Timmahh
Well-Known Member
it late, im a bit tired now, so im going to try to catch four hours or so. but i put this in one of the other threads, but it really deserves its own. I have more info to post up, like a Michigan Supreme Court ruling that indicates how a Peoples initiative is SUPPOSED to be interpreted. It clearly defines how the words of that Peoples Initiative are supposed to be generally understood by ALL bodies of government that may need to read and perhaps make rulings from the initiative. This is where our current SC from what i see is coming from, and why I am confident, they will uphold the Act, As we the people passed it in 2008. When you read it as a simple living document, and read the words with a very black and white mindset, giving each word the most general understanding of any definition of the words used in the Act, as would be understood per the Body of Government (which in this case, is the Citizens) that Ratifies the Initiative to Law, and in this case, to the State of Michigan Constitution. That simply means any word of the act must be given the most basic understanding of the words used, thus the most basic understanding the Citizens of the State would give to the words used like Bona Fide. Once I get and post the SC ruling, 1967, Kraft Foods Vs The State of Michigan i think it was, this top paragraph will come together, then take that SC decision, and please immediately after reading it, go and re read the 08 MMM Act, with that mindset and see if it in not fundamentally, a well written law. Yes, im not blind, a few minor glitches, but NOTHING to cause the current clusterfuck we have going on here in my beloved Birth State.
http://www.michigan.gov/lara/0,4601,7-154-27417_28150_51869---,00.html
BS/RS and the new republican guard take office. Up until now, most things were running pretty good. Yes there were some criminals, show me a occupation with out any. fact is you can not. even the Holiest Temple of Christianty, the Roman Church, is rife with filth and child molesting sick motherfuckers that do not deserve to breath for the atrocities they committed upon innocent children. Criminals are criminals, and like good people, they come from ALL walks of life, and in all corners of the earth.
but BS and RS come in, and all hell breaks loose. Violations are made in moving authority from MDCH, to LARA, which was not legally done. the fact that the Legislation has to make and ratify and amendment to reflect that change in the act, while the MDCH is still an active, functioning state body, is the very proof of it.
the money sent in, which was supposed to reside with the MDCH/MMM Program, was illegally moved to the State general fund, no longer in the MMMP department as was originallyto be done, to easily and immediately fund any administrative needs like hiring of personal to keep up with demand, or to purchase equipment as needed or as old equipment they were given to use failed. (new Printers ect) Then enter BS on the pubic specticle (TV) stating how we the people were too stupid to understand what we voted for. That the people of Michigan only meant for those near death, or those that were house bound and near dead to use cannabis and only an end of life treatment. ie, last 3 months before you die.
The republican guard need to cover the govs ass here. Yes he can make administrative changes that fundamentally restructures the State government, but he can not make changes of the nature like the MMM Act, which require very limited, and specific things to be done to a people initiated law, which is what the MMM Act is. The governor does not have the power, atleast here in Michigan, to just take a people initiative, and re write it, nor can he, or anyone in the state, many any fundamental changes to a people initiative. Changing the Department in which the MMMA resides, is a fundamental change, just as redirecting the funding (our cert and re cert/ cg fees) away from the program, to the States General fund is a fundamental change, thus Illegal. It takes a 3/4 super majority to make ANY fundamental change like our dear new gov did with these two (oh those are just simple administrative ) changes. Restructuring the way 70% of the States government works is not administrative in nature, it is Fundamental.
Now lets move on to Mr. Schuette, or Bull Schuitte as he is becoming better known as.
Read his Opine of what he MANDATES, WE the People Meant when we said yes by 63% to medical cannabis.
Have you read that opine ? Its a Dandy> I just linked it to Huckleberry about an hr or 3 ago. He may still be going through it. You literally need to pick your jaw up after about ever 2nd line in it.
if you havn't curled up with a good sci fi book lately, then this is a great one to read in the dark of night.
Its a lovely story were we all go to jail or die, and only a few weeks, perhaps a couple months before we are dead, we can maybe then go on a wild goose hunt with no advertising allowed by CG, to find a CG, submit paperwork to assign that CG as your caregiver, and get authorized after waiting 21 days to get your card, Just so the CG can START to grow your meds. Because they cant supply YOU meds from somebody elses plants. So that means you as a dying patient with maybe 3 months to live, you must wait for the CG to plant, grow, harvest, dry, and process your medicine for you before you can actually use it. If you more luckly than my 2 sister, you may get to smoke a joint just before you get that last good night morphene patch on. and bob, im not fear mongering here, If you can find Huckleberry, and you can pick him up off the floor, or you may need to go out and find him, because after reading Bill Schuette's Clearing the Air Seminars, he may be a tad miffed. Or at least, I expect him to be after reading that sick tyrannical drivel our state AG wrote... Now on these "Clearing the Air Seminars Mr Schuette held 4 of last year. You did hear about them didn't you. These were government meetings, with only government employees and legislators, senators, LEO and member of PAM (Prosecutors Association of Michigan) that initially were supposed to be held behind closed doors, even though they were supposed to be public open door meetings. There are Emails that prove this, and I Believe that info is in the opening pages of the pdf i linked below. Only when it was leaked to a couple local news agencies, did Mr Schuette and the AG office, publically state they were in fact haveing Meetings on how to address the MMM Law, where in fact the only information given was how to arrest Patients and Caregivers, and how to effectively kill medical cannabis in the community by prosecuting every person found to have cannabis, with or with out a registration card with the MMMP. They out lined how to close legal dispensaries and get the legal parameters to close them under the PHC, as a public nuisance, not under any criminal activity where these cases would be heard in Circut Court, instead of Civil Court. Don't you find it interesting BS and others are using a civil court to close what is said to be a criminal enterprise? why have multiple dispensaries stay open, as well as at least four separately mainained farmers market around the state operating even today?
