Oh, that's not as bad. haha. Thanks. Too much wine.Your math is wrong. Its 160 with shipping. 129.99.+ 29.99
Theres another one I ordered from that I cant find. The ebay store is seabrook island
Woah, if that's an accurate chart, I want more info! Shiiieeeet... nice red spike. Wonder if there's any way to get them in the U.S. for a reasonable price.http://www.hagen.com/uk/aquatic/product.cfm?CAT=1&SUBCAT=112&PROD_ID=01015800031001
they have a 54w version of the bulb too. i think i may have found the needle!
You DO NOT want these. I bought one, and soon enough will only be using the fixture as a replacement if something happens. They are not nearly wide enough and the ballasts arent nearly as efficient as the fulham's. A Quantum Badboy is the best way to go (I bought a Grosite Kushmaster and am regretting it) because of all of the vented spots and easy take down. Ill be posting pics soon of the side with the grosite and then when I get my other 2 CO2 bags in Ill take pics of the side with the ebay'd fixture and 2x 4ft 2 lamp T8 fixture I have running next to it for a light booster.http://www.ebay.com/itm/60-5-ft-T5-Aquarium-Light-Coral-Reef-8-Lamps-80W-HO-Bulb-640W-Used-R58-Marine-/251037464030?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a72ffb5de
Didn't know 5 ft'ers existed...
is this guy still the best deal for fixtures? anyone got better prices than this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/T5-Grow-Light-Fluorescent-8-Lamps-6500K-Bulbs-Veg-48-4-ft-Sun-Hydroponics-R48-/251037141241?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a72fac8f9
8-bulb for 149 shipped seems pretty damn good to me.
Wanted the 6-bulb but the price jump is pretty small between the 6 and 8. Don't like the look of his reflectors though. It looks like they're two-bulb reflectors like the bad boy? Can't really tell in the pics... might have to shoot him a message and find out
Really good point!You DO NOT want these. I bought one, and soon enough will only be using the fixture as a replacement if something happens. They are not nearly wide enough and the ballasts arent nearly as efficient as the fulham's. A Quantum Badboy is the best way to go (I bought a Grosite Kushmaster and am regretting it) because of all of the vented spots and easy take down. Ill be posting pics soon of the side with the grosite and then when I get my other 2 CO2 bags in Ill take pics of the side with the ebay'd fixture and 2x 4ft 2 lamp T8 fixture I have running next to it for a light booster.
Side by side experiments are fun, but detrimental to a real grow.
Yeah, I like the looks of them. I'm not so concerned about them being compact... I don't see that as a bad thing necessarily... like you said, more intensity per sq. inch.Altar, if those 8 bulb units for $150 on ebay were from the seller Growzebo (i didnt check the link, sry) those are what I have, every fixture I have except for my current Veg 6 bulb (hydrofarm) and 2 side panels (white, 4bulb hydrofarms), all the others are from Growzebo and Ive had no problems, they're worth the money. I use the 8 bulb for top overhead lighting since they're so compact (17" for 8bulbs) and their 4bulb panels for sidelighting. Their 6 and 8bulb panels ARE 2 bulbs per reflector, so they're not as efficient, but they're more compact so I figure they're a little more intense under the footprint so I can deal with it. Their 4bulb panels are single bulb to reflector and more efficient. I switched to a Hydrofarm for a little bit more money but a larger footprint and single bulb/reflectors in my veg box cuz thats what I wanted, but If you wanna cram a shitload of tubes into a smaller space, the Growzebo (Radiion brand) 8bulb panels are pretty decent, for $150 I'd take them over a badboy anyday (especially when Iheard you have to assemble the badboys...wtf???i dunno) check back through some of my pics.... they're all the Radiion cheapo's. oh and free shipping
Now thats a deal if it is what it claims it is. Although the 3000k bloom lamps shouldnt look white.. one problem is it doesnt list the dimensions of the product. I suppose you could email them and ask.. but I would still prefer PAR/PUR lighting. I guess those lamps could be used as a substitute if one blows.Here are some rebranded Badboys online now selling for the same price but includes the bulbs. Same ballasts too. I figured some of you guys who are looking could use this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Skylight-T5-Fluorescent-Fixture-4-ft-8-Lamp-FREE-LAMPS-grow-light-bad-boy-/130675356073?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6cdbb1a9#ht_3099wt_1021
its a badboy. they just found the manufacturer in china that makes badboys and rebranded it. same maker of the bulbs too.Now thats a deal if it is what it claims it is. Although the 3000k bloom lamps shouldnt look white.. one problem is it doesnt list the dimensions of the product. I suppose you could email them and ask.. but I would still prefer PAR/PUR lighting. I guess those lamps could be used as a substitute if one blows.
Personally, Id rather use the badboy just because of the warranty they offer. Once I can afford a badboy, the standard and cheaper fixture will be used for side lighting. Im not really utilizing any at this point.
EDIT: I bought the samething from Growzebo. Worked with me on getting the lamps I wanted, and fast free shipping. Couldnt be happier with the transaction itself. After some consideration, Ill probably get a few more and use them for side lighting.. that way I wont have to trim the bottoms of my plants so much
Hyroot , or anyone . What photo host do you use. I hate photo bucket.
Thanks in advance.