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Amaximus

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Mets are 6-2 now... It's all just a setup for the inevitable collapse. This is what they have conditioned us to. Still, I was suprised to see Wright back, no less hit a dinger!

I see no one mentioned Thole and Shoppach's base running blunders. go check you tube. funny shit. never saw a guy slide feet first into a base, come up 10 feet short, then dive head first! lmao!
 

kizphilly

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Mets are 6-2 now... It's all just a setup for the inevitable collapse. This is what they have conditioned us to. Still, I was suprised to see Wright back, no less hit a dinger!

I see no one mentioned Thole and Shoppach's base running blunders. go check you tube. funny shit. never saw a guy slide feet first into a base, come up 10 feet short, then dive head first! lmao!
yeah the mets will fall apart like they always do sorry to say.we got some of the best pitchers but it dont mean shit if we cant score
 

hornedfrog2000

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na the phillies won over 100 games last year i cant see them falling off so bad that they dont win the divsion its still early
Yeah, but Miami got better, Nats got better, and the mets have potential. The only big "upgrade" the phils got was papelbon, and it's not like the Phils closer last year was bad. I hope Howard is ok, but having achilles problems myself I couldn't describe the pain that comes with it, and the fact that it just pops up whenever it wants to. Either way no team has to win their division anymore, and now they added another wild card it just means teams like the phillies will make the post season most years.
 

kizphilly

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Yeah, but Miami got better, Nats got better, and the mets have potential. The only big "upgrade" the phils got was papelbon, and it's not like the Phils closer last year was bad. I hope Howard is ok, but having achilles problems myself I couldn't describe the pain that comes with it, and the fact that it just pops up whenever it wants to. Either way no team has to win their division anymore, and now they added another wild card it just means teams like the phillies will make the post season most years.
yeah the nl east def got tougher this offseason
 

Amaximus

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NL East is completely up for grabs. While the Phillies may have had a lock on it for a few years they certainly do not now. IMO it looks like first place may very well be a team with only 92-98 wins. I only say this because I believe the NL East teams are all kinda sub par and will probably knock each other around all year long depending on who is hot at the time.



Also, Someone correct me if I'm wrong, But don't we have 2 extra wild card teams per league this year? That will dilute the standings a bit.
 

hornedfrog2000

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NL East is completely up for grabs. While the Phillies may have had a lock on it for a few years they certainly do not now. IMO it looks like first place may very well be a team with only 92-98 wins. I only say this because I believe the NL East teams are all kinda sub par and will probably knock each other around all year long depending on who is hot at the time.



Also, Someone correct me if I'm wrong, But don't we have 2 extra wild card teams per league this year? That will dilute the standings a bit.

1 extra wild card per league.

AL East is up for grabs as much as is kills me to say it. I could see Jays, Rays, Red Sox, or Yankees win it.
 

kizphilly

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NL East is completely up for grabs. While the Phillies may have had a lock on it for a few years they certainly do not now. IMO it looks like first place may very well be a team with only 92-98 wins. I only say this because I believe the NL East teams are all kinda sub par and will probably knock each other around all year long depending on who is hot at the time.



Also, Someone correct me if I'm wrong, But don't we have 2 extra wild card teams per league this year? That will dilute the standings a bit.
na just 1 but they should of keep the way it is
 

Amaximus

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Ahh one each league ok. I wasn't even sure if it was implemented yet.

I don't know how I feel about it right now. They have tweaked the league so much the past few years and I still haven't gotten used to that. I liked it when first place = playoffs. second place 1/2 game behind? SORRY CHARLIE. Should've won that extra game back in April!
 

kizphilly

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Ahh one each league ok. I wasn't even sure if it was implemented yet.

I don't know how I feel about it right now. They have tweaked the league so much the past few years and I still haven't gotten used to that. I liked it when first place = playoffs. second place 1/2 game behind? SORRY CHARLIE. Should've won that extra game back in April!
yeah i liked it that way to either you win are ur out it makes the regular season games more intresting and if the phillies lost it would really be sorry charlie lol
 

hornedfrog2000

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It's all about money. They just want more playoff game revenue. It makes a 162 game season kind of silly if they are going to do 1 game playoffs for some of these teams.
 

Amaximus

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It's all about money. They just want more playoff game revenue. It makes a 162 game season kind of silly if they are going to do 1 game playoffs for some of these teams.
I can't say I can argue with you at all on that one.

Bud Selig said that he wanted to create the excitement that a game 7 brings with it. No one told him that to have a game 7 you need 6 other games before it.

The bottom line is more teams in the playoffs means more fans (ie: markets) are interested for a longer time. Don't get me wrong, As a baseball fan I still watch these one game playoffs and extra wild card series and sometimes they are truly exciting. other times? Not so much. You cant create the uncreatable, you can only give it more chances to happen. (LMAO, That either was prophetic or the panderings of a lunatic!)

I just hope they can refrain from expanding the regular season beyond 162 like they have been talking about for years. We play baseball for 6 months I don't think we need more.
 

hornedfrog2000

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I can't say I can argue with you at all on that one.

Bud Selig said that he wanted to create the excitement that a game 7 brings with it. No one told him that to have a game 7 you need 6 other games before it.

The bottom line is more teams in the playoffs means more fans (ie: markets) are interested for a longer time. Don't get me wrong, As a baseball fan I still watch these one game playoffs and extra wild card series and sometimes they are truly exciting. other times? Not so much. You cant create the uncreatable, you can only give it more chances to happen. (LMAO, That either was prophetic or the panderings of a lunatic!)

I just hope they can refrain from expanding the regular season beyond 162 like they have been talking about for years. We play baseball for 6 months I don't think we need more.
It just sucks that they have 162 games for a team to show they are 6 games better than another, and then they play that team in a one game playoff and lose. It makes the whole season a joke. They might as well play 81 games if they are going to do a 1 game playoff. Any team can beat any other team in one game, whether they are better or not is another issue.
 

Amaximus

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Yeah, Yeah, It's kind of hard to disagree with you guys! Sounds like we have a bunch of purists here, My kinda people.
 

hornedfrog2000

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hmmm. gonna have to put that on right now. As much as I love Lincecum I don't see that guy aging well with that fucked up mechanics he's rocking.
 

mccumcumber

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Looks like April is gonna be a slump month for Lincecum... sigh... Oh well Bumgarner and Cain should do some damage to the phillies.
 

Amaximus

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It's going to be a rough 2012 for the SF Giants regardless of how good their pitching is if they can't score any runs. Philly is discovering this about themselves this year, But at least they have a better lineup and reinforcements coming back throughout the year. Unless SF starts pumping more roids into Bonds and re-sign him they wont be scoring much miore than 1-3 runs a game.
 
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