Hockey Anyone? Go CAPS!!!!!!!!!!!

Sunbiz1

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Dear Phoenix, you muthafuckers' are going down!.
[video=youtube;GAQs8lq6KJ8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAQs8lq6KJ8[/video]
 

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just like football once I post on here talking shit bout the penguins they come back and whoop the flyers ass lol.You wont hear no more predictions from me on here.
 

MixedMelodyMindBender

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Unbelievable how inconsistent punishments are in the NHL. I think if they can figure a way to make punishment transparent and consistent then a lot of the goon-like hockey playing with cease, and in that it will weed out the dirty players. That hit on hossa made me lose all respect for Torres, not that I had much for him to begin with, he's a serious repeat offender. The game needs to rid of these type of people who don't conform to the norm.

Apart from that, this has been one wild ride of a playoff season. I hope the dirty playing quiets down but I doubt it will. These playoffs are super INTENSE :)

I still think its up for grabs(minus Vancouver), and it could be any team. Hot damn I love the Kings beating up on Vancouver. I predicted another luongo meltdown and he rocks for fulfilling that one!

If your chicago, keep the pucks on mike smith's glove side. Ever goal scored this series has been on the glove side :)
 

sully

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Couldnt agree more Mixed, I always had the opinion that NHL officiating is the most inconsistent of all the sports, and it seems the NHL punishments follow suit. A little testiness and the occasional doneybrook is great, but that game between the pens and flyers took like 9 hours.
 

mindphuk

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Unbelievable how inconsistent punishments are in the NHL. I think if they can figure a way to make punishment transparent and consistent then a lot of the goon-like hockey playing with cease, and in that it will weed out the dirty players. That hit on hossa made me lose all respect for Torres, not that I had much for him to begin with, he's a serious repeat offender. The game needs to rid of these type of people who don't conform to the norm.

Apart from that, this has been one wild ride of a playoff season. I hope the dirty playing quiets down but I doubt it will. These playoffs are super INTENSE :)

I still think its up for grabs(minus Vancouver), and it could be any team. Hot damn I love the Kings beating up on Vancouver. I predicted another luongo meltdown and he rocks for fulfilling that one!

If your chicago, keep the pucks on mike smith's glove side. Ever goal scored this series has been on the glove side :)
Not sure why you think there's inconsistency while discussing Torres. There's been no decision yet, he met with Shanahan today, they will announce tomorrow. I personally think Shanny's been doing a good job. I know there's been some complaints about why one penalty deserves a suspension and not another, but I think it's clear what types of hits are dangerous and which ones are not. Obvious head hunting, boarding, leaving the feet, spearing. I haven't seen all of the suspensions but I am curious which ones you think were inconsistent.

I'm depressed, my Wings lost in 5. Trotz does a great job with these guys. They play positional hockey so well, they shut down guys like Datsyuk. Add that to the amazing play of Rinne and they have a good chance.

Flyers v. Pens has been a crazy series. Fleury finally came to play.
 

MixedMelodyMindBender

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Well, I don't personally believe there is in the case of Torres. I hope Shanahan can handle that properly. But, according to espn 98% of pollers on espn believe shanahan has been inconsistent in handing out punishments. He's even acknowledge it himself that at times, he can see how things seem all over the board. This guy gets a suspension but not this guy with that hit. Just like you said. If he don't care to explain why, then people are going to say his incapable of doing his job with integrity and consistency. I personally believe he's not the guy for the job. And if your a red wings fan, you know he's had a hard on for the red wings since he's had the job. Apart from all the political crap that I really don't feel like making a case for. I have no interest in making people believe what I say. Its my opinion. You have to make your own observations and formulate your own conclusions. I leave it at that. With that;

What hockey Nashville played. Never ever would have seen them taking wings in 5 games. Rinne is a beast. I could see him and nashville taking care of the rangers.

Pens vs Flyers has been the best series thus far in my opinion. Intense hockey at its finest and worst at times. I think pen's are a game late on this one tho. Fluery is hit or miss and I dont have much faith in his abilities any more.

