they have cool stuff, very inspiring, i need to buy a torch so i can make all the ground glass shit.. I FUCKING LOVE the ridiculous, tedious, annealing flame, pin flame, annealing flame, kiln, annealing flame, pin flame, and repeat scientific apparatus shit. and i dont just close my tubes off, i make an implosion in the bottom so when your looking down you see a fucking galaxy. the prices they're charging are what id need to buy a cc+, and a case of glass, 3lbs of color, silver, and gold. then i could sell a bunch of shit to you guys for the same price id sell it to auqalab, chameleon or the gaspipe. (who mark up 300%) ((seriously)) i just cant ever bring myself to pay retail for something i can actually make. extraction devices should be 150-400$ unless its a full color 40 section re-ball with alientec, dichro bridges and an opal the size of matts last run of plushberry wax should a piece ever be nearing 1k$. its just robbery and a slap in the artists face who sold 10 of them for 100 a pop.