250w HPS Club And Help Guide
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HuckleberryFinn
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OK question for the "old dogs" 
! I read a lot about the fertilizering in the different stages of growing and everywhere the people say that during vegetative the plant needs more "N" and when the plant switch to flowering the "N" needed is less. The question is what is the quantity of "N" needed during flowering comparing whit vegetative and if its less why those bastards from BIoBizz advertizing to increase the "N" during the flowering period??? You can tell me just how you're feeding your plants during flowering comparing vegetative period?
Thanks!
! I read a lot about the fertilizering in the different stages of growing and everywhere the people say that during vegetative the plant needs more "N" and when the plant switch to flowering the "N" needed is less. The question is what is the quantity of "N" needed during flowering comparing whit vegetative and if its less why those bastards from BIoBizz advertizing to increase the "N" during the flowering period??? You can tell me just how you're feeding your plants during flowering comparing vegetative period?Thanks!
I85BLAX
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And I agree! An old Important man told me knowledge is priceless!
I85BLAX
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Damn look at the stalk on that monster!Pulled the one MM out of the cab, since I'm not ready to final flush both of the girls I figured a bucket flush over night with clearex couldn't hurt. It also gave me a chance to get the majority of fan leaves off so everything I trim tomorrow can be saved for other stuff.
Here is what she looks like atm, I took the top of this after vaca so add at least a foot
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Grazzmon
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yeah.. thinking of make a flute out of that. Just need to find out the best way to dry it without cracking..
Grazzmon
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These words of wisdom should be in Huck's sig..
"15 grams and a lot of lessons learned... sounds like a good result to me!"
Could be "15 grams and a pound of lessons learned... sounds like a good result to me!"
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Matchbox
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Ah that oneOK question for the "old dogs"
Thanks!
though I wouldn't say I'm an 'old dog' of RIU XDyeah generally you just ignore the marketing crap, your plants tell you what they need.
Generally yes you should have a lot less N in flower something like 75% less and obviously they the need more P and K. The exceptions to this is that some strains use a lot more nitrogen in flower than others and demonstrate deficiencies because of it, so what BioBizz is saying, "if your plants are lacking N in flower add product C to the other shit you've brought off of us".
I just ignore them and mix my feed as follows, 1st 2-3 weeks of flower (stretch phase) 75% veg nutes 25% flower nutes that way they get nitrogen when they need it at that period and adjust to the flowering mix so when these weeks are over they get 100% flower feed, during flower I just keep an eye on them and if they show any signs of N def I just mix in roughly 10-20% veg solution (reducing flower to 90 or 80%) at the next watering or in hydro res change which I plan to do weekly when I get there
lol it very well could be XD
HuckleberryFinn
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More knowledge, more and more thanks for sharing MB. I definitely overfed my plants because of the commercial shit of the biobizz label. Sorry about the "old dog" expression sounds good to meAh that one
yeah generally you just ignore the marketing crap, your plants tell you what they need.
Generally yes you should have a lot less N in flower something like 75% less and obviously they the need more P and K. The exceptions to this is that some strains use a lot more nitrogen in flower than others and demonstrate deficiencies because of it, so what BioBizz is saying, "if your plants are lacking N in flower add product C to the other shit you've brought off of us".
I just ignore them and mix my feed as follows, 1st 2-3 weeks of flower (stretch phase) 75% veg nutes 25% flower nutes that way they get nitrogen when they need it at that period and adjust to the flowering mix so when these weeks are over they get 100% flower feed, during flower I just keep an eye on them and if they show any signs of N def I just mix in roughly 10-20% veg solution (reducing flower to 90 or 80%) at the next watering or in hydro res change which I plan to do weekly when I get there
lol it very well could be XD
Btw what RIU and XD meen, meeting those all the time here SBt, my grow media is soil if thats was the question! Biobizz "told me" put 1 ml per 1liter water BIogrow (8-2-6) until the plant are in veg, after that keep it in that way + 3-5 ml per 1l water biobloom (2-6-3.5) ..... havent patience for the next plants
Matchbox
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RIU = Roll it up (referring to the community here)More knowledge, more and more thanks for sharing MB. I definitely overfed my plants because of the commercial shit of the biobizz label. Sorry about the "old dog" expression sounds good to me
SBt, my grow media is soil if thats was the question! Biobizz "told me" put 1 ml per 1liter water BIogrow (8-2-6) until the plant are in veg, after that keep ot in that way + 3-5 ml per 1l water biobloom (2-6-3.5) ..... havent patience for the next plants
XD = Excited face smiley (turn it 90* Clockwise lol)
and no worries
EDIT:
just finished building this awesome (shallow water) DWC/drip system
I say shallow water because I don't want the water level to go too high up (though it very well could) and the extra height the water has to fall will help cause a waterfall effect for more oxygenation.Just need a 'T' joint so all pots are supplied by the dripper.
