Carne Seca
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::crickets::
trayvan martin
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desert dude
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Murder 2, that's a bit of a surprise. We'll see what happens in court. Maybe there is evidence that has not been released that will convict Zimmer. What has been released certainly won't do it.
Carne Seca
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With guns no less. LOL
desert dude
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I am contributing by defending him on this thread from an irrational mob.
UncleBuck
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could be plead down to aggravated manslaughter and put zimmerman away for 15 years.
desert dude
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On the bright side, this thread is destined to go over 8,000 posts now although I expect it will die down a bit until the trial when we see the prosecutor's spiffy evidence.
UncleBuck
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lol @ irrational coming from the guy who still believes zimmerman's story given what we already know.
desert dude
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True. Or maybe the jury has to the option of convicting on the lesser offense of manslaughter? Or maybe they offer him a plea deal for "mayhem" or some such lesser charge with one year in the slammer?
really comfy slippers
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I stalked you, got out of my car, chased you and then you punched me...... So I shot your ass! I love standing my ground.
Carne Seca
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Fucking ridiculous. They are showing Zimmerman being taken to the Seminole County Intake Center. So much for keeping his whereabouts secret for his safety. Fucking media.
desert dude
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You listed what you "know" in post 4140 above. It amounts to nothing. What I know at the moment is based on the police report, and two eye witnesses. Maybe the prosecutor has more that has not been divulged?
As I have said repeatedly, I am perfectly willing to change my mind if real evidence emerges that contradicts those known facts. So far, there has been nothing.
UncleBuck
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i don't think he's getting less than 5 now. corey has looked at the totality of the evidence and decided that zimmerman acted without regard for life (part of murder 2).
whether he actually gets out alive is yet another thing to ponder.
UncleBuck
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lol @ police report.
zimmerman says he was inching towards the grass as he is getting his head slammed on the side walk.
every witness who saw any part of the scuffle said it happened in the grass.
yet just a few pages back you were STILL buying the phony zimmerman account.
dumbass. lol.
desert dude
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Corey is putting on a show to quell the outrage and prevent riots; she is buying time. Unless she comes up with evidence that contradicts Zimmer's account there is no way that a fair minded jury will convict. A hung jury, yeah maybe, a conviction seems impossible to me if they follow the law.
Having Zimmer murdered in his jail cell would certainly not be any kind of justice, but it might serve the purpose of preventing riots. In any case, Zimmer's life is well and truly fucked and has been since the shooting.
UncleBuck
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lol @ you still believing zimmerman's story.
i guess you know better than serino, who talked to zimmerman directly and sniffs out bullshit for a living.
you are a living, breathing testament to the arrogance and idiocy of conservitards everywhere.
desert dude
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I still buy his account at the moment. It jibes perfectly with two independent eye witnesses and the police report. I cannot imagine a scenario where three people, unknown to each other, all present statements that are congruent with one another and also match Zimmer's account of what happened, and it not being a pretty accurate account of what happened. I have not even mentioned the EMT's statement, which I fully expect to completely parallel the police officer's statement. That is what the prosecutor will have to overcome to convict Zimmer.
desert dude
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I am not a conservative, I am a libertarian. As far as I can tell, socons hate libertarians about as much as you progs. Just pointing that out so that you can be more accurate in your insults.
MixedMelodyMindBender
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Anybody know the race of these two "witnesses" or perhaps any background info on them? Hope its not as ruff as zimmermans background. Personally what evidence that has been provided is very subjective and speculative.
The police gather evidence that the justice system uses to determine factual. There has been no facts determined at this point of the investigation. It's still just that, an investigation, and now there is enough evidence that warrants charges being lodged. Still no facts, just evidence.
I still can not believe that this one case gets so many people's attention. Honestly, if this case did not involve race it would have never made the media. This happens almost everyday in America. Around the world, a lot worse happens that never reaches the media.
Yes its a tragedy to some and not to others. But let's move on seriously. 416 pages serves to remind us that this is all really senseless bickering, and a shit ton of it. And for what???
The police gather evidence that the justice system uses to determine factual. There has been no facts determined at this point of the investigation. It's still just that, an investigation, and now there is enough evidence that warrants charges being lodged. Still no facts, just evidence.
I still can not believe that this one case gets so many people's attention. Honestly, if this case did not involve race it would have never made the media. This happens almost everyday in America. Around the world, a lot worse happens that never reaches the media.
Yes its a tragedy to some and not to others. But let's move on seriously. 416 pages serves to remind us that this is all really senseless bickering, and a shit ton of it. And for what???
UncleBuck
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two eyewitnesses?
lol, no.
one eyewitness saw the colors of some clothes for a brief moment, he did not see how the confrontation started or any of the other details (besides that it happened IN THE GRASS).
the other witness saw someone on the ground, not even sure if there were two people there.
no grass stains or wetness on zimmerman's clothes 34 minutes later, no blood, nothing.
we know police make false reports and we have an ex-cop telling us that they do some creative writing on police reports.
you have next to ZERO evidence and what you have is completely unreliable and completely incomplete.
and you still buy it.
lol @ you in general.