bad genetics?

[dank smoker420]

i see that some people have nice even flushes and i have very un even flushes. maybe 2-3 grow to full size. and even in a tray i only have 5 growing with one big one and 4 smaller one. can this be bad mushroom genetics? and how would you get good genetics? are the genetics of the mushrooms all the same if they are from the same cake?

 

[canndo]

Nice even flushes are part genetics and part manipulation and pinning strategy. If you want a more even flush you can pick the early volunteers but more to the point:

use casing
bring your mycelium to just below or just above the surface of the casing
At that point, expose to light, reduce your co2 levels and (yes this is controvercial but I am a firm believer), reduce your temperature by 10 to 15 degrees for seveal days.

Shaggy manes love this strategy.

The genetics of mushrooms are not necessarily the same if you innoculated your substrate with spores.

Now, because shaggy manes decompose so quickly it is always best to initiate a pinning strategy that brings each fruit to picking stage all at the very same time

 

[dank smoker420]

wonderful information canndo! thank you so much i knew you would be the one with the answer haha ill add a casing to my sub after this flush. i never thought about picking the early formers. ill have to try that out. i could case a coir/verm sub with dry verm correct?

 

[canndo]

Wait, you will not do well casing after a flush, you need to start from scratch. No, don't use dry vermiculite, use a ratio of casing with nutrition and substrate. The less nutrition in the substrate the less nutrition you should put in your casing. I have seen instances where horse manure substrates (lots of nutrition) could support 20/80 horse manure/vermiculite but using that for casing coir would make the casing more powerful than the substrate - of course it will still work, as I have said, there isn't much you can to to mess it up.

 

[dank smoker420]

hmm i see alright when i made the tray i used coir/verm on the bottom then broke the cake and added more coir/verm on top. is that a casing? or would i put a casing over the coir/verm on top of the broken cake

 

[canndo]

That isn't really casing Dank, it is some sort of sandwich that merely extends the bounds of the substrate, it seems more like spawning actually. casing is laying a thin (3/4 - 2 inche) layer of sparse, water absorbing, PH neutral to base coarse material on the top of a fully colonized substrate. I realize that many don't see the point, claiming that it is just one more delay, just one more proceedure, just one more expense and just one more invite to contamination. These are all true. My response however, is that the substrate is not damaged when picking, there is no dunking required - and - your pinsets will be more likely to be uniform and massive. Shaggy manes will fruit from straw alone but the addition of a casing makes all the difference.

 

[dank smoker420]

oh i think i get it now haha sorry im pretty high. so before you put it into fruit you put the casing on. ill be reading about this in the near future forsure

 

[Unnk]

lol canndo your quite the FUNgi

always have good advice everywhere

i think ill start a slogan

If Canndo , can do, I can TOO!

lol

 

[DaSprout]

Canndo is... The Mushman.

 

[canndo]

Canndo is... The Mushman.

Actualy, I believe myself more proficient in the art of micro propagation, a sigular endeavor.

 

[DaSprout]

Canndo is...Mr.Micro Propagation. I think "Mushman" is more catchy.