Inda-gro Induction...

PetFlora

Well-Known Member
Didnt mean to offend the other day dude... i was smokeless that day! I just wanna see positive shit in the thread about inda-gro!

Apology accepted! We can all have a bad day. And I am aware many here are dealing with chronic pain, and most pharma meds have mood swing side effects. I was on 20-30mg of Prednizone per day for over 20 years. It gave me a really short fuse!

My point about mimicking nature was strictly from a light/spectrum standpoint relative to veg or flower phase. Nature can be a bitch when it comes to bad weather, humidity...
 

brotherjericho

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My biggest question is: if this technology has been around for so long, why do the lights still cost so frickin' much? That's the biggest deterrent for most when you couple the price with actual grows by non-biased sources. Sure you supposedly save in the long run, but I'm still waiting to see more than one decent grow or two before I would consider induction vs LED or other forms of fluorescent.
 

tet1953

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My biggest question is: if this technology has been around for so long, why do the lights still cost so frickin' much? That's the biggest deterrent for most when you couple the price with actual grows by non-biased sources. Sure you supposedly save in the long run, but I'm still waiting to see more than one decent grow or two before I would consider induction vs LED or other forms of fluorescent.
Good point, brother. And, with certainly no offense directed at anyone I want to see results from people who don't sound an awful lot like they have a stake in the company. Nothing wrong with talking up a product you believe in either, I do it all the time.
 

Splifferous

New Member
yes! time does tell!

lights come on in 2.5 hours... i'll shoot and post a new vid.

last night i made the executive decision to somewhat end my comparison run.. the HPS was being an absolute waste of light and causing the plants under it to make buds that skimp in comparison to what my dear sweet PDP is doing under the 420PAR. we ARE talking about my and my wife's meds here, and as far as i'm concerned i've seen enough to know that HPS equals insufficient; it is in my best interest now, working with what i have, to spread the shorter of my 4 out under the mover and let that HPS hobble its one plant along... that way i at least get the back half of the timetable to let the 420PAR make up for the HPS shortcomings on the ones that i know have been held back because of it's limited spectrum and waste of input energy.
 

Buck123

Well-Known Member
Haha spliff you for real man? you made your mind up that quick? I really hope you get an awesome weight man!
 

Splifferous

New Member
My biggest question is: if this technology has been around for so long, why do the lights still cost so frickin' much? That's the biggest deterrent for most when you couple the price with actual grows by non-biased sources. Sure you supposedly save in the long run, but I'm still waiting to see more than one decent grow or two before I would consider induction vs LED or other forms of fluorescent.
the technology as Nikola Tesla invented it in the 1890s is rather different (in applied materials and such) from how modern manufacturers apply it today. back then, they did not have ballasts capable of achieving a 2.65mHz output signal. borosilicate glass...? forget about it. you think 800$ for a lamp that is warrantied for a whole solid decade is a lot of money? thats 80$ a year. seems pretty inexpensive when compared to HID bulb costs, wouldn't you agree? did you check out that SolarStorm LED thing? friggin monstrosity with imbalanced output at almost 2 grand.. and 800w draw.

i'm sorry if you feel that my bias here is in direct regard to Inda-Gro. for your information, i'm an environmental studies major. my focus is on sustainable indoor horticulture. for 2 years, that focus was on indoor suburban food production. organic and in the home. IN the home; indoor lighting and fanatical attention to overall cost of operation, as the way i see it, huge electric bills not only buy PGE execs summer homes, but they also necessitate the installation of hydroelectric dams up and down our rivers that eff up the local watersheds and impede the seasonal movements of fish. i spent about a year researching LED and Sulfur Plasma Induction, EFDL, CMH, and LPS before i took over my own grow from my initial OMMP grower.

my first lamps for my own grow were a 200w and a 400w EFDL from a company that due to their inferior product quality i will not name here (the 400w suffered a failed ballast on month 11 from its date of manufacture - after literally 1.5 months of 18/6 and less than one month of 12/12). i will, however post a pic here of their surviving 200w vs the Inda-Gro 200PAR. the PAR is on the right with the brownish housing, but i will include incremental top-to-bottom pics so that you skeptics here can see that i'm not trying to pull anything tricky on you.

