trayvan martin

[wyteberrywidow]

Dude, George Zimmerman isn't a big guy. I think he could have done fine without the gun, but people still think Trayvon was a little kid. He wasn't. Definitely not half the size of zimmerman. I could beat Zimmerman's ass with one hand.


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Lmao well whatever now.. I still think Zimmerman needs to be dealt with!

 

[cliffey501]

Lmao well whatever now.. I still think Zimmerman needs to be dealt with!

Burn him at the stake!!!!!

 

[cliffey501]

you have zero faith in yourself . . . .and you have zero faith in life .. . . .you have given up . . . let the rest of us live in peace and stay in your lane

Actually the only thing I do have faith in is myself.I also have faith in life, my own life and I would protect it to the fullest.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

so with your logic punishment cant be just it has to be nothing or his life dead at the stake . .. . there is somthing called due process he will get a fair shake . . . .and if they cant prove he was negligent then he wil get off. . . .and if they do he will serve out his time . . . .

and your above statement proves my point . .. . . . you dont care about anything . . .and i doubt you care about yourself at all . . . .just going through the emotions

your post ooze insecurity . . . have fun with that

 

[cliffey501]

so with your logic punishment cant be just it has to be nothing or his life dead at the stake . .. . there is somthing called due process he will get a fair shake . . . .and if they cant prove he was negligent then he wil get off. . . .and if they do he will serve out his time . . . .

and your above statement proves my point . .. . . . you dont care about anything . . .and i doubt you care about yourself at all . . . .just going through the emotions

your post ooze insecurity . . . have fun with that

Now he deserves a fair shake? A couple post ago you said he stalked little skittles and then shot him down in cold blood.Make up your mind.Ive been saying look at the facts the whole time.You people were the ones saying how it was a racist cover up or a conflict of interest or Papa zimmy connections and every other thing imaginable.Except the obvious,self defense.

 

[Harrekin]

Its funny to see people get so polarised and butthurt when noone actually knows what happened except Zimmerman and a corpse.

Its all speculation at this point folks, chill out, give your opinion, argue why its valid, etc and just put the handbags DOWN!

 

[really comfy slippers]

Its funny to see people get so polarised and butthurt when noone actually knows what happened except Zimmerman and a corpse.

Its all speculation at this point folks, chill out, give your opinion, argue why its valid, etc and just put the handbags DOWN!

What do you not understand? Georgio pursued a young man and killed him. He's not a police officer, and even if he was.... He wasn't jumped and mugged out of his truck. He stepped on Trayvans ground.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Now he deserves a fair shake? A couple post ago you said he stalked little skittles and then shot him down in cold blood.Make up your mind.Ive been saying look at the facts the whole time.You people were the ones saying how it was a racist cover up or a conflict of interest or Papa zimmy connections and every other thing imaginable.Except the obvious,self defense.

ya he murdered martin, or shot him or indirectly cause the premature expiration of his life, released his mortal coil . . . . . . . and i think he deserves his fair shake at our justice system . .. . .how is that hard to understand . . . .. .your a joke

and i never once said anything of the sort about the cover up . . .. .if i stated stats of previous grievances of the police department involving african americans then they are just that statistics . . . .you meld one statement into another statement and call them the same . . . . and if i state that zimmerman got away with violent crimes in the past and theorize that he had influence from his father . .. .then it is just that a theory not a conspiracy go read some check out line tabloids for you BS

you really put the ASS in assumption dont you chump

 

[Harrekin]

What do you not understand? Georgio pursued a young man and killed him. He's not a police officer, and even if he was.... He wasn't jumped and mugged out of his truck. He stepped on Trayvans ground.

Dude in fairness, there is ALWAYS mitigating circumstances, and given such combined with our lack of actual evidence of what happened, we simply have to try surmise what happened. And anyone thats over 5 years of age knows that sometimes there is a stack of reasons that added together give an unexpected and difficult to explain situation.

Given that I dont know beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman is a racist, bloodthirsty murderer, Im going to side with 75% believing him and 25% dont quite know, because the guys head is on the line, wouldnt you like the same chance? Even if it was a 1,000,000,000,000 to 1 chance its true?

 

[really comfy slippers]

C'mon man, Can we atleast admit he stepped out of his truck with Trayvan in mind? I'm talking reason here.

 

[Harrekin]

C'mon man, Can we atleast admit he stepped out of his truck with Trayvan in mind? I'm talking reason here.

Yeah but the jump to "Im-a gonna kill that ******" is quite the huge leap.

