Im gonna use a pound of mid grade? Help for a beginner!?

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FloWithTheGrow

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So Im gonna be harvesting a couple pounds of mid-high grade weed here in about a month.
What method should I use to make (hash,oil, w.e) some potent shit lol
I am a beginner with concentrates and extracts but I will follow all rules of the method given to insure succes.
Ive been reading all the stuff you guys been posting in here lately and I NEED to try it.
My buddy told me I can make "mouth drops", is that an oil extract or what?
But ya anyway whats the best yet easy method to get a potent outcome.
Bubble hash, oil or what ?
 
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kermit2692

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im speaking from research on one side and exp. on another ...bubble hash looks the best and subcool has posted a detailed walkthrough what he comes out with looks way better than any oil ive smoked. however ive never done this or smoked it. ive made bho before and the problem is the yield is very small imo. id rather get pretty stoned ten times from my hard earned grow than really high once. the bubble can be made and you can also take the weed and use it to make butter as well. that is the most efficient way. i will say i have smoked some bho my buddy brought back from cali and that was killer but all things considered most potent and easiest thing to do besides smoke pot imo is to make butter so id get a cheap bubble bag set the 8 bag set though but a knockoff ebay has them, make some bubble hash and then throw the wet pot right into the crock pot on low or med with some butter.
 
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irieie

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Make dry ice hash then run butane through it mixed with a little bud. This will give you the highest yields and highest quality in my experience. You could make ice hash but it is harder to get a high quality products and more labor intensive and the higher the quality, the lower the yield. If you dry ice and then run the butane then you can use the left overs from making the dry ice hash to make butter, but do not use the material you ran butane through for butter.
 
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irieie

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Gastanker said:
I would say dry ice hash and clean it up with 99% iso instead of the butane.
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It wont taste as good but will probably give a better yield probably also be a bit cheaper and easier but the end product will not be as desireable to others if you know what i mean. Wax and bho goes for 30-60 a gram. The only ISO I know of available is usually rick Simpson oil.
 
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Corbat420

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Gastanker said:
I would say dry ice hash and clean it up with 99% iso instead of the butane.
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^ This gets my vote.

For the record, Wax, BHO and IHO go for $30-$65/G here as well... if Iso Honey oil is made PROPERLY it can be just as good (If not BETTER) Than BHO..... here is one of the best tek's around for making great oil... buy you have to get the hang of making it, so make it in small batches (An OZ at a time) https://www.rollitup.org/concentrates-extracts/489366-iso-extractions-_oakley_.html

Dry ice hash > Bubble hash ANY day. the yield is CRAZY. from a LB of mid's you should get 60~ Grams of good has + The IHO, thats alot of hash and oil.....

Wax and bho goes for 30-60 a gram. The only ISO I know of available is usually rick Simpson oil.
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I sell my IHO as BHO and people dont know the difference.... some wonder why it tastes so good, but hey thats not bad.... the only thing people think of when they hear ISO is chlorophyll, but thats because people dont know how to make it.....
 
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irieie

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Kush70 said:
whew 30-60 ? thats insane
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You have obviously never tried high quality wax or oil. You get what you pay for. There usually a 10-15% yield when making bho. That means to make 1 gram of oil you need 7-10 grams of material. What's the price on high quality trim/popcorn buds these days 100 an ounce? Or more applicable to the OP, how much could you sell that half a pound for? You do the math.
 
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kermit2692

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haha i can tell who lives where(assuming your both card holders)...the high price is in cali and the guy who thinks thats nuts is in colorado....seriously though, you can make dry ice hash, just kief really..i dont think it makes much sense to refine it any further, and then take the weed run it through bubble bags then take the wet pot and cook with it. im sure the bubble will be less pure since its already been sieved but the cooking will still be awesome imo thats the ultimate way to squeeze out the last drop . this is probably what i would do if i had the equipment and wanted to refine an entire grow...
 
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Corbat420

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haha i can tell who lives where(assuming your both card holders)
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im not a card holder, and i live in a remote northern town... small population with VERY little oil. we have tonnes of "rez weed" (weed from indian reservations) but not to much GOOD weed....

my IHO and top grade sells for ALOT because when it hits the market people scramble to get a piece before its gone....

That means to make 1 gram of oil you need 7-10 grams of material. What's the price on high quality trim/popcorn buds these days 100 an ounce? Or more applicable to the OP, how much could you sell that half a pound for? You do the math.
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just to educate you a little... some places you can get shake for CHEAP. $250/LB in Victoria BC, and its some top grade shake... $500 for 2LBS of shake, $150 for 5 gallons of ISO... usually makes 150~ Grams of oil... that means it costs me $5 a gram to make it.... thats a profit of $55/gram

seriously though, you can make dry ice hash, just kief really..i dont think it makes much sense to refine it any further, and then take the weed and do and ISO extraction, oakley style and profit like MAD.
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FloWithTheGrow

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whats wax, BHO and IHO? Im sure its a lame ass question lol.. Im assuming wax is from oil.
And maybe ill try a couple different methods, bubble hash, dry ice, etc.
 
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Corbat420

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whats wax, BHO and IHO? Im sure its a lame ass question lol.. Im assuming wax is from oil.
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to make wax is a LONG process, but it is the purest form of Butane extraction.

