400w Querkle Grow
- Thread starter psyte
- Start date
ace720
Active Member
hey hey i got some querkle going.... well soon i willView attachment 2137486its still small as ou can see. well you you guys like what you got going on, is it worth it? the other cup is a THC BOMB i love that damn thing its a REALLY STRONG smoke and smells good to like fruits
psyte
Active Member
Very cool. Please feel free to share pics and info on this thread as you go.
As far as querkle being worth it... well... let's just say most people on here growing it don't seem to be too thrilled by it. The problem is it's a very slow vegger, a light producer, and tends to grow a lot of popcorn. On the up side, it has great bag appeal, smell, taste, and high. But not enough to make up for the poor yield imo. More of a connoisseur smoke you could say. Grow one and see if you like it, but I wouldn't fill my garden with it (although I have been for a while now lol) until you see if it's gonna work for you.
As far as querkle being worth it... well... let's just say most people on here growing it don't seem to be too thrilled by it. The problem is it's a very slow vegger, a light producer, and tends to grow a lot of popcorn. On the up side, it has great bag appeal, smell, taste, and high. But not enough to make up for the poor yield imo. More of a connoisseur smoke you could say. Grow one and see if you like it, but I wouldn't fill my garden with it (although I have been for a while now lol) until you see if it's gonna work for you.
ace720
Active Member
Thanks for the honest feedback - Im gonna try it and see what happens. The seed I got is from a pick-n-mix and its a reg seed so it might not even be a female. If it happens to be male do you think it would be good to mix with a thc bomb to get some seeds? idk - Im still pretty new to this so Im just going along with it.
psyte
Active Member
I would personally give it a shot just for the experience. Males are easy to flower, just make sure to keep it separate once the flowers start developing. I flowered one of my querkle males and collected a shit ton of pollen... but I guess I didn't store it right cause it didn't work when I used it. Probably best to use it right away if you can. It would be nice to have a bunch of free seeds. You can just pollinate a couple lower buds and get quite a few seeds and still keep the rest of the harvest seedless.
psyte
Active Member
Well I haven't been able to get it off my mind so I finally broke down and ordered a 5 pack of Jillybean.
He does have quite a few strains I want to try, but considering some Jillybean I had last year was the best stuff I've smoked in a long time... I had to go with that one. One of the only strains that doesn't make me tired or anxious, just a nice upbeat but chill high. Hell I might even start smoking again once I harvest some.
Tmac4302
Well-Known Member
Most likely you're applying too much heat to boil it off. It's only ever a sticky mess when the alcohol mixture gets over 250-300F. It decarboxylates the cannabinoids and turns the hash into a sticky mess. Much like why resin is sticky and takes forever to get it off of you. If you go out and buy an electric griddle for like 20 bucks at wally world, you can accurately turn it to 200 - 250 F and boil it off from there. The glass acts as a buffer, so when you have it at like 250 F, the alcohol mixture is actually at like 200F. This preserves the terpenes and flavinoids as well which vaporize at high 200's anyways. I use this method with trim all the time and it comes out golden-blonde and tastes like a potent version of the plant. Check out my signature. I have examples of what my hash set up and what my finish product looks like. It's not sticky and actually very stable. I don't have dabbing utensils either and all I use is a bong. If you use trim, don't break it up too much and do 2 or 3 quick agitations of iso for 1 min each. Filter and combine both washes into a pyrex dish. Then, as the last of the alcohol is boiling off, take an extended paper clip and whip it by spreading it as much across the pan as possible. You should see it turn from a glossy, clear golden color, to a thick blonde budder consistency. You shouldn't need a respirator if you have a fan directly blowing on the alcohol away from yourself, however it doesn't hurt to have one. I used to have that problem of it turning to a sticky mess till I figured out quick washes of alcohol, little to no breaking up of plant material, low heat, and whipping.
The dry ice method works pretty well from what I see. I just hate managing all that keif though. If it's in a grinder, awesome. All over my table and floor, fuck. lol Plus, pressing is always a bitch. Best of luck either method man. Stay stoney!
psyte
Active Member
I don't heat it to dry it out, I let it sit with a fan on it to dry. The only time I'll use a little heat is when it's almost completely dry and then I'll put it in the oven for a hour or two at around 150F, whipping it every 15min or so. At that point the consistency is very sticky and gooey both before and after the heating. I took a look at your pics and I can't imagine mine turning out like that... it's completely different. I've done 3 times so far, what you saw was what I would consider my least successful try cause I shouldn't have ground it up so fine, as you said. The first time I used buds that weren't broken up much and a very quick wash of only 1 minute of shaking in a jar. I also used a coffee filter to strain it and let it air dry w/ a fan. It was a sticky black mess. I can't imagine heating it the way you do would matter in the color change cause that's just speeding up the evaporation process. But that's the only thing that's really different, so maybe somehow that is the factor. If that is what's making the difference I suppose it doesn't matter anyway since I don't have anywhere safe to do that. The strange thing is that when mine is finished drying, there is a golden colored goo around the walls of the dish that is just like your hash, but the stuff at the bottom is always black.
