Do you trust ecstasy pills?

Too bad you kids have to take pills that you need to look up on some website. We used to go to raves in Detroit with thousands of kids, and cities all over really, where you just asked the guys at the front of the party what kind of e they had, how was the roll, and bam, we'd take them by the mouthful, and had a great time doing it. Taken more than I could count, and never a problem, ever.

God what a feeling. Mix that with bumps of K through the night, and an awsome DJ we stood in line for hours to get in and see......omg memories.

I LOVE E!

Too bad you kids have to take pills that you need to look up on some website. We used to go to raves in Detroit with thousands of kids

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OH man, ive been thinking the same thing.

in Vancouver there are some major raves... indoors and out. showing up with 2000+ Hits of 150 MG caps of MDMA and leaving 3 days later with nothing.... no money, no drugs, no booze... the ones i can remember are fucking awesome.... and im sure the ones i cant are even better

Sassafras oil is so easy to get in BC that its not even funny. almost anyone can make MDMA for CHEAP..... i love being able to give it away at raves.

To answer the thread title, no I generally don't trust pressed pills.

fuck e go for the most pure molly u can get i get awsome molly nice pill capsules filled to the top roll fucking hard and then hop in bed naked with my lady n play around with her cnt do much else with e dick lol cnt stay hard for shit also fuck doing molly in raves i enjoy doing it with my friends sitting and having deep convos or with my gf as stated above

miko420 said:

fuck e go for the most pure molly u can get i get awsome molly nice pill capsules filled to the top roll fucking hard and then hop in bed naked with my lady n play around with her cnt do much else with e dick lol cnt stay hard for shit also fuck doing molly in raves i enjoy doing it with my friends sitting and having deep convos or with my gf as stated above

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Whatever way you enjoy doing something is great. What's funny is that after a long time of doing E with all my friends, and about a thousand other new very best friends in the entire fucking world at Raves, the thought of sitting around taking pills makes me frown. That shit is meant to get up, and dance motha fucka, dance!

I'd kill for just one more of those days, just one. Now we're all married with kids and are out of the cool loop . Life goes on. Enjoy it while you have it.

And what's with all these laundry list of drug names that are a bunch of random letters strung together? Is this why I have to show my ID at my fucking age to buy Sudafed, and Nyquil (sp??)? I have a feeling the answer is yes, but it still makes me laugh to see people asking about them LOL!

Is this why I have to show my ID at my fucking age to buy Sudafed, and Nyquil (sp??)? I have a feeling the answer is yes,

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I'll answer this one for you.... yes.....

and as funny as this is.... Sudafed = used to make meth, Nyquil used to make DXM.... both are party drugs LOL

Corbat420 said:

so your trying to get the chem lord around to try and bring down that post hey Canndo, trying to troll around like everyone else? well get whats coming to you.

heres a little chemical fact for you, what 90% of people call "Methamphetamine" on the streets is ACTUALLY Desoxyephedrine, and its not an amphetamine at all.... its a Phenylethylamine not a true Amphetamine. Chemically it falls into both catagories (which makes it so highly addictive) but the only reason its classified as an amphetamine is the fact that N-methyl-1-phenylpropan-2-amine degrades inside your body due to the exposute to MAO's and turns into an amphetamine based epinephrine and a Phenylethylamine based Phentermine while inside your body......

so TRUTHFULLY Phenal-2-amine (N-methyl-1-phenylpropan-2-amine) Is technicly not "Meth" at all, its just what its called on the streets.

But now, if i start playing with the amphetamine class, and i find all methylene based substances which stay as amphetamines in your body..... that's a pharmaceutical level of "methamphetamine's", such as MDMA, MDA, MDEA and 3-FEA.

3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine
3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine
3,4-Methylenedioxy-N-ethylamphetamine
3-Fluoroethamphetamine

Notice how (N-methyl-1-phenylpropan-2-amine) has many of the precursers to amphetamines, but it's not an actual amphetamine! thats because its a Phenylethylamine. Street Meth = Not even an amp...

P.S: so you read a book or 2, doesn't mean you know anything..... do like the rest of us, and experiment.... i've cooked MDMA and MDA before, i still own the boilers, flasks, stands, glassware and info sheets on how to do it, if i wanted to cook some up all i would have to get is Sassafras oil, p-Benzoquinone, and Magnesium sulfate.......

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I disagree with little of what you say here and can't understand why you might be on the defensive, I have long suspected that street speed is not in an amphetamine class. It's nice that you can cook.

can't understand why you might be on the defensive, I have long suspected that street speed is not in an amphetamine class.

