What are we meaning by saying Amended oranic growers? correct em if im wrong does it mean. Organic soil mixed with compost or peat moss coco perlite?good choice. most of the serious organic growers use a heavily amended super soil mixed with some very heavy teas.
its VERY hard to actually burn plants when using organics properly.
What are we meaning by saying Amended oranic growers? correct em if im wrong does it mean. Organic soil mixed with compost or peat moss coco perlite?
Phi zipper I'm very new to teas and would love some advise on your teas and your soil mixes.i use a heavily amended soil mix. i use beneficial teas that don't necessarily have any many added nutrients. they feed the micro heard in the soil so i only have to feed once a month in veg using this method, in flower i feed every watering because organics is the shit and you dont get burn just expolding plants. if interested in my recipe let me know.
Actualy using Heavily amended SOILS means using more nutrients than the plants can up-take.What are we meaning by saying Amended oranic growers? correct em if im wrong does it mean. Organic soil mixed with compost or peat moss coco perlite?
8 large bags of high quality organic potting soil with coco and Mycorrhizae
25-50 lbs. of organic worm castings
5 lbs. of Blood meal 12-0-0
5 lbs. Bat guano 0-5-0
5 lbs. Fish Bone Meal 3-16-0
¾ cup Epsom salt
1 cup Sweet lime (Dolomite)
½ cup Azomite ( Trace element)
2 Tbs. powdered Humic acid
*** If using an RO system add in 1/2 cup powdered Cal/mag
have you checked to make sure they are fertilizer grade ingredients?For me it seems that every time I use one, the plant is getting burned a little.
I am not sure what fertilizer grade ingredients are to be honest. I never hears of organic fertilize grade ingredients. Honestly that sounds kinda stupid.have you checked to make sure they are fertilizer grade ingredients?
its NOT stuff from a gerocery store or pet store, thats for sure....I am not sure what fertilizer grade ingredients are to be honest.
People dont eat Cow manure ethier, Yet we know how good it is for growing plants.... Hmmm.... Also, Guano's and Manures Pastureize themselves. its a well known fact that poop heats up as it degrades, when in large piles it pasturizes its self when turned.1. People or animals usually do not eat bat guano
2. Most of bat guano is pasteurized, as most, not all, bats are carnivorous.
#1 compost piles, Especialy OLD compost piles (From way back in the day) were made up of Naturaly grown organic mulch. if you had a compost, it was because you had a garden... the compost is a Direct result of things Humans do not eat....Compost piles are usually done with leftover of what you eat or buy. Worms are usually fed same things you might eat, or newspapers. I do not think my grandmother used to buy "fertilized" grade food for her compost.
Based on common sense you would THINK and realize "Oh shit, if i put Alfalfa that PH 5 into my PH 7 soil, it will Mess shit up". THATS common sense..... but common sense isn't so common anymore, we have gone through a massive dumbing down of society.but based on my reading and common sense
Do you suggest using human's, dog's and other carnivorous manures then? Even after composting?People dont eat Cow manure ethier, Yet we know how good it is for growing plants.... Hmmm.... Also, Guano's and Manures Pastureize themselves. its a well known fact that poop heats up as it degrades, when in large piles it pasturizes its self when turned.
Even supposing this is true, there were no leftovers and everybody ate everything on their plates. The shells and husk are still from the same products. They were never PHed or processed in any way. I bet most of the old farmers do not even know what PH is and what it's for. My grandparents for sure do not.#2 Your Grama's compost would have been made specificly from things humans DONT eat. remember, 50+ years ago people ate EVERYTHING on their plates. the husks and shells were the only things thrown away.
In theory the soil should be able to balance the PH back to normal, even if the PH of the nutes is of. Practically I would not be so certain, but I would like to know who PHs their compost for example. Or any of the ingredients that are being used.Based on common sense you would THINK and realize "Oh shit, if i put Alfalfa that PH 5 into my PH 7 soil, it will Mess shit up". THATS common sense..... but common sense isn't so common anymore, we have gone through a massive dumbing down of society.
Actualy, i Learned from FDD2BLK that Carnivorous Guano's are good. hell, Great even. Carnivorous bat guano, Cat feces and dog feces (if composted) supply tonnes of N and K to plants....Do you suggest using human's, dog's and other carnivorous manures then? Even after composting?
