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Illegal Smile
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I've heard people here claim they get 2.5 grams per watt. I'm not saying I believe it. Not everyone is trying to maximize grams/watt, but it seems to me that among those who are, more and more are getting one g/w. More realistic and probably a good average is.5 g/w. On the other hand, I don't believe any of what I read and only half of what I see around here.
phillipchristian
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I've never seen or even heard of 2.5g per watt. I saw a Heath Robinson thread where he got 2.2gpw on a vertical stadium grow. That's probably the best I've ever seen. I don't think 2gpw is even possible on a horizontal grow. You just don't have the footprint. I never used to calculate gpw before joining this site. Everyone here seems to live by it. I always just calculated zips per plant. Now that I started using gpw I think on a horizontal grow anyting 1gpw or over is considered solid. I'm usually around 1gpw. I've gotten as high as 1.2gpw
Warlock1369
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.4 gpw is a good pull. I got that on my last and hope to get .6-.8 this sence I didn't rush and nute burn them. But still .4 I'm happy. But yes it is possible to get 2.5 gpw but that's a ton of time and training. Not my style. Veg top and top. Flower let it grow. 14 weeks start to finish.
i'm also like that. I read everything with a filter and sort out the good and the bad.I've heard people here claim they get 2.5 grams per watt. I'm not saying I believe it. Not everyone is trying to maximize grams/watt, but it seems to me that among those who are, more and more are getting one g/w. More realistic and probably a good average is.5 g/w. On the other hand, I don't believe any of what I read and only half of what I see around here.
Hey phil, nice seeing you again. hey i made a feeding chart would you like to review it? i would love 1gpw
A lot of growers i know set this to their standard as well.. But i'm an over achiever. I don't that mere .5 gpw, so im on here trying to learn to be better.I would say .5 gram per watt is a good standard... If you can do better it means your doing something right
do you have a link to anyone stating they are getting 2.5 gpw. that's more then 5 pounds per light. i personally don't believe it.
phillipchristian
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What up Black. Send me over the feeding schedule. Would love to take a look at it.
You can get 2.5gpw for sure. You can't get it on a horizontal light setup though. You would need a vertical bare bulb stadium grow. Bunch of plants on racks in a circle around a bare bulb. Really hard to do but not impossible. There is a thread in here by Heath Robinson where he got 2.2gpw I think. Here's a link...(https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/149998-heaths-flooded-tube-vertical.html)
You can get 2.5gpw for sure. You can't get it on a horizontal light setup though. You would need a vertical bare bulb stadium grow. Bunch of plants on racks in a circle around a bare bulb. Really hard to do but not impossible. There is a thread in here by Heath Robinson where he got 2.2gpw I think. Here's a link...(https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/149998-heaths-flooded-tube-vertical.html)
You don't necessarily need a bare bulb................a vertical cooltube can pull some pretty high numbers as well
And a stadium grow isn't as efficient as a proper circular VSOG (think "Coliseum" or "Cage")...........with some stacked 600s even a shitty grower could pull of some decent yields.
phillipchristian
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Bare bulb in a vertical setup is much better than cooltubes if you are going for yield. In a stadium grow you only have 1 light (maybe 2 but that is a waste) so the cooling needs are significant. So usually growers go bare bulb to reduce footcandle and PAR value loss through cooltube glass.You don't necessarily need a bare bulb................a vertical cooltube can pull some pretty high numbers as well
And a stadium grow isn't as efficient as a proper circular VSOG (think "Coliseum" or "Cage")...........with some stacked 600s even a shitty grower could pull of some decent yields.
A "coliseum" or "cage" is basically the same thing as a stadium grow. different names for the same thing. you could have plants along the floor but this would make getting in the space virtually impossible. I've been around a long time and I don't see anyone pulling much more than 2.5gpw the way that Heath did in his thread. If you have info or pics of a more efficient way then please share.
I've got to humbly disagree.
A stadium grow is akin to a Northern Farmer type deal, where there are angled racks and plants are differing lengths from the bulb(s) in a V shape.
