Worst strain you have even grown ?
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vilify
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same goes for the violator kush. have to pheno hunt, as my friend received a great pheno from a fellow grower of his, who ran 50+ seeds to find it.
pheno hunt people, CANT BE LAZY. if you fall prey, and think you will get a keeper from every seed, quit while you are ahead. finding a keeper pheno isnt always a cheap process, but well worth it in the end.
pheno hunt people, CANT BE LAZY. if you fall prey, and think you will get a keeper from every seed, quit while you are ahead. finding a keeper pheno isnt always a cheap process, but well worth it in the end.
Reloader
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I will say that I popped 2 seeds (barney's Farm Lsd) and one plant turned out great and one just stretched and had little bud. So I took clones off the good one, and have been running that one.
does the lsd at least smoke good?
crazyhazey
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looks like you got lucky, i wish all breeders actually took time to stabilize a strain before they start selling them for like 60 bucks for a 10 pack of regs, and dont even get started with those fems they really overprice those. ill stick to sannies, pheno huntings not too easy when your growing in fl too many goddamn pigs.
Reloader
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Yea I only bought 3 feminized lsd seeds, at about $12.00 a seed. I only used 2 one is a great plant and one i killed off lanky with small buds.
brotherjericho
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When I first started growing (oh, about 2 months ago!!), LSD looked so attractive and people were growing it on every board I visited. But I also noted that most of the grows looked shitty as hell, and people were constantly asking "what's wrong with my plant?". So I'm glad others have helped me to not grow LSD in the future.
Reloader
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Dude it is a great smoke or vape. The high is very strong,of course i ran mine 67 days until trichs were part brown.
here is a pic of some of last harvest.
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CoralGrower
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Worst - bagseed. 9 plants and every one of them (female) produced seeds....lots and lots of seeds.
brotherjericho
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So either they weren't truly female (hermi) or you had a male in the mix. Seeds cannot be produced without pollen.
cleverpiggy
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Green House El Nino. Looks fantastic smelled great produced over abundantly but no high at all. This strain won a CC as well. Stay far away from GH in my opinion.
PJ Diaz
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I'm thinking this might be a high cbd / low thc strain.
From info found here: http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/green-house-seeds-el-nino-feminized/prod_341.html
THC Level : 12.0%
It's effect is a smooth body feeling, very pleasant high and long lasting.
Californicater
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Northern lights, but I cant blame the strain, lots of growers error w/ that sativa.
PJ Diaz
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When did Northern Lights become Sativa? It's mostly Indica.
crazyhazey
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theres many indica and sativa dom versions of NL, almost 10 seedbanks have the same strain called Northern Lights, most of them with different lineage if im not mistaken, but many companies will call a strain OG kush even if both parents werent true OG. imo, northern lights was one of the most forgiving strains ive grown, i got an indica dom like you said pj. good yield, cant say it was massive but it was decent, potency was an A-.
btw how many phenos of NL did you grow out and what seedbank did you get them from?
PJ Diaz
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From here: http://www.seedsman.com/en/origins-of-northern-lights/
[h=1]The Origins of Northern Lights[/h]No other indica plant besides the legendary G-13 has accumulated such widespread recognition and fame as the Northern Lights Afghani. The original Northern Lights plants were pure indicas but later hybrids were released with a bit of Thai Sativa in their pedigree. This probably accounts for the fruity taste and great, almost psychedelic, high that this plant is known for today. Although most of the subsequent plants were bred towards an indica expression, there are still sativa phenotypes popping up now and then as a reminder of the genetic history of the plant.Making its way from the Pacific North West to the Netherlands in 1985, the Northern Lights arrived in the possession of Neville Schoenmaker. Neville was the owner of Holland's first cannabis Seed Company known as The Seed Bank, which later was renamed Sensi Seeds under new ownership. According to the most credible source; Northern Lights was originally bred by a man known as “The Indian” on an Island near Seattle Washington in the United States. Some also claim that the plant originated in California before ending up in the hand of this mysterious man from Seattle but there is no conclusive evidence to support this. Apparently there were a total of eleven plants that were labeled Northern Lights #1 through Northern Lights #11. Northern Lights #5 was said to have been the best of the bunch, with Northern Lights #1 coming in at a close second. The original Northern Lights plants were described to be true breeding Afghanis with extreme indica characteristics. They were dark green in color and very stable, with a high flower to leaf ratio while sporting a piney taste and purple hues in flowering. They were also known to be highly resinous with a THC percentage over 15%, sometimes higher.
