PLEASE HELP!!! My ladies are DYING!!!

PersonalJesus

PersonalJesus

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I am 99% positive my problem is the dreaded ROOT ROT... I am on my 1st hydro grow, I am using a combo top-feed/DWC system. My res temps are good as are the temps in my enclosed cabinet. I am now seeing the thick black slime in the middle of my root mass under the net cups.
I REALLY need to save my ladies, but there is one problem... I HAVE NO MONEY! Please do not post things like "go brew the tea" and "go buy such and such"... All my money is already in this grow. What I got is what I got and I gotta make it work!
Here is what I got... 3% h2o2 and AquaSheild... I have already added 4 tsp. of h2o2 to my 4 1/2 gallon res yesterday. The problem has only gotten worse.
I do not have alot of nutes left, I cannot do 60 res changes in the next 2 weeks to try to fix this.
My plants are only 9 inches tall and the middle set of fan leaves has begun to droop down. I don't know how much longer they will last, thats why I gotta fix this like yesterday.

I've never dealt with this before... please tell me step by step what to do
do I remove any roots?
do I do an emergency root dip in h2o2? what strength of solution?
AquaSheild and h2o2 together or separately or do one then the other? frequency and strength?
Anything I'm missing?
Suggestions to prevent this from returning?

PLEASE HELP!!! Thank you for any and all advice/suggestions... Good Karma to all!
 
Jack Harer

Jack Harer

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Stop growing until you can effectively provide for the plants? Just a thought. Also, it's damn near immpossible to diagnose or help rectify a prob with out the aid of pics at the very least!
 
PersonalJesus

PersonalJesus

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Jack Harer said:
Stop growing until you can effectively provide for the plants? Just a thought. Also, it's damn near immpossible to diagnose or help rectify a prob with out the aid of pics at the very least!
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Wow dude... You should stop posting unless you can provide some insight... Just a thought. Dick.

You need pics of root rot? I know its root rot. All the soil grows I've done, I've never had this problem. This is my first hydro grow and I need some help and what do you say?
I should stop growing? Is that your advice to everyone?
 
PersonalJesus

PersonalJesus

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canniboss said:
I bet you don't have an airpump.
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You moron... ofcourse I have an airpump, and its connected to 2 airstones, thank you very much.

Is anyone gonna post some useful information? I could really use some help here, not posts from people who are a pure waste of space.
 
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sixriversfarming

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I have a felling you have a fungal infection, probably Fusarium oxysporum, it's very common and hard to get rid of if not impossible. It is usually a soil issue but it can affect plants in hydro too. It could kill your whole round if it is warm and you have any anaerobic(w/out enough oxygen) conditions. You need to keep conditions right(water exactly 68 degree's holds the most oxygen) so bad things stay away and add beneficial micro-life and the will out compete the bad stuff. You have to think about it on a micro level and understand your plants have things living on and in them, there own micro ecosystems. One can/should use a biological fungicide called Mycostop, it has a bacteria streptomyces that attacks the fusarium. Then add a product with glomus(beneficial fungi spores) and bacillus subtilis(beneficial bacteria) like Orca which is a liquid mycorrhiza. I'm not exactly sure how these applications work for dwc. I know a few hydro growers who use beneficial micro life but they do not use nutrients with EDTA a chelating agent that kills you micro life. When you have no micro life the bad stuff will come and take over if there isn't anything there to compete for the space to life(basic biology). Good look man, hope this kinda helps you.
 
bowlfullofbliss

bowlfullofbliss

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I hope you don't expect to get much respect here posting that you need help, know the problem, but demand answers that don't include money, then be a jerk to one of the nicest and knowledgable (sp?) guys on here. Jack knows his shit, and you just made sure he won't help you.

Very rude indeed.
 
cody2689

cody2689

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You seem intelligent but i gotta throw it out there... Its a dwc im assuming so you made sure your bucket is not clear right?
 
PersonalJesus

PersonalJesus

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Absolutely... not clear, Black...

@BowlFullOfBliss... As far as for me not "not getting much respect", apparently, from Jack Harer, I won't get any help either. Read his post again... I should stop growing? why? Because I sunk all my money into this grow and I don't have an endless bank account? Whatever. If you had a problem, and were in my unfortunate situation of being FLAT BROKE, and someones advice to you was to stop growing, just because you're broke (and no other reason, apparently) you would react the same...
And I didn't demand anything... I only asked to not have a bunch of posts suggesting I run out and buy this and that, because I am BROKE. I don't want my ladies to die so I want to fix them as best as possible with what I have on hand... What is so wrong about that?

@JackHarer... If I offended you, I am sorry. That was not my intention, not at all. I appreciate any help, but telling me to stop growing is not very helpful. I don't want anyone thinking I'm an a-hole, and I prolly shouldn't of called you or anyone else a dick. I apologize for that too... I'm frustrated as hell and don't wanna lose my crop.

Any friends of Jack, feel free to pass that along.
 
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Randm

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H202, hydrogen peroxide will kill the rot, you can get a 29% solution at you hydro store for less than 20.00. I'm not sure of the strength you need but I heard that 5 ml per gal for the initial treatment. I grow in soil and was talking to my hydro gal today about dealing with just this issue and that was her recomendation. She is a grower as well as a hydro store employee and probebly the most knowledgable person I know about dealing with growing problems
 
canniboss

canniboss

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I hope they all die. In fact I hope you never have a successful grow period. Broke motherfucking dumbshit.
 
sudodaemon

sudodaemon

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I'm still a new grower, but here are my two cents... I've had root rot before, and if you have any slime on your roots, that's probably what it is... I've heard of h2o2 being used successfully, and unsuccessfully... Either way, this is what you need to think about... Even if you were to get rid of the root rot now, you need to solve what is causing it, and that is unfortunately going to cost money... First time I lost to root rot, no matter what I did it didn't help... My problem was the res temps... they were in the low 80's... I now have a plant growing successfully in a DWC because my res temps are good, I have plenty of dissoled oxygen being supplied to the plants, etc... Also, somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but have TWO air stones connected to ONE pump does nothing different that one airstone and one air pump, regardless of the number of stones you have, it's only pumping out so much air and splitting it two two air stones would only split the distribution in hald rather than doubling it... In my 5 gallon DWC bucket I have 3 air pumps with an air stone connected to each, as well as a water pump that pumps the water out of my dwc and back in on the other side to help spread things out evenly and just provide water circulation. Good luck with this, but I think its a goner... Unless you can provide pics and we all say it's not root rot...
 
bird mcbride

bird mcbride

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Like us plants secrete waste. It is heavier than the res water so it goes to the bottom of your res. I raise pumps, air stones and drains to avoid this waste from being recirculated back to my plants.
 
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