A Coliseum grow is where there is a cylinder of plants stacked on top of each other, equidistant from a column of lights. Not sure why you think that more than one light is wasteful, I've really got to disagree with that - the more lights you have the closer you get to line source light (where the intensity diminishes at 1/r) vs. point source light, where the intensity diminishes by 1/r^2.
Bare bulbs are fine, but I supplement with CO2 and have found that for my particular setup, cooltubes are the way to go - that doesn't mean that they're right for everyone, but I've tried both and much prefer my cooltube. Also hard to stack 4 bare bulbed 600s as closely as I have my lights together (only three are on at any one time).
And I'm not pulling anywhere near 2.5g/w, but below are some pics of my setup - 90 plants surrounding a column of 4 600s (only three on at any time, changing hourly to mimic a light mover).
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A stadium grow is akin to a Northern Farmer type deal, where there are angled racks and plants are differing lengths from the bulb(s) in a V shape.
A Coliseum grow is where there is a cylinder of plants stacked on top of each other, equidistant from a column of lights. Not sure why you think that more than one light is wasteful, I've really got to disagree with that - the more lights you have the closer you get to line source light (where the intensity diminishes at 1/r) vs. point source light, where the intensity diminishes by 1/r^2.
Bare bulbs are fine, but I supplement with CO2 and have found that for my particular setup, cooltubes are the way to go - that doesn't mean that they're right for everyone, but I've tried both and much prefer my cooltube. Also hard to stack 4 bare bulbed 600s as closely as I have my lights together (only three are on at any one time).
And I'm not pulling anywhere near 2.5g/w, but below are some pics of my setup - 90 plants surrounding a column of 4 600s (only three on at any time, changing hourly to mimic a light mover).
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ArabKush
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i've grown in soil, one plant under 400w hps, yield was 88grams or 3.1 ounces
according to GPW its .22 gpw,
but to me , it lasted till the next harvest and more , so am happy even though .22 looks bad
see pics , first few are 4weeks into flower, then 8 weeks
http://imageshack.us/g/705/p1110758k.jpg/ click slide show top left
harvest pics
according to GPW its .22 gpw,
but to me , it lasted till the next harvest and more , so am happy even though .22 looks bad
see pics , first few are 4weeks into flower, then 8 weeks
http://imageshack.us/g/705/p1110758k.jpg/ click slide show top left
harvest pics
AWnox
Active Member
Best yield I have ever gotten was one of my recent ones; here's the specs:
-Medium: Hydroton in a GH Waterfarm. 2 Micro-pore air stones with 2 100 Gal pumps for perfect aeration. She was LST tied down since day 10.
-Lights: 1 250W 1 100W MH for veg and 1 400W SHPS for flowering. 18/6 while veg and 12/12 flowering.
-Space: Little; 24x20x70 2 fans
-Strain: Ice from Royal Queen
-Nutrients: Complete Line GH nutrients
-YIELD: Juts over 4 ounces dried bud (top shelf) and about 6-10 grams of compressed hash.
I definitely recommend that strain. Super resilient but very sensitive to nutrients. Careful feeding her.
-Medium: Hydroton in a GH Waterfarm. 2 Micro-pore air stones with 2 100 Gal pumps for perfect aeration. She was LST tied down since day 10.
-Lights: 1 250W 1 100W MH for veg and 1 400W SHPS for flowering. 18/6 while veg and 12/12 flowering.
-Space: Little; 24x20x70 2 fans
-Strain: Ice from Royal Queen
-Nutrients: Complete Line GH nutrients
-YIELD: Juts over 4 ounces dried bud (top shelf) and about 6-10 grams of compressed hash.
I definitely recommend that strain. Super resilient but very sensitive to nutrients. Careful feeding her.