LA Kings have been impressive also. I love watching epic luongo have another playoff melt down. In my opinion I think its between Nashville, Rangers, Kings. Its gonna be a screamer :)

*Little fact I just learned. This is the 3rd highest pen minutes in the history on the NHL. Yet look how few suspension were handed out. Tons of goon like hockey play cause they think they got chances to get away with it. Look how many concussions occured this year....not sure the statistics but its got to be top three of nhl history. Just saying, the inconsistency lies in their ability to spread punishment equally. Its like a justice for all wish. Not just for whomever shanny's thinks deserves it. And one thing is for sure, ALL PLAYERS are not happy with Shanny's performace this year. HOPEFULLY, the NHL rids of him!
 

shrxhky420

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Hey guys Torres got 25 games... carries over to next year and served only during regular season/playoff... he can not play during preseason. It's all about him lifting his skates off the ground. If he had lifted after the hit rather than before, different story. Tied for 2nd longest suspension.
Flyers forward Jesse Boulerice received a 25-game suspension in 2007 for a crosscheck to the face of the Canucks' Ryan Kesler.
Chris Simon's 30-game ban — which was the seventh suspension of his career — for stomping on the leg of the Penguins' Jarko Ruutu in 2007. that's some serious shit... lol

If the Sharks don't start playing some playoff hockey, they'll end their season tonight.
stay high go sharks
 

MixedMelodyMindBender

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A very well deserved 25 games. I was thinking more like a season but I think thats step three. three strikes and your out a season. In 1983 Ric Nattress was suspended a year for a failed urine analysis for .....cannabis. What kind of message has been sent over the years is, drugs are a huge no-no, but leaping hits to the head are not so bad because they happen more :) NHL is becoming a laughing stock. 95% of ESPN pollers believe Mr Shannahan should find another job. ( imo, one he is qualified to do)
 

shrxhky420

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Not sure why you think there's inconsistency while discussing Torres. There's been no decision yet, he met with Shanahan today, they will announce tomorrow. I personally think Shanny's been doing a good job. I know there's been some complaints about why one penalty deserves a suspension and not another, but I think it's clear what types of hits are dangerous and which ones are not. Obvious head hunting, boarding, leaving the feet, spearing. I haven't seen all of the suspensions but I am curious which ones you think were inconsistent.

I'm depressed, my Wings lost in 5. Trotz does a great job with these guys. They play positional hockey so well, they shut down guys like Datsyuk. Add that to the amazing play of Rinne and they have a good chance.

Flyers v. Pens has been a crazy series. Fleury finally came to play.
Losing 2 of your best... are we seeing the end of Detroit's dynasty??? stay high
 

mindphuk

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Losing 2 of your best... are we seeing the end of Detroit's dynasty??? stay high
Detroit's dynasty will not end due to the way they cultivate players in Grand Rapids and Toledo. They have a deep roster any way you look at it. People said things like that when we lost Yzerman and Federov. As long as we have owners and GMs that act smart, we will always be contenders.

@MMMB, I have no problem with your opinion. Like I said, I did not follow a lot of the suspensions during the regular season, which is why I asked for some specifics. I have a good friend that follows much more closely as he is in 2 fantasy leagues and has Center Ice package so all he does is watch hockey and play pinball. He agrees with your assessment so I have a hard time disagreeing with either of you especially after he went through a list of some of the specific incidents, most I didn't know about. I will have to plead ignorance and defer to your judgment.
 

MixedMelodyMindBender

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Man, that is some really nice words mind! I appreciate your words, and your certainly an honest bloke! I am a "beer-leaguer" and went as far as the FHL/ECHL. Was raised on it like milk :) I love the center ice package and its well worth the money IMO. Its better than the mlb package, that I don't order any longer.

One conclusion life has taught me is that with really dank medicine, memory stands no chance :) There have honestly been so many incidents I know I couldn't recall the half of them. This year has been the worst year as far as punishment management goes. Same or similar events the result in different degree's of punishment and for all first time offenders is really the biggest complaint. And I think no matter what they do to repeat offenders, people are always going to want some over the top punishment. Goon hockey is just not welcomed in the nhl and people want to see that message broadcast. But in a sense its the players unions that argue the maximum's as far as punishment go, and as long as they have a say in it, nobody really wins. IMO, thats why goon hockey has been around so long, and will stay even longer. IMO, its an element of the game that is proving to be extremely hard to remove. With that, I think shannahan is far out gunned and under witted to ever do a job of that magnitude. And its going to take more than one man to make a change, there needs to be a panel/board established to cover the entirety of the nhl with fidelity and transparency.

