crazyhazey
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wait are you talking about homebrewers pic? i think that was AK if im not mistaken. and hell yeah spaghetti!
after trying dyna gro im switching back to advanced nutrients 2 part
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4" squared rockwool cubes im flooding for 6 minutes every 3 hours when the lights are on
i think i maybe gotta go back to what i used to do which is how ever the amount of ml i add of the 2 part i add half the amount of the additives. for example 100 ml part a 100ml part b and then 50 ml of all additives. thats the same ratio as the nute calc also. right now im finding myself using additives at double the ml of the 2 part which is alot more. i recently started doing it like this after someone on this forum recommended it
Well honestly I got my foliage pro for free Dan from dyna gro sent me it google it. Just to try it I can almost promise u nothing in veg will compare and it couldn't hurt to get the fee sample and try it on one plant
nice il definitely try it when i get the chance. il test it out on my moms thanks
Ok let me know what ya think
phillipchristian
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For 300ppm that is WAY to high on the additives. I can't say whether it's causing your foxtailing but it is definitely too much. I would cut them back to 1ml per gallon if you are running 2 Part AN at that ppm. I'm running 900-1600ppm, sometimes as high as 1800-1900ppm on certain strains and i'm using the same as you for additives. No way can that be good.
I would lose the B52 too since is just a B-1 vitamin supplement and you really don't need it during flower. If you are having good results with it then go for it but I've found that vitamin supplements are great for veg, transplants, and sick plants but kinda pointless in flower. Or you might consider using it just as a foliar spray once a week.
If you are using Cal/Mag then their is no need for Bud Candy. It's a water soluble Magnesium additive.
I would lose Big Bud as well and just stick with Overdrive. They are both bloom enhancers and Overdrive gives you 5 times more Phosphurus and twice as much Potassium. No need to add both unless you are using them at seperate times. I use Big Bud the first 3 weeks and Overdrive the last 3 weeks before flush. You don't want to use them together. It's just a waste.
phillipchristian
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Hey man, I agree with you for the most part. I mean, it's up to the individual user and their preference. A lot depends on how you grow, your medium, feeding style, etc... I'm a heavy feeder as well; sometimes my solutions get up to 1600-1900ppm on certain strains. I also feed just water once a week in hydro and every 3rd water in soil. My comment about ppm is exactly what you are saying...I do not follow dosage guidelines or setpoints. I tweak my strains ppm every week to find the limits and get it dialed in. Usually on week 1 I am around 800-1000ppm. By week 4-5 I am around 1600-1900ppm. Then I start to back off before flush. You are basically saying what I already did.
Every grower has their preference. I'm not here shoveling AN to anyone. You have to use what works for you. I've tried FF before and for me it didn't get the results that AN did. But for you it works. That's all that matters. I won't say that FF is shit or that AN is better than everything else. Every room and every grower is different. My advice is to always experiment and find what works for you. I just don't like it when people who don't know what they are doing or have never used AN go around saying they are shit nutrients. Thise people don't know what they are talking about and are just repeating something they heard without actually testing the stuff themselves.
phillipchristian
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Cut it back to a third Tree. Seriously. I think you'll see much better results. With thise additives you are messing with NPK ratio if you are adding that much.
im going back to the old ratio that i just talked about and im pretty positive this foxtailling issue will clear up. it makes sense i was adding too much additives cause something seemed like it was kind of off lately. im glad i figured this out before my third week on my new crop cause i havent added any additives yet other than silica. thanks alot phillip this is a relief
o shit i just got what you said. so cut it back so im doing 100ml of a & b and then 33ml of additives so it makes it a third?
o shit i just got what you said. so cut it back so im doing 100ml of a & b and then 33ml of additives so it makes it a third?
phillipchristian
New Member
That's what I would do bro if you are using a baseline ppm throughout flower. If you are sticking to 300ppm throughout flower I would say a third is fine. Also try using the Big Bud and the Overdrive like I said. Pointless to use them at the same time. Even the AN feeding charts (which are so so) don't want you using them at the same time.
homebrewer
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i was never using them at the same time ive been following the calc and using overdrive the last 2 weeks. nice even though i only got 1 week left im gonna change out the res tomorrow to straighten things out asap and maximize yield. now that i think about it fuck that im not posting pics of the damaged crop there was too many problems and im not tryin to hear everyone talk shit. il post pics of the dried buds though. what im gonna do is on my new crop thats 11 days old im gonna show some pics tomorrow and then every week il take new pictures and document the grow till the end
i cant stand foxtales. it sucks to trim and i always feel like the plants dont yield the same. i need huge fat dense center colas
homebrewer
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No offense but that's totally weak sauce right there. You started this thread claiming DG wasn't working for you and that your preferred plant food was vastly superior. Now you're not posting pictures of 'what works for you' because your crop is damaged and there were too many problems??? To be honest though, I saw this coming and I wish you the best as you figure out what you're doing over there.
phillipchristian
New Member
Sounds good man. Keep me posted on the new grow. Wanna see how it turns out with the new nutrient formula.
i used dyna gro on this crop and that had alot to do with the issues i had. it would only be fair to post pics of a crop using the 2 part from day 1 and thats what im doing. you didnt see nothin comin il post some pics tomorrow
no doubt phillip thanks!
homebrewer
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The picture below is how your plant looked before you switched to your preferred plant food, no? I see no issues with the health of that plant. The problem is not the plant food you use, it's your knowledge base or your level of experience, or both.
And yes, I saw this coming from a mile away. I've seen your posts, I knew you had issues to work out before you start threads on what 'works' and what doesn't. Again, good luck to you on your next grow. My advice would be quit making things so hard on yourself. Ditch all those BS addtives you're working with and master the basics of keeping a plant healhty until harvest.
you love to argue. the only thing im gonna say is different nutes take different ppm. all my plants were a third smaller than last crop because of the dg and since i ran the sam ppm with a.n as last crop the plants were more sensitive and got burned and im still dialing in this strain. plus my plants never developed as much crystals as they should have because of the dg and thats another reason i dont wanna take pics. il take pics of this new crop so stop making a big deal outta nothing. a couple other people in this thread also noticed the same slow veg growth with dyna so im not the only one experiencing this. if a.n really does suck then this next crop should get fucked up too right? we'll see, im done with this conversation
Kite High
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I concur hb...needs to learn how to grow before his words mean anything...make Big Mike rich treeking...he'll love ya for it...and do let us know if you ever learn to grow trees..jus sayinThe picture below is how your plant looked before you switched to your preferred plant food, no? I see no issues with the health of that plant. The problem is not the plant food you use, it's your knowledge base or your level of experience, or both.
And yes, I saw this coming from a mile away. I've seen your posts, I knew you had issues to work out before you start threads on what 'works' and what doesn't. Again, good luck to you on your next grow. My advice would be quit making things so hard on yourself. Ditch all those BS addtives you're working with and master the basics of keeping a plant healhty until harvest.
when i have things dialed in i get a gram per watt with no veg time so you can **** ** ***.... figure it out