GrowLab 80 - G13 Pineapple Express ... [200w T5 veg / 400w HPS flower]

Gastanker

Gastanker

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Ah, kelp, the wonder treatment. I'm thinking of writing one of my genetics papers on the precursor of ethylene, 1-Aminocyclopropane-l- carboxylic Acid (ACC), which is found in kelp. Yeah for natural plant growth regulators! :)
 
Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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I seriously attribute a lot of awesomeness of my nuggets to the kelp.. Call me crazy but I feel like it really denses up those nuggets, really gets the plant going at full efficiency. It's almost like greasing the gears..

And I'm glad you are so well educated in the area of kelp gastanker :).. I don't know a lot about the chemistry, I just know there are literally dozens of different enzymes acids and growth auxins.. Helps my roots grow, blows up my foliage, and keeps my flowers tight, dense, and heavy... Whats not to love?

Stuff like kelp is what makes me continually lean more into organics, and soil over hydroponics... Why would I want to add a bunch of chemicals to a water tank, when I could add natural things like batshit, worm shit, and kelp in my soil to get fat frosty oil covered nuggets. :) Makes me really take pride in my crop too, when I know I'm using natural things like kelp sourced across the world. :)
 
Gastanker

Gastanker

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Organics give me a boner. To be honest I know near nothing about kelp which is why I want to write my paper on it :) Hearing too much good stuff to be out of the loop. I'll share as I learn.
 
Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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Are you using kelp at least? :)

I first heard it was a quiet garden secret, so I quietly employed it and studied it - now I love it and shout such declarations from the top of my lungs for all to hear :). Figureatively. :)
 
Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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Do you add that to your soil mix before you plant? I considered adding the powdered kelp and some other stuff to my soil before I plant. :)


grow note: fed today with 15mL big bloom, 5mL grow big, 5mL bio weed, 4mL cal-mag.. pH @ 6.5
 
Gastanker

Gastanker

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Yes, it all gets amended directly into the soil. I really should start spraying with a kelp/alfalfa meal tea as well though. In the soil you get all of the NPK as well as the PGRs but the PGRs to a lesser degree and more slowly than foliar feeding. On the other hand foliar feeding delivers pretty much zero of the NPK (unless aerated with bennies for long periods of time at a fairly stable warm temp pre use), but delivers the PGRs very efficiently. Although I've been seeing this weird "100% water soluble" premineralized kelp meal recently. It costs a fortune though; ~$20/lb versus the regular stuff which is $1.20/lb.
 
Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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I've never been much of a foliar sprayer besides the occasional kelp or cal mag.. I'm going to have to check out some of your journals though a little more in depth now :)
 
Gastanker

Gastanker

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Uh oh, another possible critic :) if interested, my last decent grow is summarized on post #740, or the bottom of page 74 at 10 posts per page (duh). After that was my move and now I'm just starting up again with things a bit different.
 
C.Indica

C.Indica

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My headbands froze when Itopped them, and I left twice as much foliage asyou did.
My #2 turned out male, My #1 (Looks like your #2) is afemale.

Got two midget overflow clones test flowering.
Just because Ihad the spare CFLs from ages past haha.
 
Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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Gastanker said:
Uh oh, another possible critic :) if interested, my last decent grow is summarized on post #740, or the bottom of page 74 at 10 posts per page (duh). After that was my move and now I'm just starting up again with things a bit different.
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Nah not a critic! I'm down with it... Just personally I don't have enough time to devote to mixing up foliar sprays, and hitting them with lights off.. Also, I don't have enough plants :) I only get through like 1/8 of a liter and my plants are wet :lol:

C.Indica said:
My headbands froze when Itopped them, and I left twice as much foliage asyou did.
My #2 turned out male, My #1 (Looks like your #2) is afemale.

Got two midget overflow clones test flowering.
Just because Ihad the spare CFLs from ages past haha.
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Dang I'm sorry.. Good luck on the female... Worst comes to worse you should just pick up some feminized seeds..reserva privada headband ----- I strongly approve.. The medication is SUPER strong, super skunky.!
 
Gastanker

Gastanker

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wow, that must have been some root structure under those juvenile leaves because they just went crazy in the past week and a half.
 
Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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I sort of forgot about them for a few days.. They were pretty dry when I got back from a 2 day camping trip! Love to know while your out there in the mountains, they're in the tent under the lights... Growin' :)


The kelp DOES do wonders for the roots, and the amount of growth. Especially at the inital stages!

I foliar fed #2 today, and tried not to spray #1.. Hopefully that will give #2 an edge to catch up with #1! I must blame gastanker for my decision to foliar spray them with kelp :).
 
C.Indica

C.Indica

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Man I just cant find it in me to top anymore after stunting those headbands.
I've decided I'd ratherjust grow shit straight up..
 
Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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I don't know what would have happened that stunted your headbands... I mean you were dealing with bagseed but it's a plant.. It should recover after you remove growth just like any other plant.. I did it with my chili peppers this year and even they were fine.
 
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JHock08

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Question for Sr. Verde, how long or how much growth did you let pass before you started your regular nute schedule? Thanks.
 
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