 

[doc111]

dispatch: are you following him?

zimmerboy: yeah.

zimmerboy followed trayvon first in his truck, then on foot for a considerable distance. he picked the fight. so you've got it wrong before you even begin.

you assumption is that the black kid should have known his place. even if some dude who is bigger than you and 10 years older than you is stalking you in his vehicle and then on foot.

i can tell you that if i were walking home from the store through the park, and some guy followed me in his truck and then on foot through the park for 100 yards or so, i would feel threatened and get ready to defend myself if need be.

Folllowing someone is NOT an invitation or justification to be attacked physically. What is at the crux of this is whether or not Trayvon attacked George, physically, first. In the absence of video or eyewitness testimony, we can only speculate. Following someone, however, does not give you the right to invoke "self defense" or "stand your ground". I'm no lawyer though, so we'll see what happens I suppose.

 

[cliffey501]

ya he murdered martin, or shot him or indirectly cause the premature expiration of his life, released his mortal coil . . . . . . . and i think he deserves his fair shake at our justice system . .. . .how is that hard to understand . . . .. .your a joke

and i never once said anything of the sort about the cover up . . .. .if i stated stats of previous grievances of the police department involving african americans then they are just that statistics . . . .you meld one statement into another statement and call them the same . . . . and if i state that zimmerman got away with violent crimes in the past and theorize that he had influence from his father . .. .then it is just that a theory not a conspiracy go read some check out line tabloids for you BS

you really put the ASS in assumption dont you chump

Really? I might have been mistaken.

its really a lesson in denial what people can convince themselves of with the absence of a real explanation vs a rendition of a corrupt individual and a corrupt police force with a history of bending the truth and breaking the law


i base my opinions on morals and loose facts

desert guy would change his tune tomorrow if the papers told him too

sheep

how is him pursuing martin standing his ground?

look at the other cases of police abuse of power . . . its called a pattern and cops are just as narcissistic and egotistical and corrupt as a 29 yr old unemployed wife beater with a history of getting off the hook . . . .. for no reason but his dad is connected with the local PD and courts

whats this new article i just heard about from my gf that Z
s lawyer has dropped him cause they cant find him . . . ..who runs when they are innocent?

no wonder

i know why you dont explain yourself more often . . . .you make no sense when you try and rationalize your opinions

based on the lastest update that validate your assumptions

like a leaf on the wind or a bug on the surface of the river at the whim of the elements . . ..

i don think the cops made a discussion to botch the investigation . . .they jsut did nothing to actually investigate

lack or effort is not proof of intent

but lack of professionalism is proof of thier lack of effort and negligence, which could be a sign of one sided justice and bigotry

being a judge you dont think he would have in interest in his sons affairs . . . . . .give me a break

now who is incompetent

how do you get away with repeated violent offenses including wife battery and have a concealed weapons permit as well as be allowed to have a small amount of responsibility , not authority , as neighborhood watch member

im not sure if you have ever been in the system but once your in your fucked unless you have money of influence which Z has none of . . .but daddy has some influence

ever wonder why there are no pics of his messed up face , well the obvious answer since the cops were his friends are that it never happened

desert dude if you have even ever bash someones face into concrete you will know that it causes a lot of damage

im talking cuts, bruises and normally big gaping wounds where the pressure from the impact broke/cut open the face and well leaves a bloody mess

you dont ever wonder after something like this happens . . . . it obvious

how can you spout hearsay and probable scenarios as facts, here is my scenerio his cop friends let him know he needed to be injured to support his claims as there was no actual evidence other than hearsay and eye witness and ear witness accounts which are not very reliable , so he did it himself and they took there time collecting evidense so to let him slide a little

small town inbreed cops and city officials . . . . .. does me saying it make it any more plausible . . . nope

the only facts are what was recorded and what happened . . . . . .anything else is just a mad dash to try and excuse his behavior, where are the pictures of clothes and cuts?

i really am just flabbergasted, he stalked an innocent man and shot him when the man stood his ground wtf

how does anything else matter

 

[londonfog]

911- are you following him

Zimmerbutt- Yes

911- umm we don't need you to do that

Zimmerass- OK

end result was Zimmerman was no where near his truck, but instead standing over a dead body. If Zimmerwoman would have stop following at the point he said OK... he would have been in his truck. Now good luck trying to defend that with the lame excuse that 911 does not have authority to tell you what to do. It only points out the fact that indeed Zimmer was following innocent Trayvon deeming Zim the aggressor. Too bad Zimmercon did not kill him next to the truck. He might stand a chance then.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

that is a great synopsis of me sharing my opinion and the reasons why . . . .good collection of post . .. . . . . . you really are the weakest link

you can find em but you cant read and comprehend them . . . . go ahead and highlight anything you feel is subject and ill explain the context as they are responses to different post or i can eat my words . . . . .lets see if you can actually apply yourself vs copy and paste

some of those go back pretty far . . .your such a loser . . . lol . .. how long did it take you to compile a list of post that pretty much match what i said in the first and most recent quoted post

lmfao . . . . .you can lead a horse to water but you can t make em drink

 