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despite the fact that these first EFDL lamps now show to be inferior to Inda-Gro EFDL, they did, none the less, demonstrate clearly that this lighting technology outperforms HID. Hence my personal choice to purchase my 200- and 420-PARs from Darryl at Inda-Gro rather than spend the 200$ on the ballast that the other company wanted to sell me to rectify the issue of their failed 400w. ya... figure that out... i'm stumped how that works for them.

but i digress.

what i am most passionate about here is a cost effective solution to the indoor cultivation of the highest quality herb possible. hands down, the electric bill is the biggest issue that all indoor pharmers have in common, and the choice of light is at the very heart of that. i am passionate about quality herb, small electric bills, paradigm shifts, and the ability of the individual to be able to do right by their own standard of measure. that's why i'm being so open with my experience with these lights. i do not work for Inda-Gro, but i am on a first name basis with Darryl. i'm not "elite" like that; he's a wonderful and very approachable guy. he's all about MMJ and power to the people, and would happily talk with any of you in regards to his products. call him and chat for yourself. i won't post his contact info here, but it's readily available on www.inda-gro.com. i do have an interest in Inda-Gro; i would love to see them grow their market share and have a national impact on changing the face on indoor gardening for the better. as their share increases, their prices will come down - all other technologies are like that. but don't get crazy with cost comparisons... if you had to fell a tree, would you choose a chainsaw or an axe? axes cost less but chainsaws do the job better, with a different technological approach to the task. i think that's a rather fair analogy for the comparison between HID and Inda-Gro. it's different. it's better.

what i do, is stand behind my high opinion of these lamps. they are amazing. this isn't about endorsing lamps because i have a commission coming my way, it's a case of love for the common man, and the want for us to be able to take control of a large portion of our monthly finances back from the utility companies. it's about my love of herb. if it's worth growing at all, it's worth growing it with the utmost passion and attention to the needs of the plant. it's about a sacred medicine, and our right to be able to provide for our own needs.

anyways, i need to get back to my BHO run. i'll check back later.

be well yall
 

Splifferous

New Member
@PSUAGRO: idk... phillips is a hard brand for me to fan-boy for... it's cool that you dig them tho! i'm pretty visual, but was unable to locate pics of their whatever it is on their site... maybe i was too hasty... but on a fast read, i noted the line about the light to grow healthy plants. growing plants in a vegetative mode is one thing, like lettuce, spinach, or cabbage... very simple.

we all know how flowering metabolism changes things in regards to details to attend to in an indoor garden, but not too many light manufacturers pay attention to the needs of resinous plants to have appreciable levels of UV-B in their spectrum. the Inda-Gro PAR lamps have that base covered. for those of you that are unfamiliar with UV-B and cannabis, enjoy the video:
[video=youtube;lfiI78uN3Ks]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfiI78uN3Ks[/video]

ya... guy in the video seems kinda like a burn-out... that's not the point. he's dropping science there. good science. so sit back and pack one, roll one, dab one, whatever. get medicated and get educated.

for some reason, tho we're strangers here, i want to help all of you to grow better nugs.

peace and love
 

Buck123

Well-Known Member
the technology as Nikola Tesla invented it in the 1890s is rather different (in applied materials and such) from how modern manufacturers apply it today. back then, they did not have ballasts capable of achieving a 2.65mHz output signal. borosilicate glass...? forget about it. you think 800$ for a lamp that is warrantied for a whole solid decade is a lot of money? thats 80$ a year. seems pretty inexpensive when compared to HID bulb costs, wouldn't you agree? did you check out that SolarStorm LED thing? friggin monstrosity with imbalanced output at almost 2 grand.. and 800w draw.

i'm sorry if you feel that my bias here is in direct regard to Inda-Gro. for your information, i'm an environmental studies major. my focus is on sustainable indoor horticulture. for 2 years, that focus was on indoor suburban food production. organic and in the home. IN the home; indoor lighting and fanatical attention to overall cost of operation, as the way i see it, huge electric bills not only buy PGE execs summer homes, but they also necessitate the installation of hydroelectric dams up and down our rivers that eff up the local watersheds and impede the seasonal movements of fish. i spent about a year researching LED and Sulfur Plasma Induction, EFDL, CMH, and LPS before i took over my own grow from my initial OMMP grower.

my first lamps for my own grow were a 200w and a 400w EFDL from a company that due to their inferior product quality i will not name here (the 400w suffered a failed ballast on month 11 from its date of manufacture - after literally 1.5 months of 18/6 and less than one month of 12/12). i will, however post a pic here of their surviving 200w vs the Inda-Gro 200PAR. the PAR is on the right with the brownish housing, but i will include incremental top-to-bottom pics so that you skeptics here can see that i'm not trying to pull anything tricky on you.