No actualy, soils range a HUGE amount. the Soils in my area (Pine forest) are around 5.7, where as the Soils in an Equatorial Rainforest are closer to 8..... Different plants need different things.....In theory the soil should be able to balance the PH back to normal, even if the PH of the nutes is of.
Only certain varieties of Kelp and Alfalfa are used for agricultural use. all of Which have had a full analysis done of the nutrients involved.... like i said before, Different plants need different things.how do you imagine alfalfa's or kelp's acidity being adjust, ffs they are plants.
those are from the University of Montana, Nutrient Management Program. Read them and learn how plants work, it will save you alot of stress in the long run....Module 2: Plant Nutrition and Soil Fertility. Covers the 17 elements essential for plant nutrition; macronutrients and micronutrients; the function and mobility of nutrients within plants; the forms of each nutrient that are taken up by plants; typical nutrient plant concentrations; how nutrient needs change during the growing season; the basics of nutrient intake; and the basics of how nutrients are held or released by the soil. http://landresources.montana.edu/nm/Modules/NM 2 mt44492.pdf
Module 8: Soil pH and Organic Matter. Learn about soil pH is and how it is calculated; understand how soil pH affects nutrient availability in the soil; learn techniques for managing soil pH and the processes of soil organic matter cycling; and understand the role of soil organic matter in nutrient and organic carbon management. http://landresources.montana.edu/nm/Modules/Module8.pdf
Module 9: Plant Nutrient Functions and Deficiency and Toxicity Symptoms. Identify and diagnose common plant nutrient deficiency and toxicity symptoms, know potential limitations of visual diagnosis, understand how to use a key for identifying deficiency symptoms. and distinguish between mobile and immobile nutrient deficiencies. http://landresources.montana.edu/nm/Modules/NM 9 mt44499.pdf
No doubt that carnivorous manure is nutrition. But I always read that it's use is not advised in crops. But sure, feel free to use any kind of shit when you grow for yourself.Actualy, i Learned from FDD2BLK that Carnivorous Guano's are good. hell, Great even. Carnivorous bat guano, Cat feces and dog feces (if composted) supply tonnes of N and K to plants....
Really, 0_o source please!Only certain varieties of Kelp and Alfalfa are used for agricultural use. all of Which have had a full analysis done of the nutrients involved.... like i said before, Different plants need different things.
I never said that the soil is the always the same acidity. My point was, if your soil neutral for example (7), by adding nutrient with acidity level of 6, you wont dis-balance the soil PH level. It will maintain it self a 7. Of course, after years of abuse you can harm it.No actualy, soils range a HUGE amount. the Soils in my area (Pine forest) are around 5.7, where as the Soils in an Equatorial Rainforest are closer to 8..... Different plants need different things.....
And they still did not know what PH was! They did what they observed helped them. They still used non PHed water. Non PHed compost and non PHed elements. And somehow, miraculously, they still were manage to survive winters eating their harvests.P.S: Just for the record, Farmers have been "Balancing the soil" AKA Balancing the PH levels for hundreds of years. thats why in the 1300's English farmers would rotate crops using the 3 Crop system..... Every 2 years the crops would be rotated and mulch would be added the the one field not being used... to add nutrients and balance the PH
ah man was just going to say this that's why they people in Europe had to rotate corn crops. Just a little history lesson bet you didn't know that the Industrial Revolution in Great Britain is due to the introduction of the Potato to the diet in Europe. When people grow corn it takes alot of nutrients out of the soils and such which is why they rotate (we all know this, just clarifying). Once the potato was introduced they were now able to plant in all their fields without problems of rotating thus they could produce more food. Once they started producing more food their population BOOMEd I don't know the statistics off hand but there is a huge coorelation between the introduction of the Potato and the population boom. anyways now that they don't have a scarce food and are able to maintain bigger populations and essentially have time to do other things than just farm food... the Industrial Revolution was born..P.S: Just for the record, Farmers have been "Balancing the soil" AKA Balancing the PH levels for hundreds of years. thats why in the 1300's English farmers would rotate crops using the 3 Crop system..... Every 2 years the crops would be rotated and mulch would be added the the one field not being used... to add nutrients and balance the PH
tweazers and magnifying glasses hunched over a table for 8hrs a day hahaha1 cup of cricket poo, damn I wonder how small the pooper scooper is that the guy uses to collect all that cricket poo?