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cliffey501

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Carne Seca said:
Doesn't matter what you mean. It wasn't Stand Your Ground and he shouldn't be able to use that as a defense. That's why we need a trial. Either it was self-defense or it was murder.
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Ya I don't understand where that law even comes into play.

Zimmerman wasn't standing his ground.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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cliffey is in full on lie mode right now.

i guess he's trying to convince himself at this point, because it is well-established that not everyone stepped down, the police had identified trayvon martin in the police report while he was john doe at the morgue, etc etc etc.

cognitive dissonance is a bitch, ain't it cliffey?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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cliffey501 said:
OK Smartguy explain to me what you think a police report is? The only thing that cannot be changed are the statements in the narratives sections.I've already explained this to you in great detail.
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citation, please.

i don't trust braindead canucks.
 
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Parker

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UncleBuck said:
Previous incidents with racial issues

News reports noted that the police department of the city of Sanford has faced previous allegations of racial prejudice.[SUP][116][/SUP] In 2011, chief of police Brian Tooley was forced from office after declining to prosecute a police lieutenant's son for beating up a homeless black man, in an incident caught on video. After the footage went viral on YouTube, the perpetrator, Justin Collison, was arrested.[SUP][116][/SUP][SUP][117][/SUP][SUP][118][/SUP] The officer in charge of that case was also in charge of the Trayvon Martin shooting scene.[SUP][55][/SUP] In 2005, two parking lot security guards, one the son of a Sanford police department veteran and the other a volunteer for the department, shot a black teen, Travares McGill, in the back, killing him. The guards asserted self-defense, and the case was dismissed in court.[SUP][116][/SUP][SUP][119][/SUP] In February 2010, press reports indicated one officer was fired and another, Ned Golden Junior (son of the head of the local police union), was suspended for two weeks after sending sexist and racist text messages on a department computer.[SUP][120][/SUP][SUP][121][/SUP]
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based on this story no. It has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with protecting your own. A police lieutenants son. That tells you all you need to know. If the homeless person was white same thing imo.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Parker said:
based on this story no. It has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with protecting your own. A police lieutenants son. That tells you all you need to know. If the homeless person was white same thing imo.
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and ditto getting off the hook for shooting a teen in the back and claiming self defense, i guess.

i'm sure that you are aware that ties in law enforcement run deep. do you think it is possible that pappa zimmerman, the retired magistrate judge, knew wolfinger, the prosecutor who declined to prosecute after oddly leaving his home late on a sunday night to meet with the police chief and cut zimmerman loose?

do you suppose it's possible that wolfinger was protecting his buddie's son?
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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Parker said:
based on this story no. It has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with protecting your own. A police lieutenants son. That tells you all you need to know. If the homeless person was white same thing imo.
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Previous incidents with racial issues

News reports noted that the police department of the city of Sanford has faced previous allegations of racial prejudice.[SUP][116][/SUP] In 2011, chief of police Brian Tooley was forced from office after declining to prosecute a police lieutenant's son for beating up a homeless black man, in an incident caught on video. After the footage went viral on YouTube, the perpetrator, Justin Collison, was arrested.[SUP][116][/SUP][SUP][117][/SUP][SUP][118][/SUP] The officer in charge of that case was also in charge of the Trayvon Martin shooting scene.[SUP][55][/SUP] In 2005, two parking lot security guards, one the son of a Sanford police department veteran and the other a volunteer for the department, shot a black teen, Travares McGill, in the back, killing him. The guards asserted self-defense, and the case was dismissed in court.[SUP][116][/SUP][SUP][119][/SUP] In February 2010, press reports indicated one officer was fired and another, Ned Golden Junior (son of the head of the local police union), was suspended for two weeks after sending sexist and racist text messages on a department computer.[SUP][120][/SUP][SUP][121][/SUP]
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Yep. No racism here. None at all... nope.
 
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Parker

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UncleBuck said:
and ditto getting off the hook for shooting a teen in the back and claiming self defense, i guess.

i'm sure that you are aware that ties in law enforcement run deep. do you think it is possible that pappa zimmerman, the retired magistrate judge, knew wolfinger, the prosecutor who declined to prosecute after oddly leaving his home late on a sunday night to meet with the police chief and cut zimmerman loose?

do you suppose it's possible that wolfinger was protecting his buddie's son?
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Yep, maybe a bit closer to probable than possible
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Carne Seca said:
Yep. No racism here. None at all... nope.
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parker has a point, it could just be that they are protecting their own regardless of race of the victim.

however, the incidents in question are oddly all perpetrated against other races.

i can't wait until they find the inevitable link between pappa zimmerman and wolfinger. you just have to know it's coming.
 
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Parker

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Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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UncleBuck said:
parker has a point, it could just be that they are protecting their own regardless of race of the victim.

however, the incidents in question are oddly all perpetrated against other races.

i can't wait until they find the inevitable link between pappa zimmerman and wolfinger. you just have to know it's coming.
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Personally, with all the evidence and past departmental problems I feel that racism played a big part in what went down.
 
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