Obama administration's war on women

[Johnny Retro]

The Obama administration cuts billions from the health care fund 5 months ago.

The Republican's cut student loan rates by cutting spending from heath care fund.

Dem's call the Republican bill a war on women, but no mention of the cuts THEY passed 5 months ago. So why isn't the Obama administration being ridiculed for a "war on women"

LOL!

And the hypocrisy continues... Typical dems..

http://factcheck.org/2012/05/white-house-spins-womens-health/

Discuss.....

 

[bostoner]

Well the problem I have with what you are saying is that the democrats cut it across the board. Wasn't just cutting funds for womans health groups only. Sometimes cuts are made and I'm sure with good reason. That 15 billion was cut to 10 billion to pay for other things. Which Repulicans had been pushing to remove completely anyways. So 10 billions better than nothing. Republican on the other hand want to cut out specifically the part that covers womans health products such as mammograms and birth control. This is why they are yelling a war on women which is pretty overblown to say if you ask me but anything goes when the election is coming up. Obama wants to allocate the funds to put a cap on student loans and keep them cheap too. He just wants to bleed an over stuffed defense budget to do it. A better alternative if you ask me than just sticking it to women who dont want babies or breast cancer. Plus some women have horrible cramps and birth control helps and lets them skip a week of pain once and a while so its not all about babies and sex like some republican politicians would like to have you believe. Not everything has to be about the bible. Our defense budget is bloated anyways. We spend nearly 5 times as much as the runner up in defense expenses which is china. We own own 41 percent of the worlds weapons. Number 2 china has 8 a little over 8 percent. I think we can spare 5 billion of the over 700 billion we spend.

 

[UncleBuck]

Well the problem I have with what you are saying is that the democrats cut it across the board. Wasn't just cutting funds for womans health groups only. Sometimes cuts are made and I'm sure with good reason. That 15 billion was cut to 10 billion to pay for other things. Which Repulicans had been pushing to remove completely anyways. So 10 billions better than nothing. Republican on the other hand want to cut out specifically the part that covers womans health products such as mammograms and birth control. This is why they are yelling a war on women which is pretty overblown to say if you ask me but anything goes when the election is coming up. Obama wants to allocate the funds to put a cap on student loans and keep them cheap too. He just wants to bleed an over stuffed defense budget to do it. A better alternative if you ask me than just sticking it to women who dont want babies or breast cancer. Plus some women have horrible cramps and birth control helps and lets them skip a week of pain once and a while so its not all about babies and sex like some republican politicians would like to have you believe. Not everything has to be about the bible. Our defense budget is bloated anyways. We spend nearly 5 times as much as the runner up in defense expenses which is china. We own own 41 percent of the worlds weapons. Number 2 china has 8 a little over 8 percent. I think we can spare 5 billion of the over 700 billion we spend.

good analysis.

johnny retro is resorting to an old tactic:

unfortunately for him and his "chosen one", mr. romney, it isn't working.

 

[Johnny Retro]

Well the problem I have with what you are saying is that the democrats cut it across the board. Wasn't just cutting funds for womans health groups only. Sometimes cuts are made and I'm sure with good reason. That 15 billion was cut to 10 billion to pay for other things. Which Repulicans had been pushing to remove completely anyways. So 10 billions better than nothing. Republican on the other hand want to cut out specifically the part that covers womans health products such as mammograms and birth control. This is why they are yelling a war on women which is pretty overblown to say if you ask me but anything goes when the election is coming up. Obama wants to allocate the funds to put a cap on student loans and keep them cheap too. He just wants to bleed an over stuffed defense budget to do it. A better alternative if you ask me than just sticking it to women who dont want babies or breast cancer. Plus some women have horrible cramps and birth control helps and lets them skip a week of pain once and a while so its not all about babies and sex like some republican politicians would like to have you believe. Not everything has to be about the bible. Our defense budget is bloated anyways. We spend nearly 5 times as much as the runner up in defense expenses which is china. We own own 41 percent of the worlds weapons. Number 2 china has 8 a little over 8 percent. I think we can spare 5 billion of the over 700 billion we spend.

That's exactly whats in question. The Prevention and Public health fund is said to cover: "control the obesity epidemic, fight health disparities, detect and quickly respond to health threats, reduce tobacco use, train the nation’s public health workforce, modernize vaccine systems, prevent the spread of HIV/AIDS, increase public health programs’ effectiveness and efficiency, and improve access to behavioral health services"
There is no mention or proof of any women health services.

And please do not mistake republican politicians with ultra conservative talk show hosts.

 

[Johnny Retro]

Buck, please find my post where I endorse Romney. Again, your assumptions run wild.

And your graphs have nothing to do with the discussion, we are discussing the so called war on women that the media over blows. Never did I say that Obama's approval rating with women was lower than Romney's.

 

[UncleBuck]

Buck, please find my post where I endorse Romney. Again, your assumptions run wild.

And your graphs have nothing to do with the discussion, we are discussing the so called war on women that the media over blows. Never did I say that Obama's approval rating with women was lower than Romney's.

you're carrying romney's muddy water on this one, it's a de facto endorsement of romney.

we all know who owns this "war on women", and it isn't the party that wants to let them have control over their bodies or make sure they have access to important medicine.

 

[Johnny Retro]

No, it is not a "de facto endorsement of Romney". You assume things because you narrowly believe every republican believes in what the front runner believes. Your MSNBC talking points are running thin.

I am pointing out a blatantly false accusation that the democratic party puts on the republicans.

 

[UncleBuck]

No, it is not a "de facto endorsement of Romney". You assume things because you narrowly believe every republican believes in what the front runner believes. Your MSNBC talking points are running thin.

