Thoughts? could be you next perhaps.

olias of sunhillow said:
If you have minor children and a marijuana grow going, IMHO you are not a parent, you are a person who got someone pregnant. But, I am not going to get involved in a trolling war with you. Anyone who chooses a grow over their children regardless of where they live or what the legality is, does not deserve their children. Next time wear a condom.
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Having children and growing medical marijuana are not mutually exclusive.

Can you elaborate on why the two should not happen under the same roof? I'm very curious about your thought process here.
 
As with everything else, it depends on the parents and the children. I think a good half of the parents should not have kids and of those there are only a percentage that can pull this off. But it is very very possible. To think a judge doesn't have cause for concern is foolishness, but like stated earlier, if their was a problem he would have been jumped and beaten by all those cops.
Titty bars are legal, having your children do their homework in room next to dressing room, not the best of parenting. If your kids are little assholes you are really limited on everything in life.
 
gladstoned said:
As with everything else, it depends on the parents and the children. I think a good half of the parents should not have kids and of those there are only a percentage that can pull this off. But it is very very possible. To think a judge doesn't have cause for concern is foolishness, but like stated earlier, if their was a problem he would have been jumped and beaten by all those cops.
Titty bars are legal, having your children do their homework in room next to dressing room, not the best of parenting. If your kids are little assholes you are really limited on everything in life.
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Well, if someone set up their grow in their 5 year old childs closet, then I would agree that's not the brightest of moves.

I have a good sized garden, and 3 children as well. The kids have no idea what's going on. The garden is completely enclosed, locked, and in an area of the house that we don't use (unfinished basement). All of my work is done in the garden after they go to bed, or before they get up. I don't think the kids are exposed to anything that I would consider "bad" (unless you think the smell of a flowering Kali Mist is bad for them).

I would not grow if I thought my kids would ever find out about it ..... not because I think they'd be scarred for life or anything like that. I would be more concerned that they would run their mouths to friends/teachers/neighbors and get us in unnecessary hot water.
 
st0wandgrow said:
Well, if someone set up their grow in their 5 year old childs closet, then I would agree that's not the brightest of moves.

I have a good sized garden, and 3 children as well. The kids have no idea what's going on. The garden is completely enclosed, locked, and in an area of the house that we don't use (unfinished basement). All of my work is done in the garden after they go to bed, or before they get up. I don't think the kids are exposed to anything that I would consider "bad" (unless you think the smell of a flowering Kali Mist is bad for them).

I would not grow if I thought my kids would ever find out about it ..... not because I think they'd be scarred for life or anything like that. I would be more concerned that they would run their mouths to friends/teachers/neighbors and get us in unnecessary hot water.
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There should be absolutely nothing wrong with that at all.
 
st0wandgrow said:
If I were faced with that option, I'd obviously stop growing.

BUT, if you're a good parent, and are not careless with your grow, I don't understand why someone would be forced to choose.
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I understand it, because you are the exception. Most parents cannot keep a piece of paper secret from their kids.
As far as were todays posts are. I think a felon should be a caregiver before someone with kids, but it all depends on the individual. It works both ways, some parents are hiding pot from their kids and their kids are simultaneously hiding their pot from their parents.
lmao. I wonder if there are any houses where the kids and parents are both growing, but they both don't know it. That would be funny.
 
You know I dont get where this turned to a choose your kids or grow question? If you had to choose of course you choose the kids.
My Michigan Medical Marijuana Law says the you are protected to grow with children in the home. They4 put that there because they
put it on the parent to be responsible in everything they do around their children. They know that you dont need someone telling
you how to raise your children. Now if you are not doing it responsible that is a whole different story. CPS should not be holding that
against someone. Like I said if you had to choose then you choose your kids but you should NOT have to choose on growing or
being a patient alone. Each situation is different and can be handled in very responsible ways. For anyone to say a parent simply should not grow because they are a parent is rediculous. I am sure the original thought is why should he have to choose not what he should choose.
 