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despite the fact that these first EFDL lamps now show to be inferior to Inda-Gro EFDL, they did, none the less, demonstrate clearly that this lighting technology outperforms HID. Hence my personal choice to purchase my 200- and 420-PARs from Darryl at Inda-Gro rather than spend the 200$ on the ballast that the other company wanted to sell me to rectify the issue of their failed 400w. ya... figure that out... i'm stumped how that works for them.

but i digress.

what i am most passionate about here is a cost effective solution to the indoor cultivation of the highest quality herb possible. hands down, the electric bill is the biggest issue that all indoor pharmers have in common, and the choice of light is at the very heart of that. i am passionate about quality herb, small electric bills, paradigm shifts, and the ability of the individual to be able to do right by their own standard of measure. that's why i'm being so open with my experience with these lights. i do not work for Inda-Gro, but i am on a first name basis with Darryl. i'm not "elite" like that; he's a wonderful and very approachable guy. he's all about MMJ and power to the people, and would happily talk with any of you in regards to his products. call him and chat for yourself. i won't post his contact info here, but it's readily available on www.inda-gro.com. i do have an interest in Inda-Gro; i would love to see them grow their market share and have a national impact on changing the face on indoor gardening for the better. as their share increases, their prices will come down - all other technologies are like that. but don't get crazy with cost comparisons... if you had to fell a tree, would you choose a chainsaw or an axe? axes cost less but chainsaws do the job better, with a different technological approach to the task. i think that's a rather fair analogy for the comparison between HID and Inda-Gro. it's different. it's better.

what i do, is stand behind my high opinion of these lamps. they are amazing. this isn't about endorsing lamps because i have a commission coming my way, it's a case of love for the common man, and the want for us to be able to take control of a large portion of our monthly finances back from the utility companies. it's about my love of herb. if it's worth growing at all, it's worth growing it with the utmost passion and attention to the needs of the plant. it's about a sacred medicine, and our right to be able to provide for our own needs.

anyways, i need to get back to my BHO run. i'll check back later.

be well yall
Spliff with 1000 views yesterday on this thread its fair to say your turning heads!
 

PSUAGRO.

Well-Known Member
^^^^ I agree with that/ we are all here to help each other have better nugs/grows.........And your doing a great job at it........
But as many people know i'm a big fan of CMH(retrowhite) by philips and been using them for some time as a great veg/clone/flower lamp....but this new agro cmh system takes it to a new level(dimmable/finally!) and a very high efficiency/per watts consumed.....But you are pushing the envelope with efdl's that not many can replicate(IMO)

anyways your a great grower and I hope for the best meds for you and your wife:)........happy growing


Edit: PS you can download the brochure of it on the bottom of the page/shows the fixture and it's amazing specs....
 

Splifferous

New Member
^^^^ I agree with that/ we are all here to help each other have better nugs/grows.........And your doing a great job at it........
But as many people know i'm a big fan of CMH(retrowhite) by philips and been using them for some time as a great veg/clone/flower lamp....but this new agro cmh system takes it to a new level(dimmable/finally!) and a very high efficiency/per watts consumed.....But you are pushing the envelope with efdl's that not many can replicate(IMO)

anyways your a great grower and I hope for the best meds for you and your wife:)........happy growing


Edit: PS you can download the brochure of it on the bottom of the page/shows the fixture and it's amazing specs....

thanks for pointing that out to me, yep, i had missed it. i need to get in to water the ladies tonight, but i'll check it out in the near future. and thanks for your kind words regarding my plants. i'm sure that i still have a great deal to learn, but on that path i'm more than happy to share what i do​ know.

BUT.... as promised... here's my newest update:
[video=youtube_share;GEEXYtSYiZo]http://youtu.be/GEEXYtSYiZo[/video]

hope you all like it. if there's any questions, or if anyone wants to see a vid of something in particular (ie: better view of something or w/e), i'm sure that i can accommodate.

be well!

love and light
 

Buck123

Well-Known Member
thanks for pointing that out to me, yep, i had missed it. i need to get in to water the ladies tonight, but i'll check it out in the near future. and thanks for your kind words regarding my plants. i'm sure that i still have a great deal to learn, but on that path i'm more than happy to share what i do​ know.

BUT.... as promised... here's my newest update:
[video=youtube_share;GEEXYtSYiZo]http://youtu.be/GEEXYtSYiZo[/video]

hope you all like it. if there's any questions, or if anyone wants to see a vid of something in particular (ie: better view of something or w/e), i'm sure that i can accommodate.

be well!

love and light
Thanks man looking the goods! grow you good things!
 

Splifferous

New Member
Spliff with 1000 views yesterday on this thread its fair to say your turning heads!
i don't doubt it. seriously, this Pro-420-PAR feels like its my secret weapon or something... like that one unidentified secret ingredient in the colonel's recipe..

i have the distinct feeling that those who have been in the know before me felt that it was in the best interest of the marketability of their herb for others to not know about these lamps. seriously, Tesla invented them in 1891, if i recall, and i only heard abut them a year ago. and i'm a huge friggin nerd! i know all about technology in a timely manner. and these were an absolute surprise.

feels like a conspiracy to keep his technologies suppressed.

