this. it is unfounded.

he had 360 degrees of escape options.

God, this is too easy. You keep saying Zimmer is nearly twice Trayvon's size, and earlier you posted Trayvon's fifth grade school pictures. Somebody a while back posted current pictures of Trayvon, all 6'3" of him.

You keep saying there is no evidence of Zimmer being beaten. There are two independent sources that say he was beaten.

You don't like this incident. I get that. But you are on the wrong side of the facts and law on this.

 

[UncleBuck]

God, this is too easy. You keep saying Zimmer is nearly twice Trayvon's size, and earlier you posted Trayvon's fifth grade school pictures. Somebody a while back posted current pictures of Trayvon, all 6'3" of him.

and skinnier than all get out.

You keep saying there is no evidence of Zimmer being beaten. There are two independent sources that say he was beaten.

you mean, an anonymous eyewitness who was coached by the cops and contradicted by another account? and a cop who wasn't there?

air tight.

got any photos of zimmerman post beating? lol, that's what i thought. you have no actual, physical, tangible evidence of an assault, none at all.

You don't like this incident. I get that. But you are on the wrong side of the facts and law on this.

that's not what the guy who signed the thing into law says.

 

[desert dude]

and skinnier than all get out.



you mean, an anonymous eyewitness who was coached by the cops and contradicted by another account? and a cop who wasn't there?

air tight.

got any photos of zimmerman post beating? lol, that's what i thought. you have no actual, physical, tangible evidence of an assault, none at all.



that's not what the guy who signed the thing into law says.

Unfortunately, that IS what the law says.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

Ya just shot yourself in the dick by the way " only a concerned citizen" doesn't have the legal or societal right to go chasing after and confronting folks. You REALLY blew your arguement up with that.

Actually, I do have the legal right to speak to ANYONE, for any reason. They have the right to tell me to fuck off when I do speak to them. You surrender ZERO rights to self defense for initiating conversation. Now if you go touching someone, threatening them or assaulting them, that's a different story.

I have been in the situation in my own neighborhood, with a local sex offender that started cruising our area, sitting in his car watching the kids play right in front of our homes. All the neighbors were buzzing and texting and whispering. Cops were called out several times, but never showed up in time to harrass him. The last time we ever saw him was when I went out with my next door neighbor, who happens to be a captain in the Special Forces Regiment stationed here at Bragg, to have a civil chat with him. I have a concealed carry license for NC and you can be sure I was carrying. The police are a reactionary force, they are not here for your protection, they are here to make arrests after the fact. As a sentient lifeform, you are charged with your own protection. EVERYONE has that right, whether the current government recognizes it or not. I'm taking care of my business no matter what, if I gotta go to jail to protect my family, so be it.

 

[cannabineer]

Un-fucking-believable.

Oh come now ... it makes perfect sense. Trayvon threw the phone down in order to distract Zimmie, who turned around ... so that when Trayvon threw his punch, that's how Z got the back of his head bloodied. Z, in a perfectly understandable defense reflex, pointed the gun behind himself and squeezed one off. but he turned around to inspect his handiwork, and the empty case whacked him in the nose from below. That really hurts! The pain was so great he fell on his back and did the involuntary Three Stooges thing with his feet, ruining his shirt.

(adjusts tweed cap and monocle, relights pipe, seeks pizza)
cn

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Go read the link to the law that UB so helpfully provided, it's all there in black and white.

I know enough from the 911 call he could have left Martin alone. A few minutes later he could've been fucking his girlfriend, not some creepy Mexican.

It's too bad Martin wasn't a real thug. Zimmerman would be dead now.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

Tell me what a zimmerman sounds like when shoving a martin?

That is some funny shit. Give him some props for injecting some levity into this debate.

 

[UncleBuck]

Unfortunately, that IS what the law says.

the law says you need to exhaust every possible method of escape, not follow the guy for a hundred feet from your car or so.

it also says you need to be fearing for your life or great bodily harm. i know that you are a pussy and freak out if you get a bloody nose, but it doesn't mean you'll die.

not that there is any evidence to prove zimmerman ever had a bloody nose.

 

[Harrekin]

This whole thing just proves Obama is a racist, did noone else notice his use of the "all black people look the same" stereotype with his little "If I had a son, hed look like Trevyon" ditty?

 

[cliffey501]

the law says you need to exhaust every possible method of escape, not follow the guy for a hundred feet from your car or so.

it also says you need to be fearing for your life or great bodily harm. i know that you are a pussy and freak out if you get a bloody nose, but it doesn't mean you'll die.

not that there is any evidence to prove zimmerman ever had a bloody nose.

Zimmerman didnt have to flee.The threat didnt start until zimmerman was on his back getting owned and you think size has anything to do with it? Tell that to roy jones jr.

 

[bundee1]

Zimmerman stalks him with the car, gets out WITHOUT A GUN? Did he run back to the car to get it you fucking moron? And I call you a fucking moron because Zimmerman didn't use his Jedi powers to call the gun to him. He stalked him in his car, walked out of the car with the gun and again had no identifying markers on the car because he isnt really a neighborhood watchman, just a concerned citizen, and approached someone in the dark. What do you expect the kid to do?

Who is the fucking aggressor in this case? Heads harder than a fucking rock. Im surprised you havent inbred yourself into exinction yet. Any other possible mates were probably chased away by neighborhood watch for not looking like your family.