ozzrokk said:
You know I dont get where this turned to a choose your kids or grow question? If you had to choose of course you choose the kids.
My Michigan Medical Marijuana Law says the you are protected to grow with children in the home. They4 put that there because they
put it on the parent to be responsible in everything they do around their children. They know that you dont need someone telling
you how to raise your children. Now if you are not doing it responsible that is a whole different story. CPS should not be holding that
against someone. Like I said if you had to choose then you choose your kids but you should NOT have to choose on growing or
being a patient alone. Each situation is different and can be handled in very responsible ways. For anyone to say a parent simply should not grow because they are a parent is rediculous. I am sure the original thought is why should he have to choose not what he should choose.
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We have to choose because we are adults. Life is all about choices. Situations arise, tough choices abound for everyone. Adults make the best decision that they can, then move on with life. Children yell "it's not fair".....the difference being that adults, though they know it's not fair, realize the situation isn't going to change right now, so they make a decision and move on.
 
bob harris said:
We have to choose because we are adults. Life is all about choices. Situations arise, tough choices abound for everyone. Adults make the best decision that they can, then move on with life. Children yell "it's not fair".....the difference being that adults, though they know it's not fair, realize the situation isn't going to change right now, so they make a decision and move on.
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Thought I told you to stay out of my posts. I know that is the system working. I get your stance on everything. You think that is the system working if they say that someone cannot grow marijuana and have children, but that does not make it right. IT DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT. If there is a different REAL reason that is different. But for marijuana alone IT IS NOT RIGHT. GET IT? Thats it if you HAVE to make a choice then of course you choose your KIDS. But YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TO MAKE THAT CHOICE ON THAT ALONE. That is not the system working.

Now stay the fuck out of my posts.
 
ozzrokk said:
Thought I told you to stay out of my posts. I know that is the system working. I get your stance on everything. You think that is the system working if they say that someone cannot grow marijuana and have children, but that does not make it right. IT DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT. If there is a different REAL reason that is different. But for marijuana alone IT IS NOT RIGHT. GET IT? Thats it if you HAVE to make a choice then of course you choose your KIDS. But YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TO MAKE THAT CHOICE ON THAT ALONE. That is not the system working.

Now stay the fuck out of my posts.
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So..you have the authority to deny MY RIGHT to respond to you? Wow..thought you were for rights. Sorry, didn't know that my right to free speech was yours to control. NOW THAT'S NOT RIGHT
 
bob harris said:
So..you have the authority to deny MY RIGHT to respond to you? Wow..thought you were for rights. Sorry, didn't know that my right to free speech was yours to control. NOW THAT'S NOT RIGHT
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Just look at OddRock's avatar, if he doesn't want "you" to comment on his crap, I would oblige. He looks like some emo warlock dude that would send a bunch of pussy ass hate energy in your direction and lord knows I don't want that for you. So stay out of his posts ... lol
 
ChronicObsession said:
Just look at OddRock's avatar, if he doesn't want "you" to comment on his crap, I would oblige. He looks like some emo warlock dude that would send a bunch of pussy ass hate energy in your direction and lord knows I don't want that for you. So stay out of his posts ... lol
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Yeah..I'm full of fear....lol
 
(c) A person shall not be denied custody or visitation of a minor for acting in accordance with this act, unless the person's behavior is such that it creates an unreasonable danger to the minor that can be clearly articulated and substantiated.

Ya know..this guy DOES have some legal ground to stand on....After reading the law again and finding this under section 4, I'd say the judge IS out of line, and this guy should grt both, and not have to make a choice.
 
st0wandgrow said:
Having children and growing medical marijuana are not mutually exclusive.

Can you elaborate on why the two should not happen under the same roof? I'm very curious about your thought process here.
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Thank you for a reasonably written response rather than another troll attack.