No, I am not qualified for that job either :) I wouldn't want it to begin with lol. But I think there are many legends in the nhl community who CAN fill the duties.

Cheers Hockey Fans~!

LETS GO KINGS~
 

Amaximus

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Baaaaaah! The Rangers are tearing my heart out! Should be a good game on Thursday.

If they do win hopefully they'll have a better showing in the second round because right now they look like they can barely keep up with an 8th seed.

Oh yes, Fuck you Crosby, have fun watching the playoffs on TV ya bitch.
 

kelly4

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Man, that is some really nice words mind! I appreciate your words, and your certainly an honest bloke! I am a "beer-leaguer" and went as far as the FHL/ECHL. Was raised on it like milk :) I love the center ice package and its well worth the money IMO. Its better than the mlb package, that I don't order any longer.

One conclusion life has taught me is that with really dank medicine, memory stands no chance :) There have honestly been so many incidents I know I couldn't recall the half of them. This year has been the worst year as far as punishment management goes. Same or similar events the result in different degree's of punishment and for all first time offenders is really the biggest complaint. And I think no matter what they do to repeat offenders, people are always going to want some over the top punishment. Goon hockey is just not welcomed in the nhl and people want to see that message broadcast. But in a sense its the players unions that argue the maximum's as far as punishment go, and as long as they have a say in it, nobody really wins. IMO, thats why goon hockey has been around so long, and will stay even longer. IMO, its an element of the game that is proving to be extremely hard to remove. With that, I think shannahan is far out gunned and under witted to ever do a job of that magnitude. And its going to take more than one man to make a change, there needs to be a panel/board established to cover the entirety of the nhl with fidelity and transparency.

No, I am not qualified for that job either :) I wouldn't want it to begin with lol. But I think there are many legends in the nhl community who CAN fill the duties.

Cheers Hockey Fans~!

LETS GO KINGS~
When I grew up, goon hockey in the 70's & 80' was self regulated. When goonery would start, the enforcers were allowed to hop the boards and end it. You're not allowed to stand up for teamates like you could in the past. Without the threat of instantly getting you're face bashed in, the goonery will continue.

There is a reason Gretzky stayed so healthy. If the NHL is serious about protecting players, they have to let teams do some of the enforceing.

I miss old time hockey!
 

MixedMelodyMindBender

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I couldn't agree more m8!!! I think if they want to clean the game up, thats fine. But everybody adheres to it. I don't think anyone in the NHL has an issue with playing that style of hockey. Teams welcome self regulation and enforcement. Its true old time hockey. Either the NHL needs total regulation of goon hockey, or get out the way and let hockey be hockey. If no one doesn't want to play that style of hockey, they know they don't have to be there. I bet every current nhl member would stay if the nhl said tomorrow its taking back old time hockey!

Great words kelly4! +Rep m8!!!
 

kelly4

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I couldn't agree more m8!!! I think if they want to clean the game up, thats fine. But everybody adheres to it. I don't think anyone in the NHL has an issue with playing that style of hockey. Teams welcome self regulation and enforcement. Its true old time hockey. Either the NHL needs total regulation of goon hockey, or get out the way and let hockey be hockey. If no one doesn't want to play that style of hockey, they know they don't have to be there. I bet every current nhl member would stay if the nhl said tomorrow its taking back old time hockey!

Great words kelly4! +Rep m8!!!
Thank you sir!

Back in the day goonery was fun to watch and part of the game. It was tough guys playing a rough sport. I still think thuggery is a necessary part of the game to get into players heads, and keep them from getting too comfortable out on the ice. Obviously, I disagree with intent to injure.

I miss the days of the North Stars/Blackhawks rivalry. 10-12 fights a game, a couple hundred penalty minutes, and YES, Secord STILL SUCKS! HAHAHAHA!!
 

shrxhky420

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So winners of round 1 in the west... Kings over Vancouver... (boo) sorry MMMB... St Louis over San Jose... booo again... Phoenix over Chicago... and Nashville over Detroit!! and in the east the Pens are out.... Let's finish up east... I'm ready for round 2 even if my team is out... stay high
 
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