Hormones vs Co2 - Hormones Cheaper Potentially Yeild the Same!

[polyarcturus]

What's the difference? Synthetic (hydro) is commonly known as providing nutes through water. Organics is commonly known as providing them through dirt. Other than that they are the same. Same nutrients, just suspended in a different environment.
Plant hormones (phytohormones) are largely movable but I suspect, judging from your previous posts that you are confusing them with nutrients, of which some are highly movable (Nitrogen for example) and some far less so (calcium for example)
Poly, I don't wish to knock you but only wish to help you to the next level.

well the major difference between organic growing and synthetic growing the the way nutrients are formed in organic growing nutrients are obtained thru other organisms by products in addition the natural already available forms. in synthetics we provide the nutrients in a form that can be directly used by the plants bypassing the need for organisms.

as for hormones being moveable you will find they are very mobile and they work in ways very similar to nutrients. some hormones are locale, but most are moveable. either created in the roots and transferred to the leaves and upper growth, or created in the leaves and upper growth and transferred to the roots.

another thing i though photo hoormone where a local hormone that didnt move?

 

[slump]

Bad why?? Enlighten me with data, or atleast anecdotal evidence equivalent to mine..

Enlightening link: http://www.marijuanagrowershq.com/plant-growth-regulators-poison-marijuana/

Grow Safe!

 

[polyarcturus]

Enlightening link: http://www.marijuanagrowershq.com/plant-growth-regulators-poison-marijuana/

Grow Safe!

as good of a read as that was, they really didn't answer any questions, they say it MAY be a carcinogen but the testing has not been done. so in other words the testing hasn't been done. without those results from a lab somewhere we will probably never know how dangerous or safe they are.

 

[Gore]

When my Grandparents were of child bearing age it was socially acceptable for pregnant women to smoke tobacco, and even drink to some degree. It was understood that smoking was bad for you, despite what the tobacco company said at the time. People knew it was bad but they didn't understand how bad. I can't help but wonder if radiation emissions from cell phones might be the second hand smoke of my generation. My point is; do you need the government to tell you it's harmful before you stop doing it? It's this soggy minded logic that fuels much of the liberal agenda, costs tax payers millions and leads to implementation of some of the most ridiculous laws.

@ polyarcturus

The USDA, EPA and FDA have decided this chemical and others like it are dangerous to humans, this has lead to a ban of it's use in commercial agriculture. Really? you require more 'proof' that it's bad? This is exactly the type foolishness that leads to the requirement of frivolous unnecessary legislation. When did people become so stupid that we needed laws to prevent them from killing themselves?

In an earlier version of my article I took a stronger stance in regard the further testing being required by the EPA but my editor suggested I refrain. Perhaps here i will share this idea; There is further testing required to determine the exact impact that PGRs have on combusted consumables. Testing of this type is expensive, who in the hell do you imagine wants to pay for this? I assure you that it will not be the tobacco company's. So, because I am not a chemist I will adhere to the guidelines established for consumable food crops and apply them, where logical to marijuana as well. One commonly over looked mistake made by growers is application of products indicating safety in spray up to the day of harvest. Marijuana unlike tomatoes or cucumbers can not be washed prior to consumption. These products, seemingly harmless, products even from SAFER brand will leave potentialy dangerous residue on your medicine.

I'm excited that marijuana testing facility's like steep hill and SC labs exist, they didn't always. We used to grow in the stone age, this industry has come so far, lets make use of the wealth of information that is so readily available to us. The truth is, these PGRs are not a secret weight boosting agent. They can make marijuana plants do some very irregular things that in some cases can prove advantageous to the grower, but at what cost? They will not increase THC or CBD content, they will not speed maturation. The just aren't worth gambling your or someone else health on.

I encourage readers to study this page;
http://www.integralhydro.com/flowerdragon.html
I sourced some information from it.

 

[polyarcturus]

tooo many words for me to write to really get started in on this i just erased likr 5 paragraphs of shit im sure you unbderstand. but i agree with you about 90%, im just playing devils advocate. i personally would smoke hormone treated weed if i thought they(the grower) had reduced the health risk from smoking it as much as possible.

 

[Gore]

tooo many words for me to write to really get started in on this i just erased likr 5 paragraphs of shit im sure you unbderstand. but i agree with you about 90%, im just playing devils advocate. i personally would smoke hormone treated weed if i thought they(the grower) had reduced the health risk from smoking it as much as possible.

I'm sorry but I can't understand what your saying in the last line. Could you please explain in greater detail?

 

[born2killspam]

That link says there is no evidence that they are bad.. Beef is a suspected carcinogen..

 

[polyarcturus]

I'm sorry but I can't understand what your saying in the last line. Could you please explain in greater detail?

given grower had knowledge of the way the chemical worked, used proper timing to ensure its decayed by the time of consumption, or if it can be flushed out of the plans system ect.

 

[shaggyballs]

reviving a good thread

 

[jadashi]

Hey... Curious about the Plant Starter Vs La Femne... i cant really find the op ,eza's follow up...

Can it be used as a substitute for Le Femme and in what folair feed strengh?

I have always used Sensa spray as a saftey addition but timing active ingredients for general vigor and fruit is facinating stuff...

 

[waterdawg]

I posted on the hydro section last week with no responses re the use of Kinetin. I just added it to my res and was wondering if anyone had used it and what the results were? Unfortunantly I will be unable to do a real comparison as I have only two trays running and two strains. Also I screwed up the schedule and lighting (forgot to switch dimmer to 100% for weeks) and discovered this day after I added the stuff.

 

[ethabhae]

hey, i started to use
Naphthalene Acetamide and Naphthalene Acetic Acid solution and i took my random plants to dark room at first time.
i used the hormones for quick flowering. i miss smoking....

Grow log: little little into the middle
Strain: Unknown
Vegetative

Day 18

 

[Shock168]

Máte někdo pozitivní zkušenost s PGR? Škoda, že je tady mrtvý.