Maybe if you read it yourself, some of you may understand my level of mistrust of our government, over all frustration over this, and many other current situations. Hell you may even stand beside me screaming at the top of your lungs with me bob. That is unless my jeers of you being LEO or a BS plant are not unfounded. Because there really is no way for a True Michigander, let alone a true american could read that shit and say, OH YES, this is our savior, we need BS to be all he can be....
i ll tell you all the same thing I told Huck in a PM, word for word. except i ll add some may need a barf bucket.
If after reading this, your not at least pissed off, i can have no remorse for you.
http://www.michigan.gov/lara/0,4601,7-154-27417_28150_51869---,00.html
BS/RS and the new republican guard take office. Up until now, most things were running pretty good. Yes there were some criminals, show me a occupation with out any. fact is you can not. even the Holiest Temple of Christianty, the Roman Church, is rife with filth and child molesting sick motherfuckers that do not deserve to breath for the atrocities they committed upon innocent children. Criminals are criminals, and like good people, they come from ALL walks of life, and in all corners of the earth.
but BS and RS come in, and all hell breaks loose. Violations are made in moving authority from MDCH, to LARA, which was not legally done. the fact that the Legislation has to make and ratify and amendment to reflect that change in the act, while the MDCH is still an active, functioning state body, is the very proof of it.
the money sent in, which was supposed to reside with the MDCH/MMM Program, was illegally moved to the State general fund, no longer in the MMMP department as was originallyto be done, to easily and immediately fund any administrative needs like hiring of personal to keep up with demand, or to purchase equipment as needed or as old equipment they were given to use failed. (new Printers ect) Then enter BS on the pubic specticle (TV) stating how we the people were too stupid to understand what we voted for. That the people of Michigan only meant for those near death, or those that were house bound and near dead to use cannabis and only an end of life treatment. ie, last 3 months before you die.
The republican guard need to cover the govs ass here. Yes he can make administrative changes that fundamentally restructures the State government, but he can not make changes of the nature like the MMM Act, which require very limited, and specific things to be done to a people initiated law, which is what the MMM Act is. The governor does not have the power, atleast here in Michigan, to just take a people initiative, and re write it, nor can he, or anyone in the state, many any fundamental changes to a people initiative. Changing the Department in which the MMMA resides, is a fundamental change, just as redirecting the funding (our cert and re cert/ cg fees) away from the program, to the States General fund is a fundamental change, thus Illegal. It takes a 3/4 super majority to make ANY fundamental change like our dear new gov did with these two (oh those are just simple administrative ) changes. Restructuring the way 70% of the States government works is not administrative in nature, it is Fundamental.
Now lets move on to Mr. Schuette, or Bull Schuitte as he is becoming better known as.
Read his Opine of what he MANDATES, WE the People Meant when we said yes by 63% to medical cannabis.
Have you read that opine ? Its a Dandy> I just linked it to Huckleberry about an hr or 3 ago. He may still be going through it. You literally need to pick your jaw up after about ever 2nd line in it.
if you havn't curled up with a good sci fi book lately, then this is a great one to read in the dark of night.
Its a lovely story were we all go to jail or die, and only a few weeks, perhaps a couple months before we are dead, we can maybe then go on a wild goose hunt with no advertising allowed by CG, to find a CG, submit paperwork to assign that CG as your caregiver, and get authorized after waiting 21 days to get your card, Just so the CG can START to grow your meds. Because they cant supply YOU meds from somebody elses plants. So that means you as a dying patient with maybe 3 months to live, you must wait for the CG to plant, grow, harvest, dry, and process your medicine for you before you can actually use it. If you more luckly than my 2 sister, you may get to smoke a joint just before you get that last good night morphene patch on. and bob, im not fear mongering here, If you can find Huckleberry, and you can pick him up off the floor, or you may need to go out and find him, because after reading Bill Schuette's Clearing the Air Seminars, he may be a tad miffed. Or at least, I expect him to be after reading that sick tyrannical drivel our state AG wrote... Now on these "Clearing the Air Seminars Mr Schuette held 4 of last year. You did hear about them didn't you. These were government meetings, with only government employees and legislators, senators, LEO and member of PAM (Prosecutors Association of Michigan) that initially were supposed to be held behind closed doors, even though they were supposed to be public open door meetings. There are Emails that prove this, and I Believe that info is in the opening pages of the pdf i linked below. Only when it was leaked to a couple local news agencies, did Mr Schuette and the AG office, publically state they were in fact haveing Meetings on how to address the MMM Law, where in fact the only information given was how to arrest Patients and Caregivers, and how to effectively kill medical cannabis in the community by prosecuting every person found to have cannabis, with or with out a registration card with the MMMP. They out lined how to close legal dispensaries and get the legal parameters to close them under the PHC, as a public nuisance, not under any criminal activity where these cases would be heard in Circut Court, instead of Civil Court. Don't you find it interesting BS and others are using a civil court to close what is said to be a criminal enterprise? why have multiple dispensaries stay open, as well as at least four separately mainained farmers market around the state operating even today?
Maybe if you read it yourself, some of you may understand my level of mistrust of our government, over all frustration over this, and many other current situations. Hell you may even stand beside me screaming at the top of your lungs with me bob. That is unless my jeers of you being LEO or a BS plant are not unfounded. Because there really is no way for a True Michigander, let alone a true american could read that shit and say, OH YES, this is our savior, we need BS to be all he can be....
i ll tell you all the same thing I told Huck in a PM, word for word. except i ll add some may need a barf bucket.
If after reading this, your not at least pissed off, i can have no remorse for you.
but if it's good enough for pain killers it's good enough for cannabis.
