MedicalSwag
Member
okay first of all calm down i mean no harm, im just asking questions, you dont need to take this all seriously im not affecting you. i have years of records for each thing except studdering.
How do you get a Medical Marijuana card in Arizona?
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Wolfhound
Active Member
But you are actuallyon here saying you want to scam into getting a card to get high. Yes pot is prescribed for younger patients than you but not for such made up illnesses. I'm done with this post and hope AZ doesnt become another scam state like Kali. Now legalizing & using recreationally ? I have hoped for that since the 60s . . .
MedicalSwag
Member
ok thank you for your time wolfhound. any other opinions or answers
BlazaBlaze
Well-Known Member
Not really sure why Wolfhound decided to flame you here Swag....especially since he just said he thinks it should be legalized recreationally but is flaming you for what he claims is wanting to do just that....dont quite understand really. Ha, "I don't want people to get their card if they just want to use MJ for fun....but I want MJ to be legalized for recreational use". If that's the case then who cares what his reason for getting the card is. Let's be real, he's gonna smoke/ingest either way, and you'd rather have him be in danger of going to jail for having a gram or two on him at the wrong time then to be 'legal'?
Anyways, I'm no law expert, but seems to me that 'chronic pain' (a symptom that is acceptable for mmj prescription) can be interpreted fairly loosely. Acid reflux disease is, I suppose, chronic pain so I think there might be a chance there.
To people suggesting that just because there are other ways to treat his symptoms means they aren't legit: There always alternative ways to treat symptoms. If someone is in pain from their cancer, they can give them Oxy, Morphine, and all kinds of dangerous and addictive opiates.....does that mean they don't deserve MMJ because there are traditional options? Now I'm not saying that TUMs and Vicodin are the same thing by any means at all, because, well quite obviously, they aren't. But at the same time MMJ is an alternative medical solution for many problems and thus will be prescribed as such.
Don't understand why everyone has to be so uptight around here.
Anyways, I'm no law expert, but seems to me that 'chronic pain' (a symptom that is acceptable for mmj prescription) can be interpreted fairly loosely. Acid reflux disease is, I suppose, chronic pain so I think there might be a chance there.
To people suggesting that just because there are other ways to treat his symptoms means they aren't legit: There always alternative ways to treat symptoms. If someone is in pain from their cancer, they can give them Oxy, Morphine, and all kinds of dangerous and addictive opiates.....does that mean they don't deserve MMJ because there are traditional options? Now I'm not saying that TUMs and Vicodin are the same thing by any means at all, because, well quite obviously, they aren't. But at the same time MMJ is an alternative medical solution for many problems and thus will be prescribed as such.
Don't understand why everyone has to be so uptight around here.
phxfire
New Member
HA... Funny the AMMA states those who are caught will have their card taken!!!
You would be surprised how much cannabis helps the sick and folks in pain! It is very disrespectful to assume folks have lied to get their cards..
Just chill out my friend! There are options to get your card but at the rate you are going you will not get your card..!
FACT - if you have some type of condition NOT listed as an approved condition there are ALWAYS options around the normal to qualify a person!! I bet the medicine you take causes severe nausea... Right?? You are unable to eat after taking your pills. Right? Your nausea is so bad it is causing your daily activities to be pushed back because of the nausea. Right? This would be a debilitating condition Approved by AzDHS....
Another open ended question.. Too many variables mate!
I would recommend following the Act and get your card properly and pay your dues.. Very simple...
I too believe in the legalization of a plant we call cannabis BUT I will not break the law to support my beliefs!!
If you need help mate let me know!!! Very simple process...
Other than that mate!! You never KNOW who is reading your writing!! So watch what you write!
BeaverHuntr
Well-Known Member
YOu cant use your Cali MMJ card here in AZ to obtain meds. Trust me you cant.
MedicalSwag
Member
Even if you buy on CL?
AZCS Bryan
Active Member
You can at AZCS. Prop 203 accepts out of state cards, so we do as well.
