Harrekin
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The irony of calling someone a racist and a racist term at the same time is just hilarious...too many noobs around here these days.
trayvan martin
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This is "clear" ??? LMAO have any idea how many Specialists have been asked to clean up the shitty audio?
If you think that's clear, why then mud must be translucent.
desert dude
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Uh, it isn't so clear. Even the CNN audio expert says it is not clear. I listened to it and I can't tell what he is saying, it doesn't sound like "coon" or "goon" or "punk", it just sounds like a grunt to me.
That's the best you got?
The reason for the story was to illustrate how SENSITIVE some folks can be over the race issue. After I explained myself to those Marines and they explained themselves to me, we became friends and had a good time on many occasions.
Carne Seca
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Exactly my point. He has a history of violence. Not hearsay, it's in the police records. DWI arrests, DWI class, Assault arrests, Anger management class, Restraining orders for physically assaulting a girlfriend, blaming the girlfriend for the assault. This guy is a real winner. His background alone (which they didn't check but they damn sure checked the black kid's background) should have led not only to an investigation and arrest but to drug testing him (which was done on Trayvon). He has a history of substance abuse. Yet he left the police station with his gun that same night.
desert dude
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Yeah, Zimmerman is an asshole, I won't dispute that.
You think it's only black folks who are up in arms about this? Stereotype much?
londonfog
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Like I said before "Birds of a feather..Flock together.... losers defend losers.
Carne Seca
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Good job hypocrite. What's good for the goose ISN'T good for the gander? What does your anecdotal bullshit have to do with the Martin case?
Carne Seca
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And they tend to clutch at any little thing you say and try to turn that into an argument. Like ND is doing right now.
Logic fail?
What's good for the goose ISN'T good for the gander? What does your anecdotal bullshit have to do with the Martin case?
SOME people can be REALLY sensitive to issues that other people are not even aware of. Sorry if I didn't explain it well enough for you.
KrAzEo
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OK. I have to say some things because of all the inexperienced and uneducated comments.
The recent racism towards blacks comes against lower and lower middle classes. Within these classes many people (including blacks and whites - who are on the a pretty level playing field) act very cocky, offensive, and arrogant. It is a subcultural thing shared by many disadvantaged people (including whites, yes there are many disadvantaged whites raised much the same exact way as the blacks who become disadvantaged - i think fatherlessness plays much more a role than color and is rampant in black communities and more and more white families). This is from experience as I am a young white man who grow up fatherless and gutter and had 0 white friends for many years because I just didn't relate to "normal" white culture.
Although there are many more total poor whites in this country, there is a greater percentage of the total black community making up this demographic. This is were we derive stereotypes and associate hate we recieve from a few experience (media doesn't help) and associate with the majority...of the minority. We naturally assign categories to not spend so much time rethinking things. This happens more by percentages than totals. Many whites hate the poor whites too but people can't pull the race card and are instead labeled lazy roudy problematic "white trash". It is easier for people to categories by a color and dress style than by backgrounds and facts.
There are many more ignorant reasons of racism but I think the rich just fear and therefore hate the poor (lets face it we do some fd up shit to people to be "down", etc. when younger).
Whites in the north are extra nice to minorities in school, growing up, etc. and many of the blacks (not all by any means) abuse this kindness as a weakness. This angers some of their white peers. Up here I don't really see whites abusing kindness of blacks. That's one thing blacks need to work on. Whites need also work on their shit too. Try pretending we are all the same species (cause we are) and blacks too. I think both sides are ignorant and are playing the "I'm not gonna stop until they stop" GAME. Racism is childish. If there are poor groups blame structure of society built by the rich to keep us down.
AND to add to the threads topics - FACT: Zimmerman is Hispanic. - Not Caucasian. Again ignorance.
Oh. And please don't call me a "n%@#$@ lover". I love no race more than the other. I have white pride (just like brown pride, native pride, black pride, etc.) but not he kind this country has grown in ignorance. White pride should not = superiority. I have white pride not "American white pride" - they have no pity for any "non-rich" people and families regardless of race.
The recent racism towards blacks comes against lower and lower middle classes. Within these classes many people (including blacks and whites - who are on the a pretty level playing field) act very cocky, offensive, and arrogant. It is a subcultural thing shared by many disadvantaged people (including whites, yes there are many disadvantaged whites raised much the same exact way as the blacks who become disadvantaged - i think fatherlessness plays much more a role than color and is rampant in black communities and more and more white families). This is from experience as I am a young white man who grow up fatherless and gutter and had 0 white friends for many years because I just didn't relate to "normal" white culture.
Although there are many more total poor whites in this country, there is a greater percentage of the total black community making up this demographic. This is were we derive stereotypes and associate hate we recieve from a few experience (media doesn't help) and associate with the majority...of the minority. We naturally assign categories to not spend so much time rethinking things. This happens more by percentages than totals. Many whites hate the poor whites too but people can't pull the race card and are instead labeled lazy roudy problematic "white trash". It is easier for people to categories by a color and dress style than by backgrounds and facts.
There are many more ignorant reasons of racism but I think the rich just fear and therefore hate the poor (lets face it we do some fd up shit to people to be "down", etc. when younger).
Whites in the north are extra nice to minorities in school, growing up, etc. and many of the blacks (not all by any means) abuse this kindness as a weakness. This angers some of their white peers. Up here I don't really see whites abusing kindness of blacks. That's one thing blacks need to work on. Whites need also work on their shit too. Try pretending we are all the same species (cause we are) and blacks too. I think both sides are ignorant and are playing the "I'm not gonna stop until they stop" GAME. Racism is childish. If there are poor groups blame structure of society built by the rich to keep us down.
AND to add to the threads topics - FACT: Zimmerman is Hispanic. - Not Caucasian. Again ignorance.
Oh. And please don't call me a "n%@#$@ lover". I love no race more than the other. I have white pride (just like brown pride, native pride, black pride, etc.) but not he kind this country has grown in ignorance. White pride should not = superiority. I have white pride not "American white pride" - they have no pity for any "non-rich" people and families regardless of race.
no, when you say he was "TOLD" not to follow, other people get the impression that he was commanded by someone of authority to not follow. This isn't the case, he wasn't ordered to do shit, and the guy on the other end doesn't have any authority and shouldn't, they have NO CLUE what the situation is like. These little so called "Semantics" make a HUGE difference in how people perceive the REAL facts of a case. We have to use REAL facts when trying people for a crime, using hearsay/lies/assumptions is morally reprehensible.
If Zimmerman had been talking to a police officer and the officer "commanded Zimmerman to stay in his vehicle, then I would be 100% on your side, but that didn't happen.
Awesome you accuse nodrama of being racist then use the racist insult, cracker. Gotta love the irony.
desert dude
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Yeah, that's a keeper all right.
Harrekin
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Hey I spotted that first, you're a racist!
desert dude
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I would love for this discussion to take place in person with minorities present and see if nodrama had the balls to say half the shit he does. I want him to look everyone in the eye and say that shit to their face. In fact go in to work tomorrow and say it. Their is a reason those Black Marines bristled at your remark. If the shoe fits...
haha, you know what would happen? Not a goddamned thing.