The story goes that all the various Northern Lights plants that were given to Neville Schoenmaker at the Seed Bank were female clones. Soon after, many new plants showed up on the Seed Bank list, including several different Northern Lights strains. This is where the history begins to get a bit hazy. How exactly these new seeds came to be is unclear but apparently Neville Schoenmaker used the plants that he got from the Indian to create new hybrids by further crossing them to some males of Afghani origin. He might have acquired them from the same source as the females but the Northern Lights males were never labeled, so their history remains unclear. The best guess is that Neville Schoenmaker created the new seeds by further hybridizing and inbreeding the plants that he acquired from the Indian to his old stock. Northern Lights #1 was described as a true breeding Afghani IBL (inbred line), suggesting that it contained none of the Thai Sativa that was later incorporated into some of the Northern Lights strains. At what point the Thai Sativa was infused into the genetic lineage is however unclear. Most likely it was bred into the Northern Lights #2 hybrid at some point. Regardless of their origin or genetic makeup, two particular males labeled Northern Lights #1 and Northern Lights #2 are clearly mentioned as the fathers of many new plants in a Seed Bank catalogue from the 1980’s. Northern Lights #2, a wonderfully potent Northern Lights #1-Hindu Kush hybrid, is still offered by Dutch Passion under the name Oasis. There is also some Northern Lights #2 in Aurora B from The Flying Dutchmen.
The two Northern Lights males fathered several potent and exotic hybrids that included the notoriously potent G-13 female as well as Big Bud, Skunk #1, Hash Plant, Haze and Swazi, among others. One of the more noteworthy unions from this time was the Northern Lights #5 x Northern Lights #2 hybrid, which now no longer exists. The only strains from this collection that are still available at Sensi Seeds today are Hash Plant, which is made up of one quarter Northern Lights #1, as well as G-13 x Hash Plant,Black Domina and Big Bud with a slightly smaller portion of the same Northern Lights genes. Four-Way is also one quarter Northern Lights although it does contain some Cannabis Ruderalis, so it might not be the best choice for everyone. It might however appeal to the outdoor grower looking for auto-flowering or fast flowering varieties. Theoriginal Lowryder was also partly made up of Northern Lights #2 for those interested in the history of auto-flowering outdoor cannabis strains.
The genetic lineage of the various Northern Lights plants quickly becomes confusing since the entire line is diverse but also closely related and inbred. However, the Northern Lights #5 clone, which was considered the most superior plant of the bunch, was apparently never sold in seed form and must therefore have been the only unaltered version of the original plants. The pure Northern Lights #5 Afghani indica was used to create several outstanding and potent hybrids in combination with many of the strains that The Seed Bank had to offer at the time. Although many of these Cannabis Cup winners are now extinct, some are still available in seed form today at Sensi Seeds. These plants are also the closest relatives to the glorious Northern Lights #5 mother that Sensi Seeds has to offer. Most notable of these strains are the Northern Lights #5 x Haze, Northern Lights #5 x Skunk #1 or Shiva Skunk, Silver Pearl and last but not least; Jack Herer, the main ingredient in the now legendary Cinderella99. The glorious Jack Herer is a superior plant that forms a union between the three most important building blocks of modern cannabis strains; Northern Lights, Skunk and Haze.
