RawBudzski
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I used to hear ppl saying they only want the Uppers.. not the downer pills(heroin based). Different ingredients, I am assuming it depends on the maker & the items they have readily available.
Do you trust ecstasy pills?
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racerboy71
bud bootlegger
mda is very easy to differentiate from mdma ime... mda is much more triippy, more like lsd then mdma, again, ime.. mda also seems to last many many many hours, lol...
i also found mda to be much less emphatic than mdma.. both are really nice and have their place, but i still prefer the empathy that comes with good mdma over that trippy high from mda..
Corbat420
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^ This.
the ONLY thing you can know without a chemical test kit is weather its an Upper or a Downer. Uppers are Amphetamine Based, Downers are Opioid Bases.
Just for the record, Meth is slang for cheap amphetamines, MDMA and MDA are Both amphetamines.... so Badly made MDMA and MDA = Meth. seriously people.....
3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA; "sassafras"; "sass"; "mandy")
3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA, E, Extacy)
So yea, Doing MDMA is Doing Meth. Meth isn't all that bad unless YOU make it bad.
Karmapuff
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Well I just read up on the E pill you sent me in your link, I am probably going to stay away from doing it tonight and maybe save it for another day. They are saying it's MDA with maybe a combination of MDPV. Some people said they hallucinate just like LSD at times and feel really sick and have severe anxiety... I think I am just better off popping a 10mg percocet tonightmda is very easy to differentiate from mdma ime... mda is much more triippy, more like lsd then mdma, again, ime.. mda also seems to last many many many hours, lol...
i also found mda to be much less emphatic than mdma.. both are really nice and have their place, but i still prefer the empathy that comes with good mdma over that trippy high from mda..
bird mcbride
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Don't kill yourself with chemical addiction. Smoke some pot and pour a shot. It's a proven.
canndo
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morfin56
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http://www.pillreports.com/
Like above said pressed pills are usually no good.
If no one has mention pill report, check your X there before you take it.
Like above said pressed pills are usually no good.
If no one has mention pill report, check your X there before you take it.
2fast92
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This. There's a website that I forgot what it's called but I'm sure you can find it on Google, that it just a database of rolls that all have reviews by region and country.
http://www.pillreports.com/
Edit: Fuck, I just saw the URL was in the post above mine.
Corbat420
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so your trying to get the chem lord around to try and bring down that post hey Canndo, trying to troll around like everyone else? well get whats coming to you.
heres a little chemical fact for you, what 90% of people call "Methamphetamine" on the streets is ACTUALLY Desoxyephedrine, and its not an amphetamine at all.... its a Phenylethylamine not a true Amphetamine. Chemically it falls into both catagories (which makes it so highly addictive) but the only reason its classified as an amphetamine is the fact that N-methyl-1-phenylpropan-2-amine degrades inside your body due to the exposute to MAO's and turns into an amphetamine based epinephrine and a Phenylethylamine based Phentermine while inside your body......
so TRUTHFULLY Phenal-2-amine (N-methyl-1-phenylpropan-2-amine) Is technicly not "Meth" at all, its just what its called on the streets.
But now, if i start playing with the amphetamine class, and i find all methylene based substances which stay as amphetamines in your body..... that's a pharmaceutical level of "methamphetamine's", such as MDMA, MDA, MDEA and 3-FEA.
3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine
3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine
3,4-Methylenedioxy-N-ethylamphetamine
3-Fluoroethamphetamine
Notice how (N-methyl-1-phenylpropan-2-amine) has many of the precursers to amphetamines, but it's not an actual amphetamine! thats because its a Phenylethylamine. Street Meth = Not even an amp...
P.S: so you read a book or 2, doesn't mean you know anything..... do like the rest of us, and experiment.... i've cooked MDMA and MDA before, i still own the boilers, flasks, stands, glassware and info sheets on how to do it, if i wanted to cook some up all i would have to get is Sassafras oil, p-Benzoquinone, and Magnesium sulfate.......
CrackIsWack
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moonrocks, sass, or molly. On very rare occasion will you find a nice pressy, not worth the chance.
Corbat420
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i wish the world was a better place, where borders were non existent and experimentation is an excepted thing..... but thats not soyou should cook some for all of us so no one has this problem anymore
if i could, i would send a carepackage of Dank and MDMA you would all be getting an OZ of NYCdiesel and a Gram of 95~% MDMA every year for xmas....
RIU is like a family, and a family should share there drugs, and drug knowledge
weasels911
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If someone called a substance meth, I would expect it to be methamphetamine, or at the very least something that produced a similar stimulant like Desoxyephedrine that may fool a user. But what you're doing is calling every substance meth that contains a methyl substituent. MDMA, DOM, 2M2B all vastly different, and I certainly wouldn't refer to any of them as meth. So then DMT is meth too? No only methamphetamine goes by meth in my book.
Corbat420
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well, considering the fact that its possible to use receptacles such as plastic bottles, metal baking sheets, copper tubing and cooking glass can be used to to replace 2000ML round bottom flasks, proper evaporation trays, vigreaux columns, distillation columns and separatory funnels..... when someone uses this crap to make amphetamines, then yes, i would call it Meth.
if it was properly made, in laboratory conditions i would call it by its name.... such as methamfetamine, 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methylamphetamine, or 3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine.......
Well considering the fact that DMT is produced in our bodies, and mainly works on amine transmitters, which makes it a Phenylethylamine (Natural monoamine alkaloid). DMT is technicly classified as a tryptamine (a Monoamine alkaloid) which makes it closely related to Meth. Now is where we get into the part that makes them different: The chemicals.
DMT = 2-(1H-indol-3-yl)-N,N-dimethylethanamine
Meth = N-methyl-1-phenylpropan-2-amine
MDMA = (RS)-1-(benzo[d][1,3]dioxol-5-yl)-N-methylpropan-2-amine
DMT is part of an amine group which uses Dimethylamine, where as Meth and MDMA use Methylamine.... this makes then 2 TOTALLY different classes of drugs, which effect the body totally differently.
P.S: Don't get Dimethyltryptamine and methamphetamine mixed up simply because they are both phenethylamine's, all that means if they are a naturally occurring monoamine alkaloid
Corbat420
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Oh and just for the record i know how vastly different the drugs can effect you, but you also have to realize that people are all effected by drugs differently. if you give someone with Bipolar an Amphetamine it might just ballence them out instead of making the go manic and insane (like it causes some people to do...)
the fact of the matter is people don't make these drugs PROPERLY. they make them any way they possibly can....
if you have a pill that has 35% MDMA + 65% DXM, and another pill thats 35% Methamphetamine + 65% DXM you not going to know the difference. the Amps will stimulate you, the DXM will dissasociate you and you wont know the difference, or care.
the fact of the matter is people don't make these drugs PROPERLY. they make them any way they possibly can....
if you have a pill that has 35% MDMA + 65% DXM, and another pill thats 35% Methamphetamine + 65% DXM you not going to know the difference. the Amps will stimulate you, the DXM will dissasociate you and you wont know the difference, or care.
weasels911
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I still wouldn't call impure MDMA meth. To me it's a short name given to methamphetamine reguardless of the quality being some high class glass or some shake and bake kictchen crank. You know... Just another name for the high-speed chicken feed, not what you would refer to as ecstasy. That's why people are often upset with recieveing meth bomb pressed pills.