Tesla was very unfortunate in that regard. like the Wardenclyffe Tower.... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardenclyffe_Tower). JPMorgan (not the bank, but the douchebag that namesaked the bank) was the financial backing until he realized the free energy aspect of it. "where do i put the meter?" was his concern before he pulled his backing.

bottom line is that anything that Tesla invented automatically gets my attention. theres many companies out there with their own takes on EFDL, but Inda-Gro does it plant style.
 

Buck123

Well-Known Member
i don't doubt it. seriously, this Pro-420-PAR feels like its my secret weapon or something... like that one unidentified secret ingredient in the colonel's recipe..

i have the distinct feeling that those who have been in the know before me felt that it was in the best interest of the marketability of their herb for others to not know about these lamps. seriously, Tesla invented them in 1891, if i recall, and i only heard abut them a year ago. and i'm a huge friggin nerd! i know all about technology in a timely manner. and these were an absolute surprise.

feels like a conspiracy to keep his technologies suppressed.

Tesla was very unfortunate in that regard. like the Wardenclyffe Tower.... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardenclyffe_Tower). JPMorgan (not the bank, but the douchebag that namesaked the bank) was the financial backing until he realized the free energy aspect of it. "where do i put the meter?" was his concern before he pulled his backing.

bottom line is that anything that Tesla invented automatically gets my attention. theres many companies out there with their own takes on EFDL, but Inda-Gro does it plant style.
Yeh im not a mass tech head or anything just a regular guy got sucked into the led light revolution lol found induction a while ago just glad someone with the brains can break it all down for the simpletons! There's been questioning over the flowering sides of things but things are getting set straight thats for sure that PDP is a beauty man nice big buds too!
 

brotherjericho

Well-Known Member
the technology as Nikola Tesla invented it in the 1890s is rather different (in applied materials and such) from how modern manufacturers apply it today. back then, they did not have ballasts capable of achieving a 2.65mHz output signal. borosilicate glass...? forget about it. you think 800$ for a lamp that is warrantied for a whole solid decade is a lot of money? thats 80$ a year. seems pretty inexpensive when compared to HID bulb costs, wouldn't you agree? did you check out that SolarStorm LED thing? friggin monstrosity with imbalanced output at almost 2 grand.. and 800w draw.

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Warranties often have stipulations and are worthless if the company is not around in 10 years, so trotting that out is not convincing. Plus, warranties also do not cover things like accidents. One sharp blow to the bulb, and you're looking at several hundred dollars.

And borosilicate glass? 1893. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borosilicate_glass

I am a skeptic by nature. I need to see real results by several unbiased sources before willing to sink my own hard earned money into something. This thread has been the only real positive one I've seen for induction on the net. All the others start out great (veg) then end up "meh" when it comes flower time. I'm not paying $500+ for "meh". So please understand my heavy skepticism.
 

Splifferous

New Member
yes, in germany, 2 years after Nikola invented Induction Lighting, and Boro didn't make it stateside (as Pyrex, by Corning) until 1915. don't be so eager to make a facile point that is tangential if anything. at least read what you link.

and on the topic of warranties, that goes for any company on the market. the way technologies change, i'd be hard pressed to list 5 companies that would still be here in a decade. another way of looking at it is that most LED mfgrs put a 2 year warranty on something that they say has a 5 year lifespan, and charge 2x what these run, and fan-boys like you seem to be come running... These have a 10 year warranty on something that realistically will burn strong for 7 or so years... apples and oranges my friend. if you are afraid of busting bulbs, then don't bust them. at least if these break under power, it won't explode and burn my effing house down. oh ya, and i can give foliar feedings AT ANY TIME without burning the plants, and if the spray mists the Inda... i don't freak out. it's cool enough to touch for brief moments. care to provide us feedback regarding the pleasantness of touching an HPS bulb (of any wattage) that's at full burn temp? if you do have a story on this topic, then i guess that would make me understand your fear of being clumsy with the bulbs, and would have to condone your choice to continue playing with cheap toys.

and you apparently don't look at video or photo evidence. i have posted sufficient of both to indicate that 'meh' is exactly what HPS delivers.

feel free to come at me bro, just think about it first.

also, please don't take anything i say personally. i don't know you from Adam, and i'm not trying to get you to spend a cent on anything. personally i fail to see how you think i have an interest on any level how good your herb is (or isn't) or how much money you waste growing it.

i love these lamps.. i'm just trying to share my real life experience. please note that i am sharing evidence, not opinion.
 
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