how much longer can this go on

titanium3g

titanium3g

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kronicsmurf said:
why worry hell its not like we can do anything about poplulation growth short of mass genocide. be glad your still alive. go toke a fatty and chill. no one escapes death so enjoy your life its a waste if you worry youself into an early grave.
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Word, but always wear a helmet!:joint:
 
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SmokePens

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Animal population(including humans) is a function of food availability. Here is an example: If 10 mice(5 male, 5 female) are given enough food for only 5 mice, 5 mice will die and any babies that are produced will die so there will be 5 mice left. If those 10 mice are given enough food for 20 mice, the mice will have plenty of food and any babies that are produced will live, initially the population will overshoot 20 mice, but eventually the weakest will die as there is only enough food for 20 mice to fight over and natural selection will leave 20 mice. The mice are always reproducing and so there are always "starving/dying mice"(babies and old mice) once the population reaches equilibrium with food availability. Same would happen with humans and does. Thus, as there are always starving mice, there will always be starving humans until we begin to regulate birth rates to make sure that our population never outgrows the food supply.

Here is a human example: Since the United States and other 1st world countries continually pump food into Africa and other "hungry" parts of the world to try to "eliminate" world hunger, the hungry people have enough food to allow them to reproduce, eventually the population reaches equilibrium and babies start dying(the ones you see on the tv commercials) because while there is enough food for the mother an father who conceived, there isn't enough food for baby so he/she dies just like the mice in the example. So through persistent saturation of "hungry" areas, the United States is only increasing the amount of people in these areas and subsequently are increasing the amount of starving/dying people.

Heck, if you have 4 marijuana plants and only have enough nutes for 3, eventually one will die and 3 will live.

The paths the developing world can take are few:
1. Keep increasing the problem by giving starving people food so that they can create more starving people
2. Let nature do its thing and don't feed starving people so that they begin to die off leaving fewer starving people
3. Find a fool-proof way to regulate conception so that humans are only "allowed" to reproduce when conditions are optimal

Obviously the 1st one doesn't work, we have been doing it for years. The second one isn't acceptable by most because it's inhumane. And the 3rd is where we will go eventually, but this "ethics" crap gets in the way of humans being able to view themselves as just another animal subject to the demands of a biological environment and not the end all, be all of creation.
 
cirrus12

cirrus12

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kronicsmurf said:
why worry hell its not like we can do anything about poplulation growth short of mass genocide. be glad your still alive. go toke a fatty and chill. no one escapes death so enjoy your life its a waste if you worry youself into an early grave.
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...genocide you say....
 
eliah1211

eliah1211

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Ativas said:
So true ... "go smoke a fatty and chill" Love it! :-)
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i am not trying to worry my life away on this. i was merely asking what people think about it. i just thought it was interesting since will probably start to effect peoples lives in the next 100 years

p.s. i just got done smokin a fatty and i loved it
 
eliah1211

eliah1211

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SmokePens said:
Animal population(including humans) is a function of food availability. Here is an example: If 10 mice(5 male, 5 female) are given enough food for only 5 mice, 5 mice will die and any babies that are produced will die so there will be 5 mice left. If those 10 mice are given enough food for 20 mice, the mice will have plenty of food and any babies that are produced will live, initially the population will overshoot 20 mice, but eventually the weakest will die as there is only enough food for 20 mice to fight over and natural selection will leave 20 mice. The mice are always reproducing and so there are always "starving/dying mice"(babies and old mice) once the population reaches equilibrium with food availability. Same would happen with humans and does. Thus, as there are always starving mice, there will always be starving humans until we begin to regulate birth rates to make sure that our population never outgrows the food supply.

Here is a human example: Since the United States and other 1st world countries continually pump food into Africa and other "hungry" parts of the world to try to "eliminate" world hunger, the hungry people have enough food to allow them to reproduce, eventually the population reaches equilibrium and babies start dying(the ones you see on the tv commercials) because while there is enough food for the mother an father who conceived, there isn't enough food for baby so he/she dies just like the mice in the example. So through persistent saturation of "hungry" areas, the United States is only increasing the amount of people in these areas and subsequently are increasing the amount of starving/dying people.

Heck, if you have 4 marijuana plants and only have enough nutes for 3, eventually one will die and 3 will live.

The paths the developing world can take are few:
1. Keep increasing the problem by giving starving people food so that they can create more starving people
2. Let nature do its thing and don't feed starving people so that they begin to die off leaving fewer starving people
3. Find a fool-proof way to regulate conception so that humans are only "allowed" to reproduce when conditions are optimal

Obviously the 1st one doesn't work, we have been doing it for years. The second one isn't acceptable by most because it's inhumane. And the 3rd is where we will go eventually, but this "ethics" crap gets in the way of humans being able to view themselves as just another animal subject to the demands of a biological environment and not the end all, be all of creation.
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good post man.

it may come down to regulations of sorts but i would sure hope not. just another part of your life the government would be running.

it would be nice if people could work productivly to help and educate themselves about this problem but it will probably just be a giant shit fest
 
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Vega

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humans are a virus to mother earth we keep increasing population and destroying everything we get our hands on. wierd huh?
 
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