Are there ANY Christians on RIU?
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Pad, Your belief that your mother loves you is the direction I was trying to nudge you in.
It was a Socratic question meant to illustrate that perhaps we all have perceptions and beliefs that don't require scientific proof for them to be true in our own lives.
I too know that my mother loved me, but proving it to be fact would be somewhat tricky.
At any rate, peace my friend.
420IAMthatIAM
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all religions are dysfunctional,and have been for thousand of years. take christainty for example there is no where in old testament thats speaks of some one name jesus coming to save the world...also something else thats kinda of strange is the lie that satan said to eve, which was ..Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Joh 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? this person called jesus said this one
mindphuk
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all religions are dysfunctional,and have been for thousand of years. take christainty for example there is no where in old testament thats speaks of some one name jesus coming to save the world...also something else thats kinda of strange is the lie that satan said to eve, which was ..Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Joh 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? this person called jesus said this one
Only Xians claim the serpent was hasatan. AFAIK, nothing in Jewish literature agrees with that. However, the Jewish view of hasatan is very different than that of popular culture, mostly inspired by the Xian view.
Doer
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But, there is something in the brain that can experience what seems to me to be unvarnished Joy. Unvarnished in that it exists outside causality somehow. It's not "I feel joy, because.." of some event in the "objective." But rather it seems to nautrally be present when I can let the mind cloud drift off and talk on. But, it's no longer is talking to me and I'm not listening. So, just saying, without woo, I wish that word, Joy, was not taken by religion.
I have some opinions about the practices that start religions, Those that allow the experience of feelings that are normally hidden from Mr. Mind, but a religion is all talk and no real practice. These are just my opinions.
dank smoker420
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reliegion is belief of something with no scientific evidence. love is a feeling you have for someone.
i have always wondered why christians do not eccept the evidence of evolution. and if god creates everything why would he create bad things. like terrorists and people who have the will power to create killing machines or people who lie to the whole united states to take them to war.
i have always wondered why christians do not eccept the evidence of evolution. and if god creates everything why would he create bad things. like terrorists and people who have the will power to create killing machines or people who lie to the whole united states to take them to war.
st0wandgrow
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HEY! If you're referring to this monkey, I'm a card carrying atheist!
I feel insulted, Tyler!
polyarcturus
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what if our ancestors where ape people and needed a way to explain everything without their brain bursting from within? god damn if i lived in wilderness with a group of crazy raw meat eating people i would generate crazy ways to explain things too. but now we have tools books measurement ect. i can see god show god prove god. god is energy energy is in everything. energy can not be lost or gained. it exist everywhere in the known universe in some form. god is energy in is most basic form, it is not sentient and there is no afterlife, beside im pretty happy knowing my energy will just go back into the earth when i die.
st0wandgrow
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LMAO! Classic!
Doer
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Maybe God is not so candy coated. Maybe we assume God cares. Maybe this is all a illusionary construct and only men are good and evil. Religion does not define God.
Zaehet Strife
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I always thought it was a cool idea that the war between god and the devil has been over for tens of thousands of years... but the thing is, that the devil actually won, and we are merely playing part in this illusory existence merely for his pleasure at watching us suffer and kill eachother.
If you think about it, it makes more sense that the devil won instead of god, i mean take a good look around you. If god won, i think things would probably be very different.
If you think about it, it makes more sense that the devil won instead of god, i mean take a good look around you. If god won, i think things would probably be very different.
Garcia Vega
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God believer, Christ saved, and Marijuana smoker...
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. (Genesis 1:29, KJV)
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. (Genesis 1:29, KJV)
Doer
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God has never said anything to anybody. I, sometimes, wish IT would. Most times, not.
Wednesday
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I believe in God, Jesus, the Bible, etc. I'm afraid I don't identify as a "Christian" only because I know my behavior doesn't always represent the Christian community very well so I don't think I necessarily deserve the title. But i'm a believer if that makes sense. I try to behave best I can.
tyler.durden
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Wrong Monkey, I think my monkey's name was mudminer. All you monkeys look alike to meHEY! If you're referring to this monkey, I'm a card carrying atheist!
I feel insulted, Tyler!
eye exaggerate
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...Christian communities do not represent Christian community. Think like the sun - Feel like the earth <---there's community
eye exaggerate
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...what is magic?
Doer
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Paraphrasing Aurthur C. Clarke, it's sufficiently advanced technology. We really have to give Self more credit. We are sitting here in the most advanced technology, the human body. It is tech beyond understanding or belief. New discoveries are made constantly, the epi-genome, for example., It is still as mysterious as it ever was. And we sit, not as meat, but consciousness riding meat. If we strip out all belief, we have sufficiently advanced technology called consciousness. And if we strip out all belief many of us still have a consciousness of more to it than the 5 senses tell us.
So, religions attempt to describe but they don't have a patent. My experiences can be described, carefully, as specifically not woo. TogTokes seems to possess the usual confusion of rejecting the wrong thing. Reject religion and dogma to the extent that it explains anything? I do.
Here is the ancient mystery. And it's a good contemplation technique. Why do we breath that next breath? What is that urge to live? If we sit calmly and pay attention, there is this little something. There is, quiet, silent revelation as to what my Life and Self is. Beyond description. Pure experience. Worth noting, it seems like magic.