[cliffey501]

911- are you following him

Zimmerbutt- Yes

911- umm we don't need you to do that

Zimmerass- OK

end result was Zimmerman was no where near his truck, but instead standing over a dead body. If Zimmerwoman would have stop following at the point he said OK... he would have been in his truck. Now good luck trying to defend that with the lame excuse that 911 does not have authority to tell you what to do. It only points out the fact that indeed Zimmer was following innocent Trayvon deeming Zim the aggressor. Too bad Zimmercon did not kill him next to the truck. He might stand a chance then.

He was out of the truck when he was talking to 911.After he hung up he started heading back to his truck.

 

[cliffey501]

that is a great synopsis of me sharing my opinion and the reasons why . . . .good collection of post . .. . . . . . you really are the weakest link

you can find em but you cant read and comprehend them . . . . go ahead and highlight anything you feel is subject and ill explain the context as they are responses to different post or i can eat my words . . . . .lets see if you can actually apply yourself vs copy and paste

some of those go back pretty far . . .your such a loser . . . lol . .. how long did it take you to compile a list of post that pretty much match what i said in the first and most recent quoted post

lmfao . . . . .you can lead a horse to water but you can t make em drink

Edited my OP.You were implying it was some sort of scandal between zimmermans cop "friends" and zimmermans dads clout as a judge.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

how do you get multiple violent charges including battery repeatadly over years and not get in trouble .. . . . . .hmm . . .. .

and you underline one part of things i say you take things out of context like a retarded reporter trying to make a head line . . .. . keep spining

and ya i thoerize with reasonable explanations that his father has had some involvment in his legal history and getting of the hook

and the scenerio i wrote about the police helping Z . . .read one line down as it is continued into a puase then the eplanation of "is it true becuase i say it , nope" as a response to DD pretty much making up what happened to coincide with the last episode of CSI he saw

your 20 minuets of sleuthing yielded one redaction . . .i said his dad is connected to the locals . . nad that is a little over board his only connection is through is sons dubious actions
" well the obvious answer since the cops were his friends are that it never happened" that should be wellthe obvios answer is the cops were his friends or that it never happened"

and that very well could be wrong, good job 2 redactions
epic fail for cliffy

you explanation that Z went back to his car after he hung up doesnt make sense unless martin is the Mr.Fantastic as he was 100+ yards away from martin . . . .the time frame doesnt really work out

as they would have had to go to the car and then 100 yards back to get to the spot on the grass he was on . . or that when zimerman got off the phone and chases martin to shoot him

either way your a tard

zimmerboy hung up at 7:14.

martin was on a call until 7:16 when it suddenly ended.

the cops were there at 7:17.

you are so clueless that i have to laugh at you.

2 min to walk back to car even though Martin was ahead of him . . how did martin attack him from behind and then in a minute run a 100 yards while bashing zimmermans head into the ground while moving 100 yards . . .. remmeber your thoery says martin was the agressor which means martin would have had to be agressing toward zimmerman and nothing you say makes any sense to support Z's story or your own

 

[cliffey501]

how do you get multiple violent charges including battery repeatadly over years and not get in trouble .. . . . . .hmm . . .. .

and you underline one part of things i say you take things out of context like a retarded reporter trying to make a head line . . .. . keep spining

and ya i thoerize with reasonable explanations that his father has had some involvment in his legal history and getting of the hook

and the scenerio i wrote about the police helping Z . . .read on line down as it is continued in to a puase then the eplanation of "is it true becuase i say it , nope" as a response to DD pretty much making up what happened to coincide with the last episode of CSI he saw

epic fail

And thats what you were stating happened in this case too.You and uncle buck were back and forth about it lol.What multiple violent charges? He was charge with resisting arrest and battery of an officer which he had lessened and then waived altogether after he completed his conditions.He took some deal available to first time offenders.All first time offenders not just judges kids.The domestic dispute thing was a civil matter never criminal.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

the difference between us is my thoeries are just theories with explanation using loose facts . . . . and i know the closet thing to the truth will be shown soon .. . . .i base the right and wrong of there actions on context and morales . . . .there was no need to prfile Martin and no need to confront him as the cops were there within a few min

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