Obtaining Clones? ... Legally?

mdanforth

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Tet, keeping your ez clone clean is a big step, If you didn't clean everything with bleach water when you first setup your cloner that could have been the problem....water ph really isn't all that important in a cloner, as there are no roots...anything between 6 and 7 will be ok....water temp is the biggest problem I see, keep it in the mid 70's....I have 6 inch(or longer) roots at 14 days.....
 

tet1953

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I admit it, I didn't :)

The one-sheet instructions said to, I ignored it although I did rinse thoroughly. I attributed the huge failure rate to some other experimentation I was doing lol. I have always used a light concentration of Clonex solution in my clone water with good success. I noticed though that a lot of them were showing what appeared to be mg deficiency once they got sufficient roots. Cannabis is a glutton for the stuff, I've noticed and read. Anyway, I started putting a smidgeon of eposom in the buckets and not only did it seem to prevent the condition, it cleared up a couple that were in there at the time.
So...I put the Clonex and epsom in the EZ-Clone from the get go. I thought maybe the additional factor of aeration combined with the epsom might be throwing off the ph. They do mention it in the literature (importance of ph). Admittedly, I did not actually check it though. I'll be trying again soon, after a thorough bleach wash and skip the epsom.
 

mdanforth

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I use clonex at 200 ppm....my water is about 6.8 ph so i dont screw with it...i gotta cut clones next week maybe I'll take some pics...
 

ink the world

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This thread made me realize again how much the Internet has changed everything.

I remember my early cloning problems 20 years ago. My roommate and I had an Ed Rosenthal book and a bunch if High Times as our only guide. Man we lost tons of clones in the beginning...... Looking back I'm glad I had those troubles, mistakes and lessons that all lead eventually to knowledge.

There are many ways to clone, you have to try different things and find what works best for you and what you're comfortable with. I've cloned in soil, perlite, coco, aeroponics, DWC, water, soaked paper towel, and more I'm sure.... It's all part if learning and growing as a gardener, you're gonna make mistakes, learn from those mistakes and you'll do well
 
I appreciate all the help you are all giving me.

Now, here is a picture of a potential cutting.


I've tried 2 round in the Turbo Kloner unsuccessful, but I have a bunch of rockwool cubes, I've never tried with them before.
Where would you suggest I cut it from, and would I want to remove leaves? I've done a lot of research. watched a bunch of videos, but still I cannot seem to get good results. I've only had cutting out of about 25 root, but it never ended up growing, it made no process when put into soil. I truley don't know what I'm doing wrong ... I've tried to follow these steps as closely as possible ... but to no avail.

 

MYWhat?

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Are you trying to clone that hole section of plant ?

If you are that may be your problem. From what I can see of it, there are 2 good cuts there.

Here is an example; The red line is where I'd cut at a 45 deg angle with a clean sharp razor. (if blade is new wipe it down with rubbing alcohol to remove oil residue.) The purple lines, I'd take the leaf steams off flush. This gives a good point for roots to start.

clone diagram 2.JPG

Be sure to keep the cuttings in water till you put your rooting gel on. (or whatever you use) If an air bubble gets drawn up into the stem it will form an embolism and it will not take root.
 

jujubee

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...but here is how I do it free of charge...cut, dip, stick, in the dome tray and leave it ALONE!...no rocket surgery...about 85 to 90% success
This is pretty much what I do, but I use a root heating pad and leave 1/2 inch of very weak nut solution in the tray. Also works with just water. It stays humid enough so I don't have to mist. I can get 95% success, but tend to toss clones that take too long.

You can use this method with small rockwool cubes.
http://www.grodan101.com/growing-tips/seed-easy-way/seed-lazy-way

How much ligh are you using?
You don't need very much light.



I may have some extra Sour D clones to donate in a week or two.

Know Your Grow has test this plant
https://knowyourgrow.co/strain/491

 

maineyankee

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Being somewhat of a newbie, I would say that those numbers are very good on the Sour Diesel. JuJu. Congrats ! I also did not know about having your grow tested (even though it is located in RI), and I am wondering if there is a lab that will test grows here in Maine. In reading an article lately, I have seen in California something similar, where the company places a "Seal of Approval" for the Patients to affirm that they are purchasing exactly what the seller claims. I really like that idea, both for the patient as well as for the dispensary. Please note that I did not include CareGivers, for I feel that the "Good Ones" already come highly recommended from their patients. (JMOO)

I am also looking for clones, and if anyone would like to donate, please PM me. Thank You in advance :-) Go Yankees !!
 

bird mcbride

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There is one method that I haven't tried but has potential. After cutting and dipping wrap the rooting area with paper towel and wet. Place the clone(s) in a tinfoil box and leave in a cool place such as under your kitchen sink. According to what I was told the clone(s) should root in about a week. I use spent res water, stimroot #2 powder(for semi-hardwood), rockwool cubes. etc in a mini greenhouse constructed from a clear plastic garbage bag. I place a single layer of gravel for drainage and an air/drainhole about 2"s in size.
 

CCMaine

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Ccm has a monthly meeting where clones are sold....its unlawful but it happens...
Correction on this... caregivers and patients can legally gift clones to one another and often do at CCM meetings, but selling of clones at meetings is not legal, encouraged or condoned.
 

jujubee

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I also did not know about having your grow tested (even though it is located in RI), and I am wondering if there is a lab that will test grows here in Maine. In reading an article lately, I have seen in California something similar, where the company places a "Seal of Approval" for the Patients to affirm that they are purchasing exactly what the seller claims. I really like that idea, both for the patient as well as for the dispensary. Please note that I did not include CareGivers, for I feel that the "Good Ones" already come highly recommended from their patients. (JMOO)
I had it tested during CannaMainia. Know Your Grow labs said they would be opening a location in Hallowell Maine by July. They also said they are setting up local grow stores in Maine to take samples, and would email a list when they get it together. A test cost $30, I think you get 5 tests for $125.

I am pretty exited about it.

I like the idea of testing for breeding. I can bring a little more science into my pollen chucking.
 

mdanforth

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Correction on this... caregivers and patients can legally gift clones to one another and often do at CCM meetings, but selling of clones at meetings is not legal, encouraged or condoned.
well the way one caregiver that was there told me they were sold, I have no reason to doubt him....however I wasn't there.....
 

MYWhat?

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I recently had a bunch of cuts that wouldn't fit in my cloner. I ended up leaving them in the baggies of water they where in, set in an empty flower pot in front of my window. No rooting gel, air bubblers, nothing. A week later I remembered and had a look. 100 percent success on all 8 of them.
 

pellet

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what are they limiting to clones to in maine now? i was wondering how many can be rooted and unrooted? to stay legal ofcourse. im not big into clones but ive had gd luck with a home made dwc,no dome, no dip. i just cut them toss in the dwc and in 2wks they have enough to plant. what i did was took a male that i was going to toss and just cut it into clones and practiced the process.
As many know that talk to me or seen my post (even though my 1st grow was lost with the hack) i grow SLH and it seems to clone easy. i have alot of unknows some will take some will just wilt away. Another easy 1 to clone was super silver haze
 

pellet

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from what i know is p2p can donate clones to each other and if you overgrow you can also donate that.
other option i was told and had to lmao was anything over legal limits can be brought to local police dept for disposel
 

jujubee

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what are they limiting to clones to in maine now? i was wondering how many can be rooted and unrooted? to stay legal ofcourse.
No limit on the number of plants until they are larger than 12". Then it is 6 per patient.
 
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