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NoDrama

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bundee1 said:
Im judging him based on his actions and the facts discussed here. He crept up on Trayvon in the car, approached him with a weapon in the dark, never identified himself.

Trayvon was walking in the rain with candy and juice, even if he was just meandering around the community, its his right to walk to his fathers house anyway he wants to. That is the point. We are giving Zimmerman powers only the Police have. Who the hell goes to the store to run errands with a gun? Paranoid much?

Come on lets get back to common sense. Who runs errands with a gun? Is this gated community in the middle of Fallujah?
No place in the USA is that bad that you have to walk around armed to run errands. No gun to run errands, its just a simple ass whooping and Trayvon is probably in jail. What mindset must you have to follow anyone around with a gun?
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#1 you aren't basing anything on facts, its self evident you aren't when you say Zimmerman crept up on him. Treyvon was STARING at him, how do you sneak up on someone who sees you plain as day and then runs?

#2 CCW holders generally carry their gun at all times, that is the WHOLE IDEA behind CCW, so that you aren't caught without a means of defense during some ordinary day to day chance encounter. Guns don't do a damn bit of good if they're locked up at home.
 
tryingtogrow89

tryingtogrow89

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bundee1 said:
Im judging him based on his actions and the facts discussed here. He crept up on Trayvon in the car, approached him with a weapon in the dark, never identified himself.

Trayvon was walking in the rain with candy and juice, even if he was just meandering around the community, its his right to walk to his fathers house anyway he wants to. That is the point. We are giving Zimmerman powers only the Police have. Who the hell goes to the store to run errands with a gun? Paranoid much?

Come on lets get back to common sense. Who runs errands with a gun? Is this gated community in the middle of Fallujah?
No place in the USA is that bad that you have to walk around armed to run errands. No gun to run errands, its just a simple ass whooping and Trayvon is probably in jail. What mindset must you have to follow anyone around with a gun?
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If i lived in florida my gun would never leave my side. The crime rate out there is unbelievable.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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To be honest you can buy a gun at a gun show with ZERO checks. Hell most states don't even require you to have it registered..Now being CCW requires a lot more, but just getting a firearm is pretty damn easy. Which is awesome and sucks @ the same time
 
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bundee1

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NoDrama said:
#1 you aren't basing anything on facts, its self evident you aren't when you say Zimmerman crept up on him. Treyvon was STARING at him, how do you sneak up on someone who sees you plain as day and then runs?

#2 CCW holders generally carry their gun at all times, that is the WHOLE IDEA behind CCW, so that you aren't caught without a means of defense during some ordinary day to day chance encounter. Guns don't do a damn bit of good if they're locked up at home.
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Why does he need the fucking gun all the time? This isnt a war zone, only you and he and all the other gun nuts seem to think it is. You end up identifying everyone as threat or non threat. Great mindset. Leave that shit behind No Drama, just because you have the ability and training doesn't mean you have to live your life like that everyday. Leave it behind bro, leave it behind.

Where does Zimmerman get that mentality. Again this is the USA not Baghdad, not even in the most dangerous cities.
 
tryingtogrow89

tryingtogrow89

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bundee1 said:
Why does he need the fucking gun all the time? This isnt a war zone, only you and he and all the other gun nuts seem to think it is. You end up identifying everyone as threat or non threat. Great mindset. Leave that shit behind No Drama, just because you have the ability and training doesn't mean you have to live your life like that everyday. Leave it behind bro, leave it behind.

Where does Zimmerman get that mentality. Again this is the USA not Baghdad, not even in the most dangerous cities.
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Crime rates overall go down the more guns there are in the public hands.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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bundee1 said:
Why does he need the fucking gun all the time? This isnt a war zone, only you and he and all the other gun nuts seem to think it is. You end up identifying everyone as threat or non threat. Great mindset. Leave that shit behind No Drama, just because you have the ability and training doesn't mean you have to live your life like that everyday. Leave it behind bro, leave it behind.

Where does Zimmerman get that mentality. Again this is the USA not Baghdad, not even in the most dangerous cities.
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Zimmerman got attacked and legally defended himself according to the local police. He survived a much worse beating at the very least.

Isnt your statement sort of self answering?
 
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NoDrama

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bundee1 said:
Why does he need the fucking gun all the time? This isnt a war zone, only you and he and all the other gun nuts seem to think it is. You end up identifying everyone as threat or non threat. Great mindset. Leave that shit behind No Drama, just because you have the ability and training doesn't mean you have to live your life like that everyday. Leave it behind bro, leave it behind.

Where does Zimmerman get that mentality. Again this is the USA not Baghdad, not even in the most dangerous cities.
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Gun nuts? I don't carry a firearm on me except when hunting or target shooting. I have no reason, the amount of violent crime in my neck of the woods consists of running over small animals on the road. Occasionally a lost person comes up the drive to ask directions.

I am a nut about preserving my own life from would be assailants however.
 
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bundee1

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bundee1 said:
Why does he need the fucking gun all the time? This isnt a war zone, only you and he and all the other gun nuts seem to think it is. You end up identifying everyone as threat or non threat. Great mindset. Leave that shit behind No Drama, just because you have the ability and training doesn't mean you have to live your life like that everyday. Leave it behind bro, leave it behind.

Where does Zimmerman get that mentality. Again this is the USA not Baghdad, not even in the most dangerous cities.
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Maybe this is the mentality Zimmerman had when he pursued Martin:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/05/of-50000-marijuana-arrest_n_1078023.html
 
londonfog

londonfog

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NoDrama said:
#1 you aren't basing anything on facts, its self evident you aren't when you say Zimmerman crept up on him. Treyvon was STARING at him, how do you sneak up on someone who sees you plain as day and then runs?

#2 CCW holders generally carry their gun at all times, that is the WHOLE IDEA behind CCW, so that you aren't caught without a means of defense during some ordinary day to day chance encounter. Guns don't do a damn bit of good if they're locked up at home.
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Not me ..I don't feel the need to have it all times.. I do carry it most when I'm out of state ( except states in which it is not honored ). but in everyday life its only when making the money runs.
 
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