question for expert organic tea makers.

Da Almighty Jew

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ok if everybody will take the time to read i will explain why i thought the tea smelled bad. I bubbled my ingredients for 36 hrs prior before adding molasses and ewc and i personally think blood, bone and guano smell bad, It still had a earthy smell to it though. After i added the ewc and molasses it smells much better
 

stak

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the blood and bone meal will do pretty much nothing in your tea so I hope you top dress with the leftover sludge from the tea. At least this way the blood and bone meal will get into the soil and might have a chance to benefit the plant.
 

Da Almighty Jew

Well-Known Member
the blood and bone meal will do pretty much nothing in your tea so I hope you top dress with the leftover sludge from the tea. At least this way the blood and bone meal will get into the soil and might have a chance to benefit the plant.
btw your right about the bone but blood meal i think is 90% water soluble.. Also boiling bone meal for 30 minutes releases alot of nutrients. Im thinking bubbling for a few days could release alot too.
 

Da Almighty Jew

Well-Known Member
it's not




it doesn't




it won't



it's a waste of time. but rock on man. do what you do.
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For animals that feed on blood, see Hematophagy.
Blood meal is a dry, inert powder made from blood used as a high-nitrogen fertilizer and a high protein animal feed. N = 13.25%, P = 1.0%, K = 0.6%. It is one of the highest non-synthetic sources of nitrogen. Blood meal is completely soluble and can be mixed with water to be used as a liquid fertilizer. It usually comes from cattle as a slaughterhouse by-product. It can be spread on gardens to deter animals such as rabbits,[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP] or as a composting activator. It may also be used as an animal food supplement[SUP][3][/SUP] for cattle, fish and poultry and is in fact widely used due to the high lysine content. In some countries, it is mixed with molasses before use as animal feed.[SUP][4][/SUP] At least one major marketer is offering blood meal derived from hogs, as an alternative to bovine-derived product.
Blood meal, bone meal, and other animal by-products are permitted in certified organic production as soil amendments, though they cannot be fed to organic livestock. Blood meal is different from bone meal in that blood meal contains a much higher amount of nitrogen, while bone meal contains phosphorus.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]
Nitrogen is more typically missing from soils than the other elements provided by most fertilizers (phosphorus and potassium). Plants grown in soil lacking proper amounts of nitrogen will yellow from the leaves down due to nitrogen deficiency. Applying blood meal will help plants become green again.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]
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jamboss

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try this recipe

with 5 gallons of water
2 cups of cow and sheep compost
6.5 tablespoons of molasses
.75 tablespoon of the neptunes harvest

and if you have or can get kelp meal and soft rock phosphate include them in the brew
3.25 tablespoons of kelp meal
.75 tablespoons of soft rock phosphate


I brew it for about 36 hours
Tnx, I'm done.
 

Kb's seeds

Active Member
blood meal isnt as water soluble as u say but im not gonna argue about that blood meal can be used in teas but it sounds to me like ur makin what i call a fertilizer tea, the only things ur adding to ur tea that has benificials in it is ur earthworm castings and ur bird guano, also using tap water isnt the best idea cause even if u do let the chlorine dissapate u still have alota minerals in ur water which will build up salts around ur root zone makin it harder for ur microbes to breath, the whole point with compost teas is to innoculate ur soil with a good amount of benifical microbes, i also dont understand why u bubble ur blood and bone meal longer but im sure u have ur reasons, and bubblin ur teas that long is gonna create anaerobic bacteria which is all bad for ur plants, benifical bacteria are most active in the 12 to 24hrs time period and thas not my opinion thas been proved by science, trying reading the book teaming with microbes or the compost tea brewing manual 5th edition by dr.elaine ingham
 

Kb's seeds

Active Member
im not just talkin out my ass ive attended multiply classes of compost and compost teas and the earthworm soil factory and ive talked to the rev alot about compost teas and the best tea recipes, ur tea recipe is a fertilizer tea ur only major microbe source is ur ewc, a true compost tea is made from compost, good compost will have alota available nutrition cause the componts of the compost have already been broken down by the microbes, using vermicompost is a good way to get the benifits of wormcastings, also worm castings are bacteria dominant and are used to make bacteria dominant teas, if u really want the best outa ur teas during flower ul want to add a fungi dominant tea, but since u already have a "good" recipe u shouldnt worry about what others are trying to tell u to help u, there are alota threads on this site about making actively aerated compost teas, since u asked others to help but seem to not like the answers read the threads on compost teas so u know were all not tryin to bullshit u
 