(don't try with just a recommendation tho, like most cali patients)
With that being said, azcs only helps visiting patients (and has a 30 day time limit on that). If you have a AZ ID or Drivers License you will need a AZ 203 card.
BeaverHuntr
Well-Known Member
I see.. I know you can use your Cali card to get out of trouble and most law enforcement officers will recognize it but I didnt think any co-op's would accept it... Learn something new every day.. Does AZCS have Sub Cool beans yet/again?
phxfire
New Member
Cali cards are recommendations... The ID card is not mandatory there... All you need is a DOCs recommendation!!
Maybe AZ should be the same... Why pay the AzDHS to obtain a ID card that has no protection for its possessor?
There are other collectives around the valley that also carry that gear. I know Arizona natural solutions does. You can find them on leafly. They are located in mesa. Pretty good people I have dealt with them in the past. They have most of the new strains and some of the old ones as well.
BeaverHuntr
Well-Known Member
Thanks Irie!! Once again "you da man!"
john malocolm
Member
California has the correct stance on cannabis medical laws.. any condition a doctor thinks can benefit from one using cannabis is legit. I know that is right. I mean any pill is worse for you than cannabis so what is the justification in saying medical marijuana is only good for 1 condition and not another because that condition is not serious enough. the bottom line is that cannabis use is not bad for human consumption in any way. so what is the pain in california saying hey we are going to give everyone this medicine no matter what because we know for a fact it is far better for these patients or kids faking pain than then patients using something else or the kids faking pain to get something that could really hurt them, like synthetic opiates???? AZ and other states need to wake up and get on board.. Because the bottom line is legalization to save lifes. If you don't think that then you are crazy. Using marijuana can prevent cancer cells from forming.. so why wait till you have cancer to start using cannabis? i think the logic behind having to be ill in any way to use medical marijuana is absolutely insane. and all you saying that it is only good because it heals you are pretty selfish and dont care about the other recreational cannabis users of the world that are being prosecuted for no reason at all.
you are being an ass btw because any kid can go scam a doctor to get vicodin or oxy's, i have done it when bored over 10 times... and that can kill me if i take too much. so why is it sooo bad if kids "scam" a weed doctor so they wont go to jail for using a non toxic substance? get a life.
you are being an ass btw because any kid can go scam a doctor to get vicodin or oxy's, i have done it when bored over 10 times... and that can kill me if i take too much. so why is it sooo bad if kids "scam" a weed doctor so they wont go to jail for using a non toxic substance? get a life.
phxfire
New Member
I would rather see young folks getting their MMJ card than going to the doctor and getting narcotic pills like Vicodin, Xanax, or any other hard core pill...
Before the 90's more than 80% of pills were extracts of plants; today less than 20% of all pills are made of plant extracts....
Folks just don't get it... MDs (Doctors) THRIVE off prescriptions... When you get a pill for 1 issue and then another pill to combat the side effects of the 1st pill; there is a bigger issue... I know someone who is on close to 30 pills.. And most of the pills are to combat side effects of the pills that he really needs for his blood... Not right... Money goes along way...
But to judge one because of their preference to something is immature and irrational... To each his own!
Who is to say your condition is more or less severe than someone elses condition? No one but yourself!! I may twist my ankle and be fine but if my old lady twisted her ankle she may have to call off everything for a few days... To each his own!
Before the 90's more than 80% of pills were extracts of plants; today less than 20% of all pills are made of plant extracts....
Folks just don't get it... MDs (Doctors) THRIVE off prescriptions... When you get a pill for 1 issue and then another pill to combat the side effects of the 1st pill; there is a bigger issue... I know someone who is on close to 30 pills.. And most of the pills are to combat side effects of the pills that he really needs for his blood... Not right... Money goes along way...
But to judge one because of their preference to something is immature and irrational... To each his own!
Who is to say your condition is more or less severe than someone elses condition? No one but yourself!! I may twist my ankle and be fine but if my old lady twisted her ankle she may have to call off everything for a few days... To each his own!