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The drip part is mainly to oxygenate the water (using the fancy air sucking water pump)
cbtbudz
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huckle what soil are you useing?some come already with nutes in them so depending on plant and pot size you wont need to fert for 2-4 weeks.i dont use any bottled nutes at all.just a couple well timed transplants and a couple amendments in the mix and i just water, sometimes with molasses.at least for the strains im working with.50-78 day strains.
MB that is the shit!nice system.i have always wanted to try hydro but just worry about my rez temps getting to high.maybe 1 day i can put 1 in somewhere in my garden.
MB that is the shit!nice system.i have always wanted to try hydro but just worry about my rez temps getting to high.maybe 1 day i can put 1 in somewhere in my garden.
I85BLAX
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What amendments do you use?
C.Indica
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Hey guys, I joined the club on 4/20
I haven't got my cab yet, so for now it's just hanging open in a room.
Super nice temps, but that's because of the open room bit.
I'm planning on using a 24"x24" actual canopy grow space,
regardless of what the floor dimensions are,
Should I really increase it? I was thinking either 24x24 or 32x32.
I seriously love the switch from CFL/Fluorescent to HID.
Never seen my plants grow so fast.
And I'm not even using a MH.
I haven't got my cab yet, so for now it's just hanging open in a room.
Super nice temps, but that's because of the open room bit.
I'm planning on using a 24"x24" actual canopy grow space,
regardless of what the floor dimensions are,
Should I really increase it? I was thinking either 24x24 or 32x32.
I seriously love the switch from CFL/Fluorescent to HID.
Never seen my plants grow so fast.
And I'm not even using a MH.
HuckleberryFinn
Member
This is the soil think the PH is 5.7, I didnt feed them 2 or 3 weeks in the begining and in this time they didnt growing up properly and they started to growing up just when I started to feeding them whit nuts!
Now 7 days after the flush the soil is stil to moist for watering whit nuts...but I am still waiting
I85BLAX
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with what soil?
Matchbox
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Thanks, under a 250w the res temps are usually fine so long as you have the extraction to deal with it
and that's what frozen water bottles are for! I'm more worried about when winter comes, my cabs outside and my res will probably freeze :sTry LED and you'll see fast growth lol!Hey guys, I joined the club on 4/20
I haven't got my cab yet, so for now it's just hanging open in a room.
Super nice temps, but that's because of the open room bit.
I'm planning on using a 24"x24" actual canopy grow space,
regardless of what the floor dimensions are,
Should I really increase it? I was thinking either 24x24 or 32x32.
I seriously love the switch from CFL/Fluorescent to HID.
Never seen my plants grow so fast.
And I'm not even using a MH.
if you have space for expanding then do it, the 250 covers a reasonable area, roughly about 3ftx3ft comfortably.
The 1st 2-3 weeks of growing are usually slow growth as the plant is building a root system so all the growth is happening below ground.
I can't comment too much on soil because even though I've pretty much always used it, I've never PH'd anything, nor had to add anything or EC'd or whatever I just feed and water lol all my fancy meters were replicated by reading the plants
JayJayDaStoner
Active Member
Hey Everybody I Have a quick question and this seems the appropriate venue to ask it..
At this moment I have a 150W Hps with a built in ballast and my temps average 80-82
this does not cut it for my personal medical needs.
my question is do you guys think by upgrading from 150 built in to a 250 remote ballast I would have Cooler temps??
At this moment I have a 150W Hps with a built in ballast and my temps average 80-82
this does not cut it for my personal medical needs.
my question is do you guys think by upgrading from 150 built in to a 250 remote ballast I would have Cooler temps??
Matchbox
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hmm difficult one to answer that, hows your ventilation, extraction etc? because the ballast does put out a lot of heat...
if you can create some negative pressure, just have passive intakes and one tonking outtake you'll be golden
I think we say to everyone, don't skimp on extraction/ventilation or lights they are key to controlling temps and providing the best environment.
if you can create some negative pressure, just have passive intakes and one tonking outtake you'll be golden
I think we say to everyone, don't skimp on extraction/ventilation or lights they are key to controlling temps and providing the best environment.