trayvan martin
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desert dude
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I don't know.
Explain this for me: How does the state of Florida get a murder 2 charge on the affidavit of probable cause they presented?
MuyLocoNC
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Wrong as usual, YOU'RE the one overreacting, not me. I read your entire post and saw you mocking it, then you proceeded to discuss the account of Zimmerman's brother based on what the blogger had posted. I simply pointed out, without disparaging you (which you can't say) that the discussion shouldn't originate from an account that may have zero validity and/or accuracy. Stop with the name calling and condescension, especially when you're completely wrong, it makes you look like an idiot.
MuyLocoNC
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No, I saw all of it, I simply question every single detail she lays out. She has no firsthand knowledge and hasn't seen any evidence that we all haven't seen, so EVERY scenario she fabricated is based on conjecture and a predisposition to find Zimmerman guilty. As I've said countless times, Zimmerman could be completely guilty, a homicidal maniac liar, but I haven't seen anything or read anything that seems any more likely than Trayvon attacked him. The comment section with her replies shows her obvious bias.
Until I see it in official documents, I'm skeptical of all the supposed "facts".
Stillbuzzin
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This is so easy to answer because it never happened.Next
Corso312
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yeah i am sure this douche bag who is the "commander of the neighborhood watch" (lol can hardly type that without laughing) and drives around year round making dozens of unnecessary calls to the local police ...does not know where he is ? cmon..sounds like bullshit...this d bag was in his own patrol area
Harrekin
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I couldn't tell you from a car what number I'm parked at or even on what road in the estate I grew up in (with probably 400 houses max). I spent my whole pre-adult life there yet couldn't tell you the number of every house...yet Zimmerman is supposed to know every house in his estate?
Straws + Grasping = You.
Ultimately it's not Zimmermans fault Florida allows legalised murder, regardless of the fact he shouldn't have been in the position to fire at all, what he did was still legal depending on who started the fight. This is what's unclear and that's what will determine the outcome of the trial.
Every other fact is just irrelevant given the law.
Following someone is legal, talking to someone is legal, and if Trayvon attacked Zimmerman then him shooting him under Florida law was legal.
Everything else is unimportant, so why the totally irrelevant clutching at straws posts from so many on here?
Straws + Grasping = You.
Ultimately it's not Zimmermans fault Florida allows legalised murder, regardless of the fact he shouldn't have been in the position to fire at all, what he did was still legal depending on who started the fight. This is what's unclear and that's what will determine the outcome of the trial.
Every other fact is just irrelevant given the law.
Following someone is legal, talking to someone is legal, and if Trayvon attacked Zimmerman then him shooting him under Florida law was legal.
Everything else is unimportant, so why the totally irrelevant clutching at straws posts from so many on here?
Corso312
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well you must be like a woman and get lost easily ... i know every inch of my neighborhood ...and it is much bigger than 400 homes....and this jerkoff wants to be a cop so you know he is out multiple times a week covering the area like a glove...you say grasping at straws...i say the zimm supporters are racists...all i hear about is burglary tool..thug lookin, wannabe gangsta blah blah blah...how about the clown who was armed and tracking an innocent kid walking home from the store talking on the phone to his girl?
Harrekin
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Ok so since we're asking stupid questions, why didn't Martin call the pigs himself if he thought some weirdo was following him?
And Zimm supporters are automatically racist? How could a racist white person support a brown person who killed a black person? Wouldn't such a racist be uninterested in such a case rather than support the clearly Hispanic guy?
Just since we're making assumptions and asking irrelevant questions
Corso312
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no i think most racists would side with the mexican over the black...... not all but most people who are defending zimm ...do not like black people..they don't want them in their hood ..they don't want them walking through their hood ...they moved away when the blacks moved in....i am not black and have no white guilt. but i do know 9 out of ten times i hear the race card being played i say bullshit...not this time..this time it is for real...if martin was white i promise you zimm is arrested and charged that night... do you really think zimm the wanna be cop with 911 on speed dial gets lost or turned around while driving 4 mph through his own hood?
cannabineer
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To your first question, Harrekin: if what UB and others say about the Sanford, FL PD is even remotely correct ... that one explains itself.Ok so since we're asking stupid questions, why didn't Martin call the pigs himself if he thought some weirdo was following him?
And Zimm supporters are automatically racist? How could a racist white person support a brown person who killed a black person? Wouldn't such a racist be uninterested in such a case rather than support the clearly Hispanic guy?
Just since we're making assumptions and asking irrelevant questions
In re the racist question, I consider the words I made blue to be irrelevant and of interest only to the race-obsessed. The nub of it (again imo) is the red part. cn
UncleBuck
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facts beg to differ. zimmerman was out in the greenbelt, that's where martin was found dead and that's where the police arrived.
why would he be out in the greenbelt behind the houses looking for an address when the addresses were marked in the front of the houses near where his truck was parked?
UncleBuck
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why would he go out behind the houses to look for an address when the addresses are marked in the front of the houses where his truck was parked?
he lived there for 5 years, he knew where the addresses were. they were in front. so why was he out back behind the houses?
UncleBuck
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dee dee says that martin told her that he thought he had lost him. he had run away previously.
the whole thing started when martin was hanging out by the clubhouse, under an awning to avoid the rain, just talking to his girlfriend.
think back to when you were 17. did you like talking on the phone to your girlfriend in front of your family?
he was talking to his girlfriend under the awning, notices martin stalking him, runs away toward his house. he continues talking to his girlfriend on the phone thinking he has lost zimmerman while zimmerman is "searching for an address". they have their final meeting behind the houses where no addresses are marked.
if zimmerman lets dee dee get on that stand, he is toast. murder 2.
Canna Sylvan
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Even with your magic bullet theory, Zimm has a better chance of replacing Bill O'Reilly than murder 2.
UncleBuck
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he lunged on top of martin after shooting him because he thought a kid with a bullet in his chest was a threat. that's depraved behavior there.
Canna Sylvan
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Please have someone tape your reaction to the not guilty verdict. It'll be way better than those 2girls1cup versions.
UncleBuck
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it'll probably come back manslaughter of some sort, i'd bet.
Canna Sylvan
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Is that even going to be an option? Many times the prosecution doesn't offer manslaughter in cases like this, because they know jurors will pick it. So they go all in with hopes a jury will not let this "outrage" go unpunished.
UncleBuck
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i'm not sure to be honest. i have seen this bandied about as a possibility all over the place, but not sure if they are correct when they say this.