First of all learn how to spell, and second, FREE WILL is the real reason for anybody to want a card. Migraines got me my card, but even if I had nothing wrong, I would still find someway to get it. Going to prison for choosing to smoke a herb is ridiculous and if OP wants to avoid that then so be it. No one human should be able to command other humans on what they should or should not put into their bodies, it's a simple right. I hope everybody who tries can and will get their cards, the momentum is slowly changing and soon enough we won't have to deal with these ridiculous marijuana laws.
Wolfhound
Active Member
Been waiting/wanting it to become legal for you since the late '60s . . . Sorry it isn't
I often lurk and read on this website about marijuana related issues. Rarely do I feel enticed to post, and usually when I do the topic is 1-2 years old so I dont bother. But wow, the ignorance and hypocritical behavior of a few members on here is absolutely disgusting. I have been coming here for years and never have I seen such blatant, rude, pious and bigoted attitudes - especially not so proudly on display. Wolfhound, you are NOT better than this person just because of your age! It seems you may have smoked all your common decency away, and now you sit in a basement smoking all day, talking to people online about how they dont deserve medical marijuana. Yet you use medical marijuana and want it legalized? How can you be so blatantly hypocritical?
Why does his age have anything to do with it? Illnesses that affect your day-to-day well being can occur at ANY age. There are 12 year olds on cannabis and it lets them enjoy what little time they had left on this earth. Are you going to tell the father of the 2 year old who had a brain tumor that he should just let his baby die, instead of giving him a substance KNOWN to kill cancer cells? That baby was given a week to live by doctors. It is now 3 years old and cancer free though he has a 50-80% chance of it returning. That risk would be mitigated with continued marijuana use.
How about the mother of the 6 year old who had life-threatening seizures that were calmed with marijuana? You going to tell her she is a bad parent and she should let her kid die instead of taking marijuana? What kind of backwards logic are you using here? I could go on and on with examples of children's lives being saved by medical marijuana...
Or how about the teenager who has no diseases, doesnt like drinking, but enjoys an occasional smoke to relax. Do you Wolfhound really feel you are in the position to tell him he does not deserve to have that? That he can not have that, because its illegal? That such a person should not get a medical card, because they want to use it recreationally? How about the disease here is a felony on your record which prevents you from getting any decent job in the future - how about we look at that as the disease, and a medical marijuana card prevents that.
I can guarantee you, from personal experience, the majority of people with cards are recreational users, no more no less. And a huge majority of people who WOULD benefit from medical marijuana, dont get a card because of the stigma associated with it by people such as yourself and other ignorant folks in this thread. Marijuana is at the VERY LEAST, harmless - at the MOST, extremely beneficial. Why do YOU feel you have any position to tell him he does not deserve a medical marijauna card? Did you write Prop 203? Are you a physician in the area who has seen him in person and diagnosed him? If a physician decides he has a debilitating disease and that medical marijauna would help, thats the end of it. Your opinion is irrelevant and your attitude is completely insulting.
I find it hard to believe you talk down to these kids because of their age, considering you seem to have the attitude of a self-entitled 16 year old. If you have really been wanting it to be legal since the 60s, I will assume one of two things:
1) You smoked marijuana recreationally before it was legalized in any way. This would make you a hypocrite to an absolutely disgusting degree. If this is the case then you are basically telling him "I had to risk my well being by smoking it when it was illegal, and despite the fact there are legal ways now, YOU should also have to risk it"
2) You didnt smoke marijuana when you were younger because it was illegal, and now you are bitter about it, and want other people to have to wait until they are your age to enjoy smoking this medicinal herb. If this is the case then that is absolutely childish and completely ridiculous.
Also, drug prohibition was really only enforced starting in the early '70s, so if you were waiting around from the '60s for it to be legalized then I dont even know what to say.
Thats like saying in 1925 that you have been waiting since 1900 for alcohol to be legalized. (Alcohol prohibition was 1920-1933).
Wolfhound, the problem here is YOU not him. We are looking at it as MEDICINE. You are looking at it strictly as a recreational drug. Whether or not we have predisposed illnesses should be irrelevant, marijuana is a preventative medicine that prevents the forming of cancer cells. There should be NO MORE discussion after that.