I don't like the dry ice method either for the same reasons you listed. I meant ice hash where you mix the trim in a bucket of ice water and the cold breaks off the resin heads which sink to the bottom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhGNxUgFHcc
I don't like the dry ice method either for the same reasons you listed. I meant ice hash where you mix the trim in a bucket of ice water and the cold breaks off the resin heads which sink to the bottom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhGNxUgFHcc
psyte
Active Member
Oh, I wanted to ask also... do you dry your trim/buds completely crispy dry before making the hash, or are do they still have some moisture? I could see that making a difference since dry plant material would break off more easily when shaking. Maybe that's also part of my problem.
psyte
Active Member
My two new querkle seedlings are almost 6 weeks old and started showing small preflowers a few days ago. I can finally say with certainty that one is male and one is female. For the record that's 3 females, 3 males, and 1 dud out of 7 seeds.
The male is getting destroyed as I have no desire to breed querkle with anything. The female will be repotted today and put to flower in a couple weeks untopped (don't want to waste too much space on it), it should be about 18" tall at that point. We'll see if this pheno is any better than the one I have.
The male is getting destroyed as I have no desire to breed querkle with anything. The female will be repotted today and put to flower in a couple weeks untopped (don't want to waste too much space on it), it should be about 18" tall at that point. We'll see if this pheno is any better than the one I have.
AzCannaMan
Active Member
Man I must have gotten very luck with mine. I went for all 10 at 1 time and got 7 females, 2 males & 1 dud that didn't germ.
I gave the smallest girl away and killed the boys. They were all sprouted on 1/1/12, and I just flipped the 6 girls 1 week ago! They were 38-40" when I put them into bloom. Hopefully at least a few come out bomb. Also hopefully they don't double or more now that i flipped them... or I may be into the lights & I have a HUGE ceiling.
I gave the smallest girl away and killed the boys. They were all sprouted on 1/1/12, and I just flipped the 6 girls 1 week ago! They were 38-40" when I put them into bloom. Hopefully at least a few come out bomb. Also hopefully they don't double or more now that i flipped them... or I may be into the lights & I have a HUGE ceiling.
psyte
Active Member
Latest harvest has almost reached optimal cure level. It's probably somewhere around 65% RH (at 70F). I just mixed both harvests together so I need to verify the RH and probably burp a bit more before taking weights.
For reference, those are 1gal jars... but the buds are pretty fluffy so it probably looks like more than it is.
For reference, those are 1gal jars... but the buds are pretty fluffy so it probably looks like more than it is.
AzCannaMan
Active Member
I sure hope they are going to produce, these are some beasts! I was gonna pheno them all out & only keep the best one but after all the turmoil you guys are having with the yield and whatnot i just said fuck it and bloomed all the beasts lol!
2 Air Cooled Blockbuster Hoods, with 1,000 Watt Dual Arc's (600HPS & 400MH in each bulb). I have them running on dimable digital ballasts too. Since i moved them into the bloom room because I found the damn Mites again I put them to 400w each & ran them on 18/6 for a week while i eradicated the little devils... Then i switched them to 12/12 and 600w each for the first week, the other day i switched them to 1,000. It's just a little knob on my ballast i turn to dim it, no changing of the bulb. Just put a 1,000w bulb in there and away you go. It has 4 settings 400w, 600w, 1000w, and TURBO! No Shit, im scared to use it with my dual arc bulbs though lol. So I just run them on 1,000. It makes my electricity bill plenty high enough
AzCannaMan
Active Member
AzCannaMan
Active Member
Some pics of the Querkle Beasts in flower room for my Querkle growing buddies! Took these tonight, about 8 days flowering. (12/12)
The biggest one is 46" tall now. No that doesn't include the pot lol.
The biggest one is 46" tall now. No that doesn't include the pot lol.
ace720
Active Member
wow those are impressive
psyte
Active Member
Wow man, that sounds like a nice setup and those are some great looking plants. I think you're gonna do really good with that. I'm pretty sure a big part of my problem this last run was flowering a single plant that was just too big for a 400w light (especially with a strain that has such dense foliage). Since you got the 1000s I'm pretty sure you're gonna be seeing larger denser buds than what I got.
Btw, looking through subs gear I think the strain we all should have been growing instead of Querkle is Qrazy Train. It's pretty much got all the good traits of querkle but is a high yielder instead of light yielder. I may try that one out after a run of Jillybean.
Btw, looking through subs gear I think the strain we all should have been growing instead of Querkle is Qrazy Train. It's pretty much got all the good traits of querkle but is a high yielder instead of light yielder. I may try that one out after a run of Jillybean.
AzCannaMan
Active Member
Thanks Ace!wow those are impressive
Thanks Psyte! I sure hope I get some good size buds man, it's funny you mention the Qrazy Train; i almost bought that one when the attitude was out of Querkle. I wasitd for the Querkle though lol. Shit I just checked Sub's website; i DEF would have gone with it had i have seen this first. Sub lists Querkle as a light producer & 60-70 Days harvest time. Qrazy train is only 50-55 Day and a heavy producer! DOH!!!!!
http://tgagenetics.com/strain.php
Perhaps Sub would be kind enough to hop in here & let us know what of his gear is on the higher yielding end of the spectrum???
The Subcool one I Really want is the Pink Pheno of a Plush berry, i didnt get it because it was a light yielder though. Shit guess I should have gotten it anyway since the Querkle is too...