First step is to make Butane oil.
Second step the butane oil is "whipped" (like wipping creme, only slowly with a pin). this changes the consistency into a thicker, almost waxy substance.
Third step is to Purge the oil. the oil is Vacuum purged using negative pressure (-25 atmospheres).

the Final product is a hard, wax like substance that can be 90+% Cannabinols

maybe ill try a couple different methods, bubble hash, dry ice, etc.
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Personaly i would make a LOT of hash, and a bit of oil... but thats what i like to smoke... my request to you: Do what you like to smoke :D
 
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snew

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I make dry ice hash and don't refine that any further, either and then make butter or QWISO with whats left. The weed breaks up a lot fast so there is always left over kief in there.
 
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irieie

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Corbat420 said:
to make wax is a LONG process, but it is the purest form of Butane extraction.

First step is to make Butane oil.
Second step the butane oil is "whipped" (like wipping creme, only slowly with a pin). this changes the consistency into a thicker, almost waxy substance.
Third step is to Purge the oil. the oil is Vacuum purged using negative pressure (-25 atmospheres).

the Final product is a hard, wax like substance that can be 90+% Cannabinols



Personaly i would make a LOT of hash, and a bit of oil... but thats what i like to smoke... my request to you: Do what you like to smoke :D
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First of all wax goes for 60 a gram, not ISO hash. And you have obviously never made it because you purge before you whip it. All you know is what you read on here. Second there is no market for ISO hash except as rick Simpson oil or as we call it around these parts Phoenix tears. Another point is you are in Canada I am in a real country just south of you LOL. The markets are completely different and good trim, which is much different than shitty bottom of the bag "shake". I am talking about all the sugar leaves trimmed off in manicure and the larfy popcorn buds. And that shit goes for 100 an ounce around here. Shit you can get Mexican shwagg for 250 a lb out here. People try and make this into wax but it does not work out so well and no one wants it. To make the wax that goes for high dollar you have to use quality material. And lastly ISO tastes like shit and I have tried the best there could be no one wants it. I have not met a smoker who did not drool over some quality wax. I can never say the same for ISO hash or rick Simpson oil. Bosch that shit is nasty. If you want the highest quality make wax or ice hash the way Matt rize does. But it is easier to make good wax than trying to aspire to the heights of the best ice water hash maker in the US and probably the world.
 
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kermit2692

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who the hell is bosch? dude you cant go tear someone down and make a ton of gramatical errors at the same time makes YOU look like the one who doesnt know what they are talking about....however i have to agree the only iso i ever smoked was no good properly done honey oil takes the cake as far as oils go hands down. also have to agree on that last comment ive seen so many varying qualities of bubble hash and heard its a little tricky to get a method down to come out with that killer looking quality.
 
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irieie

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kermit2692 said:
who the hell is bosch? dude you cant go tear someone down and make a ton of gramatical errors at the same time makes YOU look like the one who doesnt know what they are talking about....however i have to agree the only iso i ever smoked was no good properly done honey oil takes the cake as far as oils go hands down. also have to agree on that last comment ive seen so many varying qualities of bubble hash and heard its a little tricky to get a method down to come out with that killer looking quality.
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Sorry for my grammar I am typing on my phone and its autocorrect changes some words and It is a pain to go back and edit. Grammar aside I stand behind what I say.
 
Corbat420

Corbat420

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Another point is you are in Canada I am in a real country just south of you LOL. The markets are completely different and good trim, which is much different than shitty bottom of the bag "shake". I am talking about all the sugar leaves trimmed off in manicure and the larfy popcorn buds.
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LOL just to show you how IGNORANT of a statment that actualy is....

2 words... BC Bud... dumb mother fucker. where do you think you learned to grow good weed from? Where in the world do you think consistently has THE BEST weed? BC, ME, MY people. FUCK your people and your BROKE ASS, WANA-BEE CULTURE... African american 1/2 white fuckers acting like there fucking africans, 1/2 assed Spanish fuck's acting like they own the countrey and on top of ALL THAT you Have the LOWEST rates of education in the civilized world, Highest Incarceration rates and the Highest rate of Poverty in the G20..... Talking about a real country? Educate yourself mother fucker.

And lastly ISO tastes like shit and I have tried the best there could be no one wants it. I have not met a smoker who did not drool over some quality wax. I can never say the same for ISO hash or rick Simpson oil.
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Where do you come from some Back woods trash society? Simple fact: NO Butane extraction is clean. there is No such thing as PURE extract when using Butane.... ISO Leaves WATER left over.... Personally i dont know anyone who actualy LIKES Butane extractions and there for Wax... most people don't make it because it is such a waste.
 
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Gastanker

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I'm no expert but I personally prefer smoking hash and ISO oil over BHO. I was a HUGE BHO fan until I started smoking ISO oil and I have to say that I personally think it tastes better and smokes cleaner - by smokes cleaner I mean I don't feel as ill afterwards. I'm not claiming that BHO is bad for you but I personally reach a point where BHO makes me feel crummy inside to the point of wanting to take a break. ISO oil has never done this to me.

Regarding looks - who cares?

Here's some pretty BHO -



Ahh, so colorful - (yes, this is obvlously not fully purged yet in this pic)



I would rather smoke this dark looking shit :)



The above was made from dry ice hash and it's still dark dark dark. I don't see the problem... How much chlorophyll can it really have when compared to say buds? This is the parent material, DIRTY dry ice hash (300+ micron). Still pretty clean parent material imo.





Of course personal preference is personal preference. Not much to argue there.

Yummm

 
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