Why do some people feel they deserve medical marijuana more than others?
How can someone support legalization, but be against getting a medical card for recreational use?
Pixi I dont need to read any more posts of yours. By your retort there, it is clear you are some rude and insulting know-it-all. Would you like some sugar for that high horse of yours? I saw you tell someone to get over themselves. Please, take your own advice. You are not better than anyone else.
I hate seeing this rude attitude on these forums. Rollitup used to just be 90% "Yeah man, totally, yeah, totally do it lol yeah thatll be so coooool man haha yeah" and 10% useful information.
Now I am afraid it is 50% typical stoner posts, 40% rude idiots shoving their opinion up other people's assholes, and 10% genuinely helpful advice.
Another question - Why is the MOST HELPFUL POST in this thread from a spambot with ONE POST?
Doesn't that say something about the forum?
How about instead of asserting your opinion into places it was not asked, you instead just answer the kid's question. He asked how to get a medical marijuana card and listed off a few illnesses that 100% QUALIFY HIM. Then you bozos go and tell him nah you dont qualify you just want to get high you dont deserve your medical card this shit and that shit etc etc.
Seriously, grow up. Answer the kid's question, stop shoving your opinions in places they do not belong. You have a problem with the medical marijuana framework, take it up with the AZDHS who enforce the bill and maintain it. THIS is no place for childish, insulting remarks which are AGAINST medical marijauna use. THIS is a MARIJUANA forum. If you do NOT like marijuana, go somewhere else and take your asshole attitude with you. Leave your medical marijuana grade cannabis at the door.
MedicalSwag, your conditions do qualify, they even qualified before the amended list of conditions.
plantmagic, you were very helpful and relevant, thank you for keeping it fact and not opinion-based.
apothecarist, helpful, spot-on with answering is question. Good on you.
Jogro, you get it man - at least more than most the people in here
Beaverhunter, helpful post - we need more of that around here
Blazablaze, thank you VERY MUCH for being the first to stand up in defense of this poor kid! Kind of pathetic having these elderly bullies picking on this kid...
phxfire, good advice all around - though I wouldnt be afraid of cops reading a forum and trying to backtrack it to you to revoke your card. They have better things to do
john malocolm - you REALLY seem to get it, I think the most of anyone in here. At the very least, MMJ is safer than prescribed pills which are JUST AS EASILY OBTAINABLE in a legal fashion. huge +1 to you my friend
pdude, good post - you are absolutely right that we are free individuals and anyone, be it the government or wolfhound, telling us what we cant put in our bodies - is a joke!
str8sativa, another good post, right on the money
The rest of you, learn to be decent human beings. Learn to answer the question posed instead of trying to frame it in a way that you can insult or berate them. His first post paraphrased: "I am looking to get a medical marijuana card because I have several conditions that I know from personal experience that medical marijuana helps with" - why you guys think you can assume he just wants to get high, based off that, is beyond me. Answer the questions, dont shove your opinions in other people's face. It is rude, and it is not what this forum is about. I guarantee I have been on this forum, active or not, longer than any of you and I have NEVER seen such immature, childish posts. And those posts are from people who claim to be 50+ years old. Grow up, and act your age. There is no room in this world for people as self-absorbed as yourselves.
Pixi the way you talk down to people, "you are a dumbass kid" "get some prevacid" "get over yourself"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] "you make me laugh little boy" "whiny cry baby" "rock on little buckaroo" ...its absolutely disgusting and childish. I think you have an superiority complex, and it is thinly veiled. I will reiterate one more time: You are not better than anyone else for any reason. I think you are insecure, and you lash out at people online to try to feel better about yourself. Please, grow up. This is no place for that kind of behaviour.