After some consideration, I find you are correct. A person who grows cannabis legally for personal use or as a medicine for people in need is indeed NOT automatically a bad parent. I retract that part of my statement. HOWEVER, my main point was, right or wrong if someone is faced with deciding to grow pot or loose their children and decides in the garden's favor is not a parent. It is questionable to me that they are even a human being.

The person the OP was about seems to be a sound, caring, and good parent. Do I think it is right that is forced to make the choiuce in question? No, of course not. Just another case of ignorance from a government agency. But since he HAS to choose, if he does not choose his children, he should loose them.
 
bob harris said:
(c) A person shall not be denied custody or visitation of a minor for acting in accordance with this act, unless the person's behavior is such that it creates an unreasonable danger to the minor that can be clearly articulated and substantiated.

Ya know..this guy DOES have some legal ground to stand on....After reading the law again and finding this under section 4, I'd say the judge IS out of line, and this guy should grt both, and not have to make a choice.
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G bob. you think?
Welcome to the SELF EDUCATOIN WORLD. You wont learn this from your Nanny govenrment.

I have to disagree Olias. If he was brewing his own alcohol, and was drunk 24/7, you know as well as I, this would be a non issue.


Now, I agree. as a parent your choice is to teach your children to be good human. how to deal with other humans. how to be responsible, and self sufficient, and have integrity.

Their is Non of that when your choices are made for you. Fact is, as we all know, cannabis is harmless. you cant eat it and die, you cant touch it and it cant go off putting a bullet in your head. you cant look at it and go insane.


Would i choose cannabis over my daughter? absolutely not, but that doesnt change the fact I should never have to be put into that position.


what if we were not here over cannabis. what if it was Tomatoes. SO everywhere you see Marihuana(j) or cannabis, replace the word with tomotoe. Hell replace it with the word Oxycotin or even Viagra? how much sence does it make than?

we re not talking about personal wmds. its cannabis for gods sake.
 
Timmahh said:
G bob. you think?
Welcome to the SELF EDUCATOIN WORLD. You wont learn this from your Nanny govenrment.

I have to disagree Olias. If he was brewing his own alcohol, and was drunk 24/7, you know as well as I, this would be a non issue.


Now, I agree. as a parent your choice is to teach your children to be good human. how to deal with other humans. how to be responsible, and self sufficient, and have integrity.

Their is Non of that when your choices are made for you. Fact is, as we all know, cannabis is harmless. you cant eat it and die, you cant touch it and it cant go off putting a bullet in your head. you cant look at it and go insane.


Would i choose cannabis over my daughter? absolutely not, but that doesnt change the fact I should never have to be put into that position.


what if we were not here over cannabis. what if it was Tomatoes. SO everywhere you see Marihuana(j) or cannabis, replace the word with tomotoe. Hell replace it with the word Oxycotin or even Viagra? how much sence does it make than?

we re not talking about personal wmds. its cannabis for gods sake.
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So..why didn't YOU cite the law that backed him....would have made the original post much different. Timmahh..my only problem with yo, is you never suggest solutions..or offer help.

Or were you just waiting to see if someone else would review the law for the guy?

Had you cited the law in your original post, the entire conversation of this thread would have been different.
 
olias of sunhillow said:
Thank you for a reasonably written response rather than another troll attack.

After some consideration, I find you are correct. A person who grows cannabis legally for personal use or as a medicine for people in need is indeed NOT automatically a bad parent. I retract that part of my statement. HOWEVER, my main point was, right or wrong if someone is faced with deciding to grow pot or loose their children and decides in the garden's favor is not a parent. It is questionable to me that they are even a human being.

The person the OP was about seems to be a sound, caring, and good parent. Do I think it is right that is forced to make the choiuce in question? No, of course not. Just another case of ignorance from a government agency. But since he HAS to choose, if he does not choose his children, he should loose them.
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Fair enough. I agree with what you're saying.

Thanks for clarifying.
 
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