Da Almighty Jew

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also using tap water isnt the best idea cause even if u do let the chlorine dissapate u still have alota minerals in ur water which will build up salts around ur root zone makin it harder for ur microbes to breath,

I use half tap water half ro water.

i also dont understand why u bubble ur blood and bone meal longer but im sure u have ur reasons, and bubblin ur teas that long is gonna create anaerobic bacteria which is all bad for ur plants

I bubble everything prior without molasses to get it more soluble.. I agree it may be an un needed step. Can you please show me the proof that bubbling your teas longer makes it go anaerobic.


trying reading the book teaming with microbes or the compost tea brewing manual 5th edition by dr.elaine ingham

I have read teaming with microbes, thank you very much.

if u really want the best outa ur teas during flower ul want to add a fungi dominant tea, but since u already have a "good" recipe u shouldnt worry about what others are trying to tell u to help u

Oh im sorry, so since i have a tea that i use and posted it means that i can not use different teas??
 

Kb's seeds

Active Member
well i could list quite a few references by botonist about brew times on compost teas but to be honest its not worth my time, as long as ur air stone has enough power to not let any organic material sit on the bottom of ur tea brewer than u should be good, it when ur air stone isnt strong enough and lets that shit just sit is when u will start to have problems , maybe reading the compost tea brewing manual 5th edition ul come across debates on brewing time, like i said brewing for longer than 24hrs its gonna create a dominace of protozoa and ciliate, which isnt bad a thing if thas what u were brewing for, protozoa shred the microbes in the soil givin ur plants a good nutrient boost (microbes guts are basically little bags of humus), its already proven most beneficial bacteria are most active within 12 to 24 hrs, but da vinci said something that makes alota since i believe it went "we know more about the movement of celestial bodies than we do about the soil underfoot" which i agree with, we dont know much about microbes and are discovering new ones all the time, the posssibilites are endless, so keep brewing longer u never know u might find something beneficial outa doing it, but try going with all RO water, most citys have chlorimine which doesnt dissapate out no matter how long u let it sit
 

Da Almighty Jew

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well i could list quite a few references by botonist about brew times on compost teas but to be honest its not worth my time, as long as ur air stone has enough power to not let any organic material sit on the bottom of ur tea brewer than u should be good, it when ur air stone isnt strong enough and lets that shit just sit is when u will start to have problems , maybe reading the compost tea brewing manual 5th edition ul come across debates on brewing time, like i said brewing for longer than 24hrs its gonna create a dominace of protozoa and ciliate, which isnt bad a thing if thas what u were brewing for, protozoa shred the microbes in the soil givin ur plants a good nutrient boost (microbes guts are basically little bags of humus), its already proven most beneficial bacteria are most active within 12 to 24 hrs, but da vinci said something that makes alota since i believe it went "we know more about the movement of celestial bodies than we do about the soil underfoot" which i agree with, we dont know much about microbes and are discovering new ones all the time, the posssibilites are endless, so keep brewing longer u never know u might find something beneficial outa doing it, but try going with all RO water, most citys have chlorimine which doesnt dissapate out no matter how long u let it sit
The only reason i bubble a long time is because i use earthjuice and im running multiple strains that all need watering at diffrent times. so its easier this way. But i think i will definetly benfit by mixing up some 12-24 hr brews too. My girls are so hungry thought that i have been feeding every watering and i havent been able to apply all these diffrent nice compost teas.
 

Kb's seeds

Active Member
i hear ys runnin different strains requires alota work, funny u mention earthjuice i live where the company started and has their main store based outa of, i use earthjuice's rootstock rooting gel an to be honest it works better than any other gel ive tried, clonex, olivia, it beats em all, i use earthjuice's biozeus mycorrhizae innoculant but im gonna be switchin back to plant success's granular mycorrihzae once the biozeus runs out, u ever tried out the rootstock gel? next time u cut clones give it a shot it works hella good and its all organic, just soybean meal, kelp meal and sulfate of potash
 

Da Almighty Jew

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Im brewing a diffrent tea right now. One that i usually dont brew up but i needed some diversity.

3 gal water
5 tbls EWC
5 tbls ancient forest
1/2 tbls floralicious plus
1 tbls hi brix molasses.
1:1 ratio or 1:2 ratio..


I havent tried this floralicious plus in my teas yet so im wondering if it will make a differnce, hope so...
 

Da Almighty Jew

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And a fond one at that. Just like WWII.
lmao, if i were you i would be jealous of me too. Don't you wish you were smoking delicious organically grown og kush that you grew yourself right now? Well guess what your not and i am. Seriouly kid what is with you? Not getting enough attention from mommy? k*ll yourself.
 
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