trichomedome
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Looking well packed budy what weight would you geustimate ? 
good going TCD
good going TCD
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napalmm
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Hi There! I'm definitely set on making a SCroG for my next grow. I've always had problems making the most of my space, and i'm also done with soil, so i'm pretty much decided on a DWC SCROG (DWC mostly for cost, i already have the air pumps and the growing medium, so that's 2 less things to buy). Some background:
Grow area: 1.2 x 1.2m tent (4 x 4').
Lights: 600w and 400w HPS Light for flowering (I think i'll start with the 600w only and then if i feel like it i might add the 400w one)
400w MH for veg
Ventilation is covered (I can't remember exact CFM but the calculation was ok for an air change per minute).
I'm planning to use 4 5gal buckets (no main res for the moment, each bucket will be managed individually), might start with 3 the first time to get the hang of it as i have 3 different strains at hand (clones, AK48, Hash Plant and Nebula, all with almost the same proven flowering time).
My main concern is how to access the buckets to drain, measure pH/EC and clean them when doing res changes. I'm planning to have drain ports installed on each bucket (and to have them raised around a foot from the floor).
The best solution i've come up with is to have the buckets raised, to have drain ports, and to have the lids of each bucket attached to the screen frame, so i can remove the bucket entirely and the lid will hold the net pot/roots (i'm planning to have some spare buckets to facilitate swaps too).
Here's a sketch of what i'm planning to do (remember that the lids will be attached to the 1" PVC frame):
Feedback will be appreciated, thank you!
Grow area: 1.2 x 1.2m tent (4 x 4').
Lights: 600w and 400w HPS Light for flowering (I think i'll start with the 600w only and then if i feel like it i might add the 400w one)
400w MH for veg
Ventilation is covered (I can't remember exact CFM but the calculation was ok for an air change per minute).
I'm planning to use 4 5gal buckets (no main res for the moment, each bucket will be managed individually), might start with 3 the first time to get the hang of it as i have 3 different strains at hand (clones, AK48, Hash Plant and Nebula, all with almost the same proven flowering time).
My main concern is how to access the buckets to drain, measure pH/EC and clean them when doing res changes. I'm planning to have drain ports installed on each bucket (and to have them raised around a foot from the floor).
The best solution i've come up with is to have the buckets raised, to have drain ports, and to have the lids of each bucket attached to the screen frame, so i can remove the bucket entirely and the lid will hold the net pot/roots (i'm planning to have some spare buckets to facilitate swaps too).
Here's a sketch of what i'm planning to do (remember that the lids will be attached to the 1" PVC frame):
Feedback will be appreciated, thank you!
trichomedome
Active Member
I can,t coment on dwc but removing buckets from underneath the screen will be a major pain. If you have them elevated why not connect them togther with, top hats and 15/20mm plastic pipe and have a single lower drain tap ? Also you can buy a pre made screen, if you,re going to make one like the sketch you,ll be cheaper. That would be an ideal way to set your pots and screen up nice and roomy 
atb with your grow TCD
atb with your grow TCD
forgetiwashere
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and one of my other plants
admittedly i could have spent longer in veg but guess what im still learning...
TheNaturalist
Active Member
Hey I wasnt here when people were giving you shit but its looking pretty good now so you showed them! Dont let a few angry people get you down. Im new here but from what I can tell the majority of RIU members just want to help you succeed. Keep up the good work brotha!well i just wanted to say i was in here 1 week ago and some of you nice people shit on my grow, and i quote " your plants look like a fence fell on them and u will yield better without the screen"
well im not surprised this thread is so slow.
but in any case here is my shit fence crushed plant after a week of stretch. im actually very happy with it, its just how i like it not too cramped and a nice even canopy.
and one of my other plants
admittedly i could have spent longer in veg but guess what im still learning nice to have my efforts shit all over, and on that note good bye
TheNaturalist
Active Member
Or pull those branches down and train them out since it looks like you still have some room on the right and left side to fill
forgetiwashere
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I had no intention of posting in this thread again but I feel this has been blown out of proportion. Yes it is true I didnr like the way tcd went about offering advice but and I vented which in hindsight was a stupid thing to do I had no intention of causing this much havoc
forgetiwashere
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I would like to make a proper apology to tcd for all this crap. I understand you were just offering advice. I hope all this can be resolved without too much more drama.
mufastaa
Active Member
well i think that saying a fence on the plants would decrease yield in a scroggers thread is a bit ignorant, especially when i see that you have an excellent scrog yourself TCD made out of (what else?) a fence just 2 pages back. how could you think it decreases yield?Hi folks a little update on my screen it,s day 10/11th day. Any comments Welcome thanks TCD
Thanks Decepticon
i apologize for offending you, i think you are a good grower.
TheNaturalist
Active Member
Lets put the drama in the past and focus on the future. Lots of people will be reading this thread to learn about ScrOGing and they wont want to wade through pages of us arguing just to find the information.[FONT=Tahoma, Calibri, Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif] F[/FONT]orgetiwashere's scrog looks great and trichomedome is a accomplished grower himself. Sounds like all good things to me!
While Im here i think ill share a shot of my canopy I took last night just after the lights went out. In my opinion it looks a lot better using a flash with the lights out then it does under the HPS, this way you can see the true colors:
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While Im here i think ill share a shot of my canopy I took last night just after the lights went out. In my opinion it looks a lot better using a flash with the lights out then it does under the HPS, this way you can see the true colors:
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cindysid
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That is beautiful! I wanna do one...where did you learn your technique? I have thought about doing one in an old wire dog carrier. I would have to do one outside. I don't have good lights yet.ScrOGers unite!!! Theres a tun of great ScrOGers here on RIU, its great we have a place to share. Heres a few pics of my scrog progressing to current date!
LST to get them ready for the screen:
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built the screen myself from wood and twine, this was the only way I could get the screen nice and tight and to my exact specs (2.5 feet by 2.5 feet with 2.5 inch squares):
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Switched to HPS for flower:
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And finally, here they are as of today at the very beginning of their 5th week in flowering!
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The link to my journal is in my sig for all the details on my ScrOG
TheNaturalist
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Thanks cindysid I really appreciate that! Most of my learning came from following ScrOGers grow journals over at GrassCity but I recently converted over to RollItUp, this is where its at! If I were you id follow a few journals of scrogs so you can see what different people do and who gets the best results and then build your own strategy from that. Aside from reading online I got some hands on help from one of my good friends who grows, he has never done a ScrOG though. It basically came from obsessing over grow journals for a few months prior to getting started. I also recently picked up Edd Rosenthals grow book which i definitely recommend, so much great information!
Yeah my MH bulb was great for pictures but as soon as i switched to HPS all my pictures look yellow and are covered in black bars its pretty shitty. The only problem with taking pictures in the dark is that my camera can focus on the plants so the pics are kinda blurry... The ultimate setup might be to wait till your HPS is off and then use a secondary light source to light your plants up enough your camera can focus before taking a picture with flash. Ill try that next time.
trichomedome
Active Member
Dude[/QUOTE] The ultimate setup might be to wait till your HPS is off and then use a secondary light source to light your plants up enough your camera can focus before taking a picture with flash. Ill try that next time.
I use a clip light with a cool white cfl for that purpose. Any hardware store for 10 bucks probably.
There,s always someone who,s thought of something, spot on duder cheap and effective. TCD
I use a clip light with a cool white cfl for that purpose. Any hardware store for 10 bucks probably.
There,s always someone who,s thought of something, spot on duder cheap and effective. TCD
enjoy