.4gpw is not a "Good pull"
my first harvest i pulled .7 gpw,
after the 10th one im up to 1.2gpw with two 1000's.
it's really all about you, how much you read and research, Anyone can do ANything its all up to the person,
i laugh in people faces when they think .5 is the "standard"
no your doing something really wrong, either in the room design, or something is wrong with you,
but thats not good at ALL
my first harvest i pulled .7 gpw,
after the 10th one im up to 1.2gpw with two 1000's.
it's really all about you, how much you read and research, Anyone can do ANything its all up to the person,
i laugh in people faces when they think .5 is the "standard"
no your doing something really wrong, either in the room design, or something is wrong with you,
but thats not good at ALL
mountainboy
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Well we cant all be as good as you,so why don't you lend a hand in helping people achieve better results instead of telling people how sucky they are. These sites should be for sharing and gaining knowledge. If we all where master growers we wouldnt need sites like this. I know when I sign in,most of the time I'm looking for answers or to gain knowledge of different tech stuff. Comments like yours only undermine the confidence of fellow growers and as I see it that is bad for all of us.We need to stick together as a community and help each other out. This isnt a pissing match,if you do better then others share your knowledge and offer advise.You will gain much more respect from others,I will mention AL B. FUCT as an example. He is brutally honest in his opinions,but is a well of knowledge and he shares it with all who ask. In fact I think he puts in about 40hrs a week on this site just to help others out. MY 2 cents.
tenthirty
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.5 grams a watt is doing pretty damn good in my book, especially if the girls look healthy at the end.
I remember reading Al b. talking about going from a lb to 1.5 lbs per run.
As far as I can see, there are only a hand full of people that consistently get over 1g/w and that includes commercial grows.
IMHO, It takes a lot of cycles to get really good, that is unless you were born with some kind of gift, and that case I'm jealous.
I remember reading Al b. talking about going from a lb to 1.5 lbs per run.
As far as I can see, there are only a hand full of people that consistently get over 1g/w and that includes commercial grows.
IMHO, It takes a lot of cycles to get really good, that is unless you were born with some kind of gift, and that case I'm jealous.
Sencha
Active Member
I just pulled exactly .5/watt of light with 3 plants under a 600. It just got put into jars today. I'm very happy, to say the least. I'd like to post pics. Maybe someday.
Custom NFT/Aero setup
Dinafem Critical +, 7 week veg from clone
Veg. nutes: DynaGrow(every 2 weeks, Liquid Karma)
Bloom nutes: Botanicare CNS17 for hydro, Hydroplex at week 3 and 6, tap water and molasses week 4,5, and the last week(I didn't use the molasses for beni's, I used it as carbo load and in the end to flush salts.)
I'm switching to coco for a run to see how it compares. I'll use all the same nutes, substituting the CNS17 hydro for CNS17 for Coco.
Custom NFT/Aero setup
Dinafem Critical +, 7 week veg from clone
Veg. nutes: DynaGrow(every 2 weeks, Liquid Karma)
Bloom nutes: Botanicare CNS17 for hydro, Hydroplex at week 3 and 6, tap water and molasses week 4,5, and the last week(I didn't use the molasses for beni's, I used it as carbo load and in the end to flush salts.)
I'm switching to coco for a run to see how it compares. I'll use all the same nutes, substituting the CNS17 hydro for CNS17 for Coco.
400wattsallday
Active Member
i just pulled 6.7zips of a 400watt from 3 plants, but i had space from about 3 more plants but i had 3 males. whats my grams pre watt?
Tranceus
Active Member
i think i was born with a gift either that or it runs in the blood, everything i put in the ground or in hydro grows its just rediculous. idk why but it seems like i can feel exactly what my plants need and are asking for, even from my first grow outdoors almost 10 years ago.
.5 grams a watt is doing pretty damn good in my book, especially if the girls look healthy at the end.
I remember reading Al b. talking about going from a lb to 1.5 lbs per run.
As far as I can see, there are only a hand full of people that consistently get over 1g/w and that includes commercial grows.
IMHO, It takes a lot of cycles to get really good, that is unless you were born with some kind of gift, and that case I'm jealous.
Yodadawanker
Member
Was talking to a Commercial grower, they go by by light for indoor 1 pound per light you here people mention Heath Robinson pulled stupid amount ??? he is a legend, one thing we all got to realize the internet is full of BS and full of truth take this all by common sense, takes a shit load of buds to make a pound even to pull half a pound that is like 900 grams wet and when a experienced grower see's a plant on RIU and someone claiming they pulled more it comes obvious there one of them Bs'ers