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budwich

budwich

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not even sure that matters if its running or not man, but security is a good point. I guess the screening process should be pretty in depth. Hope it goes well for you
 
Biological Graffity

Biological Graffity

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yup, just another logistical nightmare,but, ever since we started this business I haven't relied on stealth as crime prevention... People talk...
 
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MainePainAlternative

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Maine Brookies said:
Not quite right. Two caregivers who have specific family relationships can share the same room.

"D. Two primary caregivers who are members of the same family or household mayshare the same enclosed, locked facility."

"5-A. Member of the family. "Member of the family" means a person who is aspouse, domestic partner, child, sibling, aunt, uncle, niece, nephew, parent, stepparent,grandparent or grandchild of another person. "Member of the family" includes a personliving with a person as a spouse and a natural parent of a child of a person."

It seems odd that you can share a room with your uncle but not your cousin. And the last sentence makes no sense at all.
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"or" implies a separate option not implicitly tied to the phrase before the "or".



Two primary caregivers are the subject.. the predicate is either:

1. "[who are members of the same] family"

OR

2. "[who are members of the same] household"





THEREFORE,

two primary caregivers who fulfill either 1 OR 2 "mayshare the same enclosed, locked facility"





mb is this how you interpret the law?

were you just commenting on the dumb word choice?
 
jujubee

jujubee

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organicness said:
Now someone can have a large commercial property with different rooms that have different keys and each caregiver/patient has they're own key and that's all well and fine. But for them to all share the same one space is not legal under our statute.
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I have a property with 12 room, each with a deadbolt on the door. They all have different keys. All the rooms also have a sink. 2000sf in the basement. I was going to put in an application for a dispensary a couple years ago, but decided against it.

I have been considering renting out rooms to caregivers, but I would need to run some new circuits first. And I would be pretty picky about who I would rent to. Maybe sometime down the road.

But it also looks like caregivers can hire employees now, so the people I rent to could hire me to take care of their gardens for them.....and make deliveries or whatever :-P
 
Biological Graffity

Biological Graffity

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I have tried the whole renting the room 2 another CG bit...Nothing good came out of it, definitely not doing a merged grows thang ever again...It wil take just one person to contaminate 1 room for you to have to decontaminate 12...Lots of work...and with a dozen people in and out of your grow...dispensary might be a way better way 2 grow on that scale....not to mention the possibility of theft, 12 people is a lot of heads...
 
jujubee

jujubee

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MainePainAlternative said:
what makes hiring employees okay now? new legislation?
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http://www.maine.gov/dhhs/dlrs/mmm/application-material/Program-Bulletin.pdf

3. ONE EMPLOYEE TO HELP CULTIVATE
• However, a caregiver may employ only one individual to assist in the cultivation, regardless of the number of patients that have designated the caregiver to cultivate marijuana.
• This employee must be identified to the Department and a criminal background check performed. A registry ID card will be issued if there is no disqualifying drug offense and other requirements are met. This will be memorialized in upcoming rulemaking.


4. SHORT-TERM ASSISTANCE CULTIVATING DURING A CAREGIVER’S ABSENCE
• In addition, a registered caregiver may utilize the services of another registered caregiver to tend cultivation activities for up to two weeks as long as there is no remuneration. This will be memorialized in upcoming rulemaking.
• There must be written evidence on forms provided by the department that the individual is acting on the caregiver’s behalf along with the dates associated with that short-term assistance. The authorization forms can be found at: http://www.maine.gov/dhhs/dlrs/mmm/index.shtml.
 
jujubee

jujubee

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Biological Graffity said:
I have tried the whole renting the room 2 another CG bit...Nothing good came out of it, definitely not doing a merged grows thang ever again...It wil take just one person to contaminate 1 room for you to have to decontaminate 12...Lots of work...and with a dozen people in and out of your grow...dispensary might be a way better way 2 grow on that scale....not to mention the possibility of theft, 12 people is a lot of heads...
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Yeah. I was thinking a breeding house that had medical mj as a by-product. Caregivers could hire me to grow the stuff for them...and they wouldn't even be allowed in. I don't see how I could do it any other way.
 
budwich

budwich

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jujubee said:
http://www.maine.gov/dhhs/dlrs/mmm/application-material/Program-Bulletin.pdf

3. ONE EMPLOYEE TO HELP CULTIVATE
• However, a caregiver may employ only one individual to assist in the cultivation, regardless of the number of patients that have designated the caregiver to cultivate marijuana.
• This employee must be identified to the Department and a criminal background check performed. A registry ID card will be issued if there is no disqualifying drug offense and other requirements are met. This will be memorialized in upcoming rulemaking.


4. SHORT-TERM ASSISTANCE CULTIVATING DURING A CAREGIVER’S ABSENCE
• In addition, a registered caregiver may utilize the services of another registered caregiver to tend cultivation activities for up to two weeks as long as there is no remuneration. This will be memorialized in upcoming rulemaking.
• There must be written evidence on forms provided by the department that the individual is acting on the caregiver’s behalf along with the dates associated with that short-term assistance. The authorization forms can be found at: http://www.maine.gov/dhhs/dlrs/mmm/index.shtml.
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actually attempted to have an employee, and they got a letter back with voided check saying governor is not allowing this at this time. Called Thiele and he said that was still in the works, and they are not accepting applications for employees. That was a few months ago, not sure if its changed
 
Biological Graffity

Biological Graffity

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MainePainAlternative said:
sounds like you told too many people what you do and where
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There comes a point in a Ops life when it simply becomes too big to be hidden...Even if one unnecessary person knows your location and what you are doing , you automatically have to assume that EVERYONE knows, and now that it has been a legal business for almost a year and a half...well lets just say for me stealth ended when I sent out my first application...simply because there is no guarantee (100% that is) that the data entry clerk at DHHS is not going to get tweaked on meth and start roaming the countryside in search of a quick buck....as unlikely as that sounds ...
I always hope for the best, but when it comes to strategy,possibility of violence and protecting my family's income I plan for the many possible bad things....BTW if I actually do decide to go ahead and try to sell the property, all the security equipment will be included...
 
MYWhat?

MYWhat?

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You sound like a good man, Biological Graffity.

Where I live there are some that are really trying to push the envelope when it comes to renting out space. Even going so far as renting out space connected to other business. Fully furnished rooms with everything included.
I just don't think they should be drawing this kind of attention! But then it's not for me to say, what one does with their personal property either.

I myself am the owner of multiple property's (rentals). I also believe those renters should have safe axcess to their own meds if they so choose. For this reason I have reserved a space for my tenants to grow if they are legal patients. I just don't advertise it !
 
Maine Brookies

Maine Brookies

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MainePainAlternative said:
mb is this how you interpret the law?

were you just commenting on the dumb word choice?
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I interpret the law the same way you do - certain relatives can not live together and still share space but any two people who live together can share the same space.
"Member of the family" includes a person living with a person as a spouse and a natural parent of a child of a person"The above still makes no sense at all.
 
Maine Brookies

Maine Brookies

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The employee thing requires rulemaking to actually be put in place. Rulemaking for the medical program is said to be a low priority at this time. Since they same rulemaking session will also limit the number of plants in veg and probably put a bunch of restrictions on growing outside, i'm in no hurry for them to get around to it.
 
tet1953

tet1953

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Aren't there already restrictions on growing outside? I know not specifically, but the rules around securing the grow would pretty much preclude it I would think.
 
jujubee

jujubee

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Another interesting thing is that more than two patients can share a grow room if they live together.

Two or more qualifying patients who are members of the same household and cultivating their own marijuana may share one enclosed, locked facility for cultivation;
 
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