Some of the strains mentioned above were also sold under the flag of the Super Sativa Seeds Company carrying different names. Some might remember the M39, which was made up of a strain called Basic 5 and Skunk #1. The Basic 5 was apparently Northern Lights #5, which means that this hybrid was similar to the Shiva Skunk offered at the Seed Bank, now known as Sensi Seeds. The Brothers Grimm also offered their version of the Aurora Borealis but it has since disappeared from the market.The current, unnumbered version of the Northern Lights that Sensi Seeds offers today is according to their description a mix of the three pure variants of Northern Lights that were at their disposal in the past. Since the plant is a result of years of selection and back-breeding, it is difficult to say what the exact lineage is but an educated guess would be that they perhaps combined their Northern Lights #1 male to either the original Northern Lights #5 mother or the Northern Lights #5 x Northern Lights #2 hybrid in order to create this current version.There are a few other breeders that offer high quality Northern Lights plants and hybrids. One of the most highly regarded versions of modern Northern Lights #5 comes from the British Columbia Seed Company. Their plant possibly derives from the original Northern Lights #5 x Northern Lights #2 hybrid created at the Seed Bank by Neville himself. Dr. Atomic, Joey Weed, Reeferman as well as many others also offer select versions of Northern Lights, some more highly regarded than others. The Sweet Pink Grapefruit that Breeder Steve used to create his Sweet Tooth seed line is also allegedly an old school Northern Lights #1 cutting from British Colombia. Federation Seeds Mikado is also thought to be a reworked version of the Spice of Life Sweet Pink Grapefruit. The Sagarmatha Seed Bank in turn offers a plant that they call Northern Lights #9, which is made up of Northern Lights #5, White Widow and Durban. Slyder from Sagarmatha contains the same Northern Lights #5 and can be considered a forerunner to the Northern Lights #9.Some of the strains from Serious Seeds also contain some old school Northern Lights, mainly Chronic, which is made up of 50% Northern Lights with a touch of Skunk #1 and the notorious "one-hit-wonder" AK-47. The origin of the Northern Lights used in both the Serious Seeds and Sagarmatha hybrids can be traced back to the original plants, since the owners of both seeds companies apparently worked at Sensi Seeds at one point of their careers and thereby obtained their plants directly from the source. Likewise, some of the strains from The Mr Nice Seedbank contain pure, authentic old school Northern Lights #5 genes, including their Super Silver Haze. Apparently Neville and Shantibaba are also reviving the original Northern Lights #5 from a Haze hybrid from old stock. It might resurface in the near future. Exile from Magus Genetics is also made up of one quarter Northern Lights with some White Widow thrown into the mix but the strain is still highly propelled by the potent and always popular Warlock Super Skunk. Double Dutch from the same company is an early version of Chronic from Serious Seeds coupled up with the same potent father, making it a true Northern Lights hybrid. Both plants have accumulated several awards and are of uttermost high quality.
There is also some mentioning of a private Northern Lights cutting that is said to be the real thing. It is known as P91, which stand for Poway Class of '91. This version of the plant, which originates from Poway San Diego, is supposedly an inbred or cubed version of Northern Lights #5 but this was impossible to confirm. It is considered to be one of the few, true and pure Northern Lights plants left in the world.The strains containing Northern Lights are simply too many to mention. Northern Lights has over the years become a very important line in modern cannabis genetics. Today, most seed companies offer their version of Northern Lights. Some of the plants are more closely related to the original plants than others, and descriptions by breeders are often lacking in detail. One thing is for certain and that is that there is more than one version of Northern Lights in circulation, ranging from indica to sativa in expression.
bcguy01
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crazyhazey
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shit pj you did some research on that one +rep. NL has been put in so many strains by many reputable breeders, dont let one pheno discourage you. and i forgot it was in chronic, thats one of the best strains out there.
crazyhazey
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yet the attitude still endorses them and adds freebies from kc. im still amazed hes in business
they have a strain nirvana ripped off them called papaya, idk if nirvana ruined the genetics yet but it was a pretty good strain.
