budlover13
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The problem is, the "available evidence" is so damn slanted/tainted towards one side or the other based on where one receives the "evidence" from.
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trayvan martin
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UncleBuck
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tell that to zimmerman, wolfinger, pappa zimmemran, martin's family, etc....
there are still marches and demonstrations going on over here all the time.
UncleBuck
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so, i just got high and had a thought.
if this is a gash, it should be in the same place as he moves around. a shadow would move as he moves around.
so, why are we not seeing different stills, all digitized, so we can compare the "it's a shadow" theory vis a vis the "it's a gash" theory?
and if the media is supposedly sensationalizing this as a racial case, why have i heard almost nothing from the MSM about zimmerman's violent history (and getting off the hook for it) while i hear nearly every article seems to mention martin's empty bag with marijuana residue?
fuck, i had way more than empty bags at his age.
if this is a gash, it should be in the same place as he moves around. a shadow would move as he moves around.
so, why are we not seeing different stills, all digitized, so we can compare the "it's a shadow" theory vis a vis the "it's a gash" theory?
and if the media is supposedly sensationalizing this as a racial case, why have i heard almost nothing from the MSM about zimmerman's violent history (and getting off the hook for it) while i hear nearly every article seems to mention martin's empty bag with marijuana residue?
fuck, i had way more than empty bags at his age.
Kush70
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that tells me someone spends wayyyyyyyyyyy too much time on the internet...
NLXSK1
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Yeah, it is like those Ron Paul conventions...
Bunch of people with totally unrealistic expectations...
really comfy slippers
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The voice of the people? Pshhh What is that shit
Kush70
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so right !
Farfenugen
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Spike Lee and Tyler Perry are going to make a movement out of this, I just bet ya!
really comfy slippers
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So because your television isn't spewing it out it's irrelevant? You will Perish
beardo
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theounceler
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How sad people let the media dictate what they "care" about. I think this is still an important case, and since its not being carried on every news station now means we should talk about it more. Everyone loses when an injustice like this happens. I don't think these people have "unrealistic expectations" they just want a simple arrest. Peace rallies and demonstrations are a great way for the people to make their voices heard.
I live in Florida, and the Gun Laws here are the most liberal in the country. The shooter was on neighborhood watch, and he carried his legally owned and registered firearm with him. He also had a permit to carry that firearm concealed, as per Florida Law. He was a wannabe cop, and had called 911 over 50 times in the last year. He called to report a "Suspicious Black Male" in his gated community. He was asked by the 911 dispatcher if he was following the "suspect", and when Zimmerman told them "Yes", they told him NOT to do that. He is guilty of being an asshole with a gun, and should do jail time for manslaughter at the very least. A local resident saw the two men struggling on the ground, which does bolster Zimmerman's story a bit, but this is a case of an over-zealous gun owner trying to be a big guy. The CCL permit is for self defense, nothing else. If you follow a guy around, and he confronts you, he is in the right by doing so, because he is the one being followed. If he tells you to stop, and you are in a public area, you can follow him all day long, legally, as two people can walk the same direction, as long as one is not bothering the other. But if he attacks you for following him, you are allowed to defend yourself. You DO NOT HAVE TO FLEE from your aggressor in the state of Florida.
So, the shooter was an asshole who shot a young man who had confronted the shooter with violence for following him. The LE officials are digging into this scenario to see if they can get a conviction. If they ask for too much, like First Degree murder, then under Florida Law they would have to acquit. Second degree murder, not very likely. Manslaughter would be the best chance of getting a conviction to stick. We don't want to see another Casey Anthony miscarriage of justice in Florida....
Padawanbater2
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What's the actual law say? Heard someone make a point it's called "Stand Your Ground" and Zimmerman kept actually following Martin, it wasn't "standing his ground", he was in fact escalating the situation by following. Following and standing are two totally different things, which would render that defense moot.
Thought, like I said, I'm not familiar with what the actual law says, only what it's called.
Thought, like I said, I'm not familiar with what the actual law says, only what it's called.
Harrekin
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How many people have died in the US since Van-tray? Get a life lads, people get killed for far less everyday, if someone hadve mugged Trayvan for his grill (I assume theyre expensive) or other valuables and shot him we'd never have heard about it.
desert dude
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Check your facts. Zimmer did not make 50 calls to 911 in the past year, he made 46 calls to 911 in the past eight years. Zimmer did not call 911 to report a suspicious "black male", he called to report a suspicious person in his neighborhood. When the 911 dispatcher told him "we don't need you to do that", Zimmer responded "OK", and he apparently stopped following Trayvon.
Being an asshole with a gun does not make one guilty of "manslaughter at the least". If that were the case half the residents of Florida, and 90% of the cops, would be doing hard time.
Zimmer acted in self defense. Get over it.
Carne Seca
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First of all, he wasn't on neighborhood watch. He was on an errand and happened to notice Trayvon standing under the eaves at the club house to avoid the rain. You don't carry guns on neighborhood watch. It's against the policies of registered watch programs. He was a "self-appointed" captain of this so-called neighborhood watch organization that had started just the previous summer and he was the only volunteer for the program.
He not only actively pursued Trayvon after being told not to, he blocked Trayvon's path home. Travyon had to go around Zimmerman if he wanted to get to the house where he was staying.
UncleBuck
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those are removable. they're fake. martin doesn't have a grill, that's just something you'd like to believe.
UncleBuck
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lol, no.
he was still in his vehicle at that point, he followed him a little more in his vehicle than on foot for several hundred yards.
but you know all the "facts", right?
Mindmelted
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lol, no.
he was still in his vehicle at that point, he followed him a little more in his vehicle than on foot for several hundred yards.
but you know all the "facts", right?
Seems like you think you know all the facts though !!!!!!!