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Whenever government gets involved it all goes to shit.. Examples?
regulations are killing us. it's the end of the world.
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laughingduck
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department of education, department of energy, war on drugs
We should probably do away with dept of education because local government and parents have been proven time and time again to provide excellent educations to children.
Moses Mobetta
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If that happens then the children cant be brainwashed into the things government wants. They stopped wanting smarter students and better schools a long time ago.
Rob Roy
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... you said government regulations ONLY (my emphasis) appear when a industry can't self regulate. You also said "do right by the people" .
Pot laws were based on regulations INDUSTRY pinned on people.
Moses Mobetta
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We are still under these regulations today. Does it ever end?
Johnny Retro
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Ever heard of charter schools? Its funny..the education union leaders in D.C, New York, and NJ, all went to private schools. One of them even said, "i had to try hard (in private schools) if not they would have kicked me out". Hypocrisy at its finest..
Oh and btw..those charter school kids score a hell of alot better on test's than public school kids...and the charter schools budgets are less then public schools. But wait..the public schools just need more funding!! Obamanics proved wrong..
Oh and btw..those charter school kids score a hell of alot better on test's than public school kids...and the charter schools budgets are less then public schools. But wait..the public schools just need more funding!! Obamanics proved wrong..
desert dude
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When regulations are used as a club to beat your enemy, then regulations are indeed a bad thing.
it's ALWAYS the end of the world.
Look at the federal tax code. It is 850,000 pages long. That is a VERY bad thing.
Johnny Retro
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The funny thing is..and I tell you this from experience..the Volcker rule just gives other firms and hedge funds the ability to help banks prop trade indirectly. And Dodd Frank just opens new doors to new ways of making money, that by the public's eye, would be corruption. If you're gona regulate, make it simple and un-passable. But the people regulating banks have no fucking idea what they are doing. Can anyone tell me how many SEC regulators there are compared to how many financial institutions in the United States?
When the people who are being "regulated" are smarter than the regulators, you're setting it up for failure. I see this shit first hand day in and day out.
So go on and continue to regulate, you're just opening up new doors.
I believe the correct term would be "Darwinism" something financial guys are VERY good at.
When the people who are being "regulated" are smarter than the regulators, you're setting it up for failure. I see this shit first hand day in and day out.
So go on and continue to regulate, you're just opening up new doors.
I believe the correct term would be "Darwinism" something financial guys are VERY good at.
deprave
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Regulations also the reason we have mega-corporations with monopolies pretty much...some are good...some are bad...its important to distinguish the difference..generally regulations that cost too much, don't work, or include giving the government money are bad and also create an unfair advantage in the market. Sane regulations that actually have peoples interest in mind without playing favorites or giving money to the government are good (far and few in between)
deprave
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Not to mention the bankers basically regulate themselves, with the help of politcians really, just look at who obama appoints secratary of treasury and his whole cabinet lol
Moses Mobetta
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[video=youtube;QslV5asj_yM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QslV5asj_yM&feature=g-vrec&context=G2d3af7eRVAAAAAAAABw[/video]
desert dude
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If you want a real world example of onerous regulations (outside of the US), look at India. The Indians took their cue from the Brits. After the Brits left the Indians went full retard and the country languished as a third world shithole for 100 years or so, despite having a culture that values education, hard work and entrepreneurship. (I just hit the spelling jackpot: I spelled "entrepreneurship" correctly with no help from spell-check!)
Blaze Master
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i think you've gone "full retard". indias economy is WAY more healthy then americas and growing faster by the day. without the regulations india has it would be in the same shitty boat that america is today. btw india has been independant for about 65 years, not "100 years or so".
Johnny Retro
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You don't keep up with current events do you? It's not 2005 anymore.. They are loosing steam due to inept politicians. http://www.economist.com/node/21551061
Blaze Master
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that link said indias current growth rate is at 6.1%. that's still a hell of alot better then any western country.
Johnny Retro
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The point is, they are slowing down due to regulations.
Blaze Master
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why do you assume it is regulations that are slowing india down? indias growth is slowing because world economic growth has slowed in the last 5 years.
Johnny Retro
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I thought you read the article?
"Three recent episodes illustrate the muddle at the top. First, the government announced that it was at last opening its inefficient retail industry to foreign firms—only to change its mind within days. This month, to protect industry at home, it banned the export of cotton, upsetting India’s farmers and trading partners; within days, it backtracked. And last week the government moved to overrule the Supreme Court and change the tax code to tax foreign takeovers retroactively, not least Vodafone’s purchase of its Indian arm. Some worry that the rule of law, one of India’s great strengths, is being eroded."