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UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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sync0s said:
Nothing against him and NoDrama, but they are clinging to the "assumed paths" thing and not focusing on the questions we displayed. I think it's due time for those who are for Zimmerman to admit that there are a lot of holes in his story and that he needs have charges pressed against him so that he must prove his story in a court of law. Let's end this god damned thread now.
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close but completely opposite.

the prosecution will have to prove that his story is bullshit beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
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cliffey501

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UncleBuck said:
you're right, you're spouting off with stupidity.

if you posted a link to the interview, why do you now know what pappa zimmerman said in that interview?
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Because i watched the interview go watch it again and tell me he says trayvon has his arms pinned and is straddling him.Its not there.LIES.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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UncleBuck said:
see?

two idiots presenting zimmerman's constantly changing story as if it were fact.

what you both need to add at the end is "according to zimmerman".

dumbasses.
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And the eyewitness....

This thread would not be 200 pages + long if you didnt keep conveniently forgetting facts.
 
sync0s

sync0s

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UncleBuck said:
close but completely opposite.

the prosecution will have to prove that his story is bullshit beyond a reasonable doubt.
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"Because an affirmative defense requires an assertion of facts beyond those claimed by the plaintiff, generally the party who offers an affirmative defense bears the burden of proof.[SUP][6][/SUP] The standard of proof is typically lower than beyond a reasonable doubt. It can either be proved by clear and convincing evidence or by a preponderance of the evidence."
 
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NoDrama

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UncleBuck said:
the new prosecutor who took over for wolfinger said that they could choose to proceed without a grand jury.
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Yeah, its not a federal crime so its not mandatory. But the prosecutor isn't dumb to take a loser of a case like this. Everyone just wants this to blow over, and it will just as soon as the media finds something else to sensationalize.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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cliffey501 said:
Because i watched the interview go watch it again and tell me he says trayvon has his arms pinned and is straddling him.Its not there.LIES.
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god damn, they make them stupid in canada.

Moments before George Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin, the black 17-year-old had him pinned to the ground, was beating him and had threatened to kill him, his father told an Orlandotelevision station.Robert Zimmerman, 64, of Lake Mary, told WOFL-Channel 35 that his son shot Trayvon only after the Miami Gardens teenager knocked him down with a single punch that broke his nose, then got on top of him and kept punching.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-29/news/os-george-zimmerman-dad-interview-20120329_1_robert-zimmerman-son-shot-police-headquarters​
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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"Trayvon Martin got on top of him and started beating him in his face, in his nose, hitting his head on the concrete," said Robert Zimmerman, 64.


"Trayvon Martin said something to the effect of 'you’re going to die now' or 'you're gonna die tonight' -- something to that effect," Robert Zimmerman continued. "He continued to beat George, and at some point George pulled his pistol and did what he did."


George Zimmerman, however, appeared uninjured in a police surveillance video taken in the Sanford police station after Martin was shot dead. Robert Zimmerman says he has not seen the video, but admits his son was "not given any medical attention."
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First time I noticed this little tidbit. Started beating him in his face, in his nose hitting his head on the concrete.. then he continued to beat George... yet he admits his son was, "not given any medical attention."
 
sync0s

sync0s

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NoDrama said:
Key word right there.
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Can you actually give me reason why charges shouldn't be filed? You are only providing a basis of POSSIBLE defense for Zimmerman. Therefore admitting that charges should have been filed.

Remember guys. Burden of proof is on the accuser. When you are claiming self-defense: you are an accuser.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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NLXSK1 said:
And the eyewitness....

This thread would not be 200 pages + long if you didnt keep conveniently forgetting facts.
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eyewitnesses are not "facts", their testimony is counted as evidence, and is usually injected with enough reasonable doubt to make it worthless. eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable, especially when they are incomplete, contradicted by other accounts, and the police are "correcting" statements.

dumbass.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Carne Seca said:
First time I noticed this little tidbit. Started beating him in his face, in his nose hitting his head on the concrete.. then he continued to beat George... yet he admits his son was, "not given any medical attention."
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I would assume this means he didnt go to the hospital or a doctor.

It is pretty clear he was treated onsite by the fire department.
 
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cliffey501

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UncleBuck said:
god damn, they make them stupid in canada.

Moments before George Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin, the black 17-year-old had him pinned to the ground, was beating him and had threatened to kill him, his father told an Orlandotelevision station.Robert Zimmerman, 64, of Lake Mary, told WOFL-Channel 35 that his son shot Trayvon only after the Miami Gardens teenager knocked him down with a single punch that broke his nose, then got on top of him and kept punching.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-29/news/os-george-zimmerman-dad-interview-20120329_1_robert-zimmerman-son-shot-police-headquarters​
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Watch the actual video of the interview not an editorial on the interview.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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UncleBuck said:
eyewitnesses are not "facts", their testimony is counted as evidence, and is usually injected with enough reasonable doubt to make it worthless. eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable, especially when they are incomplete, contradicted by other accounts, and the police are "correcting" statements.

dumbass.
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Compared to the absolute lack of evidence you provide it appears airtight...
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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NLXSK1 said:
I would assume this means he didnt go to the hospital or a doctor.

It is pretty clear he was treated onsite by the fire department.
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With head injuries and a broken nose? He would have had a neck brace, immobilized and sent to the hospital. He wasn't treated because he wasn't hurt.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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NoDrama said:
Yeah, its not a federal crime so its not mandatory. But the prosecutor isn't dumb to take a loser of a case like this. Everyone just wants this to blow over, and it will just as soon as the media finds something else to sensationalize.
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the new prosecutor said she leans to the side of moving forward, generally.

don't you find it odd that the old prosecutor left his house on a sunday evening to meet with the now resigned police chief in person when these things are usually done by phone or fax?

don't you find it odd that the guy with the most information, the one whose job it is to sniff out bullshit, called zimemman's tale "unconvincing" and that it did not add up?
 
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