Why not plant straight into final pot? NO EXPERTS, OK EXPERTS TOO.

[Jogro]

Just a curiosity question. Why don't people jus plant into the final pot? Water management? Space? Just curious. I am betting water management, but I just wanted to hear some opionions.

Some people DO plant into the final pot.

If you CAN do that, its the best way to go. No transplanting necessary, and the plants' original root structure is its final one.

The main reason most growers don't is because 5 gallon pots are heavy to move around and take up tons of space, let alone require more water, nutes, etc.

If you want to maximize your lighting efficiency (eg with separate smaller veg and larger flowering areas), you simply can't get small plants really close together if they're in big pots. If you're growing from seeds, and need to sex the plants, again, putting males into 5 gallon pots before you DESTROY them is a waste of space, soil, water, etc. If you're just dealing with seedlings or small clones, again, having them in gigantic 5 gallon pots creates a lot of unnecessary hassle and waste (light, water, etc).

 

[The,,Roach,,ERA]

i did from seedlings, its my first grow hahaha View attachment 2156366

Some people DO plant into the final pot.

If you CAN do that, its the best way to go. No transplanting necessary, and the plants' original root structure is its final one.

The main reason most growers don't is because 5 gallon pots are heavy to move around and take up tons of space, let alone require more water, nutes, etc.

If you want to maximize your lighting efficiency (eg with separate smaller veg and larger flowering areas), you simply can't get small plants really close together if they're in big pots. If you're growing from seeds, and need to sex the plants, again, putting males into 5 gallon pots before you DESTROY them is a waste of space, soil, water, etc. If you're just dealing with seedlings or small clones, again, having them in gigantic 5 gallon pots creates a lot of unnecessary hassle and waste (light, water, etc).

 

[assasinofyouth420]

I,ve also wondered this as well. Thanks for asking Jiggy.
Haha. nice avatar TriPurp. You know why you dont eat a girl out in the morning right?

 

[RyanTheRhino]

To me its about watering & root formation. If you put a small plant in a large container and water it the plant wont be able to drink all the water. You are left with a wet root-soaked plant that will be over watered and could have root rot. By having the appropriate size pot you know the pot will be dry before the plant gets root rot.

You could be careful and measure how much water you use slowly upping the volume until the plant fills in the final pot, but who wants to do that.

 

[The,,Roach,,ERA]

thats my next grow agenda

To me its about watering & root formation. If you put a small plant in a large container and water it the plant wont be able to drink all the water. You are left with a wet root-soaked plant that will be over watered and could have root rot. By having the appropriate size pot you know the pot will be dry before the plant gets root rot.

 

[JiggyPop]

I like the pot to pot method myself. It has been working well for me. Less water and nutes used as well.

 

[lokie]

I'm going to try the jiffy plug - 3 gal - 5 gal route and see how that works out for me.

Made some DIY smart pots. Now I need to TP my clones from 1 gal now to 3 gal for a few weeks.

 

[ImAgIaNtInDaGrOwWoRlD]

you know why you dont eat a girl out in the morning right?

why ??????

 

[JiggyPop]

Does vagina have morning breath?

 

[Irie Genetics]

So at minimum you get 36 ounces from 1 lamp? Doubt it dude.....

Have you ever grown Golden Goat? Everyone in Colorado is running Golden Goat because it harvests like a champ. I also run a bunch of Subcool stuff and I top early in veg.

 

[sfttailpaul]

So at minimum you get 36 ounces from 1 lamp? Doubt it dude.....

Gotta' agree! Totally BS UNLESS that single lamp is like 10,000 watts! LOL

 

[sfttailpaul]

Just a curiosity question. Why don't people jus plant into the final pot? Water management? Space? Just curious. I am betting water management, but I just wanted to hear some opionions.

I grow Hydroponically, every phase. I use one pot, start to finish...
I take cuttings from my Veg. plants that are in the only pot they ever reside in. The cuttings become viable clones in my home made power clone machine, so there is no medium until they get transferred into their Veg. pots. From there I have a 18 site area (my Veg. stage) that has an Ebb & Flow set up; I'll veg. for 4-5 weeks there, then take the top pot out and transfer it into the Bloom room, which has the exact same set-up... By using all the same pots (top growth and bottom reservoirs), I am able to not have to transplant, ever. It is more cost effective. I also have NO mother plants to have to deal with. I am constantly taking cuttings from the Veg'ing plants and the timing works out great. I harvest 3-4 plants every 4-6 weeks depending on what strain is flowering and when the Veg. ladies are ready to flower. I get 2-3 ounces (sometimes 4 oz's. but rare) per plant under 600W HPS on 4 ft. light tracks (have a 6 ft. footprint). Plants wind up being +3 ft. (and sometimes 4 ft. tall). For me, 6 to 12 ounces, consistently, every month or so, of some super quality bud, is just fine for all my efforts... Call it a perpetual system or whatever, but it works quite well. Think about these weeds growing in nature. Infinite pot is what nature gives them to propagate in...

 

[RyanTheRhino]

why ??????

 

[assasinofyouth420]

why ??????

You ever open a grilled cheese sandwich?

 

[Irie Genetics]

Gotta' agree! Totally BS UNLESS that single lamp is like 10,000 watts! LOL

24 X 7gallon pots under 4 lights, topped, Lollipopped and LST'd. It's work but I reach my goals. I will post pics in a couple weeks. I am only in week 3 now and it's already looking better than last time.
Check out Subcools videos of JTR and VORTEX. My plants are little larger than his and he fits 9 per light. I only run 6 per light. If I wanted to lie to impress someone I would go the bar and lie to chicks. I don't need to lie to the internet.

 

[scroglodyte]

moisture management, root ball development, and increased growth

 

[Hydrowannabe]

Here is my two cents...if you don’t have to be on a tight schedule like caregivers or more commercial grows, then I think transplanting can’t hurt (unless you have clumsy hands, but I’ve never had a dried rootball fall apart on me and I’m all thumbs). I only have ever grown for myself and I’ve tried both ways and I just like the stability that comes with starting at an appropriate pot for the appropriate size plant,...and if you want that plant to get bigger and have more time,..pot it up a few sizes. Just don’t get greedy ha

 

[deno]

If your soil is worth a damn, there is no need to use nutrients in the first month. If your one month old plant's roots do not reach the bottom of a 7gal container, you need to up your game. The watering 'problem' that people run into with large containers is due to inexperience. The only reasons I can think of to use smaller containers in the process is to save space & soil (which becomes a big factor in medium and large grows). Only a minority of plants make it into the pipe.

 

[Hydrowannabe]

^^^our reasons to transplant could not be more opposite in logic lmao. Your logic does make complete sense though. It’s just so funny how everyone on these forums can grow great looking weed but grow so drastically different. Cool stuff ha

 

[Hydrowannabe]

So in the end, maybe pic a book and stick to that logic