I am pointing out an obviously blantent false accusation that the democratic party puts on the repulicans.

so republicans aren't trying to make life tougher on women?

i can't even remember how many states are introducing mandatory, medically unnecessary, ultrasounds (virginia tried to sneak through transvaginal ultrasounds!).

women in arizona are all pregnant now. all of them. http://rt.com/usa/news/arizona-bill-conception-abortion-387/

speaking of arizona, how about we let women in that state have their employer dictate their medical decisions for them? http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-03-15/news/31198636_1_employers-contraception-new-bill

oh, did they also try to let employers decide what health care women could have access to nationwide? i believe they did! http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/rubio-calls-failure-blunt-amendment-setback-religious-freedoms

we all know that health care decision are best made by your employer, not between you and your doctor.

i remember back in 2010 when the gop was all about jobs. jobs bills passed? ZERO. on the other hand...

state legislatures are also super focused on jobs.

remember the old aspirin between the knees remark? not isolated.

the GOP owns the war on women.

 

[bostoner]

So your argument being what? I don't get it. Obama giveth and he can takeith away. Yes the act the obama administration put together in the first place does cover all those things. The feb cuts don't completely eliminate those programs. Just less funding from this particular avenue will be given. Last fiscal year 60 million dollars was federally funded for tobacco preventions without any help from this act. Plus I'll make it easier on them. Just make tobacco illegal. I'd love it. I smoke a pack a day and can't kick them. If they were illegal they wouldn't be worth the trouble. Big tobacco wouldn't be happy and I'm sure they line some important pants pockets so its just a dream. Anyways... Democrats haven't slashed womens anything. Republicans are throwing them in front of the defense budget. This is where you get this war on women from. The only thing reasonable the right media has gotten right about the democrats disservice to woman is that more women have lost their jobs in the obama administration. This is true but if you look at job loss trend women traditionally lose their jobs after men. First cut are the laborers then the paper pushers. Not to say women can't be laborers... just take the auto crash. Bush saw that one and a lot of men lost their jobs first and women soon followed leaking into the obama administration. And you argument don't confuse politicians with over zealous "news" hosts This is exactly that. Both polars of the media have used this war on women slogan. The democrats just thought it up first. Romney campaign has been nothing but a parrot of the obama administration. You put a dog on your roof.... you ate dog and bugs as a kid. ... you hate women..... no you do. The friggen clip where that lady talked about romneys' wife never working a day in her life (which is true , motherhood is a job.... please not when your loaded and you have live in nannies and a car elevator..... that right a car elevator guess his cars are afraid of ramps, give me a break) and then the republicans bashing the administration for a statement they had no involvement in, no matter how true it is. When both sides are playing the same game and the one you aren't rooting for is winning, you cant call cheating if both sides are using the same rules.

 

[Johnny Retro]

If you don't have insurance that covers birth control, you can go to Wal-Mart or Target, which offers it for 9$ a month.

Abortion is a tricky subject. Yes of course 2 weeks before contraception is ridiculous, but where do we draw the line in the sand? I am all for free choice, but the thought of taking a life away is just horrendous.

 

[Johnny Retro]

bo, I am making the argument that the bill to cut student loan interest rate's will be funded by the same cuts made by the Obama administration. Democrat's are using this as another "war on women" tactic on the repub's that is pure hypocrisy.

 

[UncleBuck]

If you don't have insurance that covers birth control, you can go to Wal-Mart or Target, which offers it for 9$ a month.

it's a prescription drug, you have to visit a doctor first, too. and you assume all people live near a walmart or target. by the way, you need to cite that claim.

my wife pays several hundred dollars every year for birth control, which she uses not only for responsible family planning practice (reduces the number of abortions if you act responsibly in the first place) but also because the cramps she would suffer without would keep her from school and work. what she pays is fairly standard.

Abortion is a tricky subject. Yes of course 2 weeks before contraception is ridiculous, but where do we draw the line in the sand? I am all for free choice, but the thought of taking a life away is just horrendous.

abortion is a tricky subject, but mandating unnecessary medical procedures is not tricky at all. if a doctor sees no need for a procedure, but a republican legislator with no medical training does, who are you going to trust?

while we're on the subject of things that are not at all tricky, how about who should get a say in your health care? count me in for me and my doctor. the GOP thinks otherwise, they think your employer should have a say as well.

i'm not the brightest bulb in the box, but i don't think my employer has any business making medical decisions for me. but every last GOP senator does.

whose war on women is this again? LOL!

 

[Carne Seca]

The new GOP strategy, "I know you are but what am I?"

 

[UncleBuck]

The new GOP strategy, "I know you are but what am I?"

muddying the waters is the GOP's way of saying "we are confident in the idiocy of the american people".

too bad for them that women are voting more and more and men are voting less and less, and women do pay attention to who is on their side.

 

[UncleBuck]

yep, the 99% of women who will use contraception don't care about the contraception.

lol, GOP logic.

 

[UncleBuck]

an appealing message to women voters everywhere, courtesy of the billionaire who was propping up santorum.

should sell well in the general, no?

 

[UncleBuck]

So Miss Fluke, and the rest of you Feminazis, here’s the deal. If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex. We want something for it. We want you post the videos online so we can all watch.

 

[Carne Seca]

It scares the living shit out of me. These are the people that want to run our nation. These are the people that are RUNNING our nation. I just hope to God that people realize (after the tea-party take over) you need more than a Democrat president to make true change. The Senate and House need a strong majority. Otherwise, we're back to four more years of bullshit obstruction and sabotage.

 

[UncleBuck]

"You just have to close your eyes"

 

[UncleBuck]

being a single mom is tantamount to child abuse