Sorry for the long post everyone, this thread just absolutely DISGUSTED ME! Like I said I have been going to this forum for years and years and never before have I seen such childish, rude remarks. It amazes me this behavior is allowed on a marijuana forum. I used to dismiss rollitup as mostly completely braindead stoners just going "yeah man good weed yeah bongs 420 lol" but I would rather have that then what I see here. And whats worse, you all live in my state? Good god. [/FONT]
Why does his age have anything to do with it? Illnesses that affect your day-to-day well being can occur at ANY age. There are 12 year olds on cannabis and it lets them enjoy what little time they had left on this earth. Are you going to tell the father of the 2 year old who had a brain tumor that he should just let his baby die, instead of giving him a substance KNOWN to kill cancer cells? That baby was given a week to live by doctors. It is now 3 years old and cancer free though he has a 50-80% chance of it returning. That risk would be mitigated with continued marijuana use.
How about the mother of the 6 year old who had life-threatening seizures that were calmed with marijuana? You going to tell her she is a bad parent and she should let her kid die instead of taking marijuana? What kind of backwards logic are you using here? I could go on and on with examples of children's lives being saved by medical marijuana...
Or how about the teenager who has no diseases, doesnt like drinking, but enjoys an occasional smoke to relax. Do you Wolfhound really feel you are in the position to tell him he does not deserve to have that? That he can not have that, because its illegal? That such a person should not get a medical card, because they want to use it recreationally? How about the disease here is a felony on your record which prevents you from getting any decent job in the future - how about we look at that as the disease, and a medical marijuana card prevents that.
I can guarantee you, from personal experience, the majority of people with cards are recreational users, no more no less. And a huge majority of people who WOULD benefit from medical marijuana, dont get a card because of the stigma associated with it by people such as yourself and other ignorant folks in this thread. Marijuana is at the VERY LEAST, harmless - at the MOST, extremely beneficial. Why do YOU feel you have any position to tell him he does not deserve a medical marijauna card? Did you write Prop 203? Are you a physician in the area who has seen him in person and diagnosed him? If a physician decides he has a debilitating disease and that medical marijauna would help, thats the end of it. Your opinion is irrelevant and your attitude is completely insulting.
I find it hard to believe you talk down to these kids because of their age, considering you seem to have the attitude of a self-entitled 16 year old. If you have really been wanting it to be legal since the 60s, I will assume one of two things:
1) You smoked marijuana recreationally before it was legalized in any way. This would make you a hypocrite to an absolutely disgusting degree. If this is the case then you are basically telling him "I had to risk my well being by smoking it when it was illegal, and despite the fact there are legal ways now, YOU should also have to risk it"
2) You didnt smoke marijuana when you were younger because it was illegal, and now you are bitter about it, and want other people to have to wait until they are your age to enjoy smoking this medicinal herb. If this is the case then that is absolutely childish and completely ridiculous.
Also, drug prohibition was really only enforced starting in the early '70s, so if you were waiting around from the '60s for it to be legalized then I dont even know what to say.
Thats like saying in 1925 that you have been waiting since 1900 for alcohol to be legalized. (Alcohol prohibition was 1920-1933).
Wolfhound, the problem here is YOU not him. We are looking at it as MEDICINE. You are looking at it strictly as a recreational drug. Whether or not we have predisposed illnesses should be irrelevant, marijuana is a preventative medicine that prevents the forming of cancer cells. There should be NO MORE discussion after that.
Why do some people feel they deserve medical marijuana more than others?
How can someone support legalization, but be against getting a medical card for recreational use?
Pixi I dont need to read any more posts of yours. By your retort there, it is clear you are some rude and insulting know-it-all. Would you like some sugar for that high horse of yours? I saw you tell someone to get over themselves. Please, take your own advice. You are not better than anyone else.
I hate seeing this rude attitude on these forums. Rollitup used to just be 90% "Yeah man, totally, yeah, totally do it lol yeah thatll be so coooool man haha yeah" and 10% useful information.
Now I am afraid it is 50% typical stoner posts, 40% rude idiots shoving their opinion up other people's assholes, and 10% genuinely helpful advice.
Another question - Why is the MOST HELPFUL POST in this thread from a spambot with ONE POST?
Doesn't that say something about the forum?