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dont take it personaly man, sometimes i'll use something as an example of the mindset of the general forum (it just happened to be your post). i just wanted to take the opportunity to explain to some people that they arn't even taking Amps when they take street class drugs.... i did take it to far, and for that im sorry. i was having a bad day allready and shouldn;t have taken it out on you.

there are Thousands of people out there who don't want to take their meds... if you can find one, buy their drugs... pharmaceuticals are alot more trustworthy if your going to be trusting street drugs....

Be Safe, Share with care

Sorry for being late. I was busy turning 30.
First off there is no such thing as a heroin or opioid based pill. Pure MDMA is pretty mellow, especially if taken outside of a party setting. Heroin is even more worthless orally than morphine. Opioids are worth too much on their own to be worth using as a cut.

Corbat, where are you copying your laughably false information from, Uncle Fester. Because desoxyephedrine=ephedrine with the -OH group reduced to -H =methamphetamine. The stereochemical difference between ephedrine and pseudoephidrine is at the one carbon, not the 2 carbon. Desoxyephedrine is most certainly not a phenethylamine because it has a three carbon side chain. Well technically you could name it an alpha methyl phenethylamine, but that's fucking pain in the ass nomenclature, probably the worst way to name an amphetamine. N-methyl-1-phenylpropan-2-amine is another way of naming methamphetamine.
I have a family obligation I need to be leaving for in a moment so I'm going to pause here. I'll go through the rest in a little while.
by the way cooking MDMA doesn't mean you know a goddamn thing about chemistry. Anyone can follow a recipe.

^^My friends never believe me that there's no such thing (at least anymore) as opiate based E pills. Never made sense to me why they would put heroin (a downer) with MDMA (a stimulant). 1-1=0....

Eat em nukka!!!!!!!! AND SNORT EM!!!!1

You cannot judge a pill just by its look.
I've seen and used many shitty pills that looked legid.

Desoxyephedrine is most certainly not a phenethylamine because it has a three carbon side chain. Well technically you could name it an alpha methyl phenethylamine, but that's fucking pain in the ass nomenclature, probably the worst way to name an amphetamine. N-methyl-1-phenylpropan-2-amine is another way of naming methamphetamine.

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OK, just one good point to shut this down....

http://www.mdma.net/pea.html An Exerpt from PiKHaL:

The adding of a methyl group adjacent to the amine produces phenylisopropylamine, or amphetamine. This has been exploited already as one of the richest families of psychedelic drugs; and over half of the recipes in Book II are specifically for amphetamine analogues with various substituents on the aromatic ring. The further methylation of amphetamine with yet another methyl group, this time on the nitrogen atom, yields methamphetamine. Here the track record with various substituents on the aromatic ring is not nearly as good. Many have been explored and, with one exception, the quality and potency of human activity is down. But the one exception, the N-methyl analogue of MDA, proved to be the most remarkable MDMA.

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So, your saying Alexander Shungin is wrong? Good luck with that.

you obviously have alot of catching up to do kid. people have been doing this for our own use for a LONG time. between TiHKaL, and PiHKaL Mr. Shulgin has taught ALOT of people to cook drugs for their own consumption, and know the chemistry behind it.....

You claim to understand this and basic nomenclature is too advanced for you?
Amphetamines all have a three carbon chain. I'm not quite sure what you think that excerpt proves. It says that adding an alpha methyl group to a PEA produces an amphetamine.
Propose a synthesis of MDMA starting from benzene if you know your synthetic chemistry.

I never trust an e pill...

But sometimes a dirty roll just hits the spot

shrooms are wayyyyy better

LETS BAZE said:

shrooms are wayyyyy better

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shrooms are dope but for some people such as my self doing molly with friends and or girlfriend is a nice social experience... while im unable to do shrooms with people the only time i enjoy shrooms to the fullest is when im alone with my cats in my room well lit

I prefer slightly cut pills to be honest, as someone said, pure mdma can tranquilise the crap out of you if you don't get enough stimulation.
It is however much nicer the day after the pure stuff than the day after the cut stuff.

I still have one of these, but we will have to wait for spring as easter was the last of this season's outdoor trance weekends, will oalso be interesting to do with thenew baby in tow. Also have to wait for the all clear from the cardiac doctor. I'd hat to get another heart attack 3 hours from the nearest hospital with a cardiac centre.

Om nom nom nom nom!

I took my first pill on friday night. Deffs hit me hard you could say.

Diluted pupils, constantly grinding my teeth and tensing my jaw bone. Rockin out with my cock out (lol jk but I did go crazy on the dance floor)

Whether I have trust for them, i will find out because my experience so far hasn't been too bad but I hear it depends on the pill.