How about instead of asserting your opinion into places it was not asked, you instead just answer the kid's question. He asked how to get a medical marijuana card and listed off a few illnesses that 100% QUALIFY HIM. Then you bozos go and tell him nah you dont qualify you just want to get high you dont deserve your medical card this shit and that shit etc etc.
Seriously, grow up. Answer the kid's question, stop shoving your opinions in places they do not belong. You have a problem with the medical marijuana framework, take it up with the AZDHS who enforce the bill and maintain it. THIS is no place for childish, insulting remarks which are AGAINST medical marijauna use. THIS is a MARIJUANA forum. If you do NOT like marijuana, go somewhere else and take your asshole attitude with you. Leave your medical marijuana grade cannabis at the door.
MedicalSwag, your conditions do qualify, they even qualified before the amended list of conditions.
plantmagic, you were very helpful and relevant, thank you for keeping it fact and not opinion-based.
apothecarist, helpful, spot-on with answering is question. Good on you.
Jogro, you get it man - at least more than most the people in here
Beaverhunter, helpful post - we need more of that around here
Blazablaze, thank you VERY MUCH for being the first to stand up in defense of this poor kid! Kind of pathetic having these elderly bullies picking on this kid...
phxfire, good advice all around - though I wouldnt be afraid of cops reading a forum and trying to backtrack it to you to revoke your card. They have better things to do
john malocolm - you REALLY seem to get it, I think the most of anyone in here. At the very least, MMJ is safer than prescribed pills which are JUST AS EASILY OBTAINABLE in a legal fashion. huge +1 to you my friend
pdude, good post - you are absolutely right that we are free individuals and anyone, be it the government or wolfhound, telling us what we cant put in our bodies - is a joke!
str8sativa, another good post, right on the money
The rest of you, learn to be decent human beings. Learn to answer the question posed instead of trying to frame it in a way that you can insult or berate them. His first post paraphrased: "I am looking to get a medical marijuana card because I have several conditions that I know from personal experience that medical marijuana helps with" - why you guys think you can assume he just wants to get high, based off that, is beyond me. Answer the questions, dont shove your opinions in other people's face. It is rude, and it is not what this forum is about. I guarantee I have been on this forum, active or not, longer than any of you and I have NEVER seen such immature, childish posts. And those posts are from people who claim to be 50+ years old. Grow up, and act your age. There is no room in this world for people as self-absorbed as yourselves.
Pixi the way you talk down to people, "you are a dumbass kid" "get some prevacid" "get over yourself"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] "you make me laugh little boy" "whiny cry baby" "rock on little buckaroo" ...its absolutely disgusting and childish. I think you have an superiority complex, and it is thinly veiled. I will reiterate one more time: You are not better than anyone else for any reason. I think you are insecure, and you lash out at people online to try to feel better about yourself. Please, grow up. This is no place for that kind of behaviour.
Sorry for the long post everyone, this thread just absolutely DISGUSTED ME! Like I said I have been going to this forum for years and years and never before have I seen such childish, rude remarks. It amazes me this behavior is allowed on a marijuana forum. I used to dismiss rollitup as mostly completely braindead stoners just going "yeah man good weed yeah bongs 420 lol" but I would rather have that then what I see here. And whats worse, you all live in my state? Good god. [/FONT]
PixiDustr
Active Member
Thank you sooo much for straightening me out. Whew! Yes I have an opinion. And yes I will from time to time reveal what it is. I've never thought of myself as better anyone...wow thanks for pointing it out. I didn't realize...wow the revelations....the colors...oh wait that's the weed...and I have a high horse? I've always wanted a horse...you don't like what I post don't read it...i have a dry wit and some have been known to appreciate it...but you have to have a certain level of ... how should I say it? Intelligence, smarts...ability to comprehend the abstract or see the absurdity in a thing that others do not....oops did I say that? Yes, yes I did. It's really nice that such a fellow as you felt the need to break your silence...I woulda never known...talk about being judgmental...but it's nice that you can express yourself. After all this IS America! I stand by everyone one of my posts. Yea I am a smart ass, but it beats being a dumb ass!
