Isn't Homosexuality Abnormal?

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Heisenberg

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UncleBuck said:
you don't need to apologize to me, i had fun. but i will point out that your apology, warranted or not, makes you a bigger man and gains you lots of respect in everyone's eyes.

not everyone is mature enough to apologize for stuff, even though like i said, i don't feel you owe anyone an apology. we're just messing around on the interwebz.
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I can't help but laugh at the fact that the only time someone has told Wiley he is the bigger man is when another man put words into his mouth.

And guys, I understand you are having fun with your insults, but not everyone does. TnT is used to that. In here we may have actual confused people who are struggling with these issues and searching for answers. These people may not see this forum as just another place to play on the 'interwebz'. This is indeed the place designated for serious discussion of sexuality. If either of you have ever felt lost, misunderstood and without guidance you should understand why we like to keep things more civil in here.
 
scroglodyte

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You're right, I apologize for my conduct in the thread, and in previous ones thus far regarding the issues of homosexuality or Islam or, well... spirituality in general.. To be perfectly honest, I really don't understand much about either of them and, they frighten me, which is why I tend to make ignorant claims that can't be backed up...



at least homos don't wanna take over the world in a blood-bath of forced conversion. whoops.......
 
Darwin Riddle

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this thread should be deleted too...you just like to get a rise out of people...trollette...you do like to talk about pedophiles alot tho.......
 
DreamTime

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Trying to have a serious discussion in these threads is like finding a great group of people in the quad to debate with only to end up getting pelted with water balloons.
 
The Potologist

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If homosexuality is abnormal then it must be a choice?? To which I say, trying being gay yourself...just try, after all its just a choice right??? :) Not a choice at all, nor an abnormality.


Where there is mass ignorance, there is mass confusion. Where there is mass confusion, there are idiosyncrasies and finally where there are idiosyncrasies there is a negative counter-intuitive progression of communication. RIU, being a grande example. Apart from the growing section ( and no their not exempt, they have their fair share of it) a great majority of threads started on RIU change subjects 10-15 times, and never really hit any positive dialect, its mostly rubbish filled opinions that only take away from any positive communication.

No body ever said stoners are known for staying focused :/ Hey look a squirrel :)
 
Padawanbater2

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The proponents of this argument against homosexuality haven't answered why if something is 'abnormal' it automatically becomes 'bad'.
 
Darwin Riddle

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Isn't asking the same question, over and over again, abnormal? I'm starting to wonder if you, yourself, are homosexual and that is why you need so much feedback, from us, on this topic!!! :finger:
 
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Darwin Riddle said:
Isn't asking the same question, over and over again, abnormal? I'm starting to wonder if you, yourself, are homosexual and that is why you need so much feedback, from us, on this topic!!! :finger:
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No, I'm not a homo. My views on homos are:

1. They have the same rights (or should) as heteros.
2. They should be treated with respect.
3. They should be allowed to marry.
4. Their natural desires (yes, I realize they are born gay, and did not choose to be gay) are COUNTER to the design (or current evolutionary state, whichever term you prefer) of nature.
5. While lesbians are really and truly OK with me, rump-ranging men make me sick (much like pedophiles). But that's just me. I realize that many reasonable people feel otherwise.
 
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Padawanbater2 said:
The proponents of this argument against homosexuality haven't answered why if something is 'abnormal' it automatically becomes 'bad'.
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I never said that homosexuality is BAD. I just said that it is contrary to the current state of nature. Just like pedophelia. Homos and peds are born with their sexual desires. They didn't choose them, I know.

I DO NOT condone pedophilia, but homos are OK with me. They are both simply a mistake of nature. Like a child born with autism.
 
Heisenberg

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WileyCoyote said:
No, I'm not a homo. My views on homos are:

1. They have the same rights (or should) as heteros.
2. They should be treated with respect.
3. They should be allowed to marry.
4. Their natural desires (yes, I realize they are born gay, and did not choose to be gay) are COUNTER to the design (or current evolutionary state, whichever term you prefer) of nature.
5. While lesbians are really and truly OK with me, rump-ranging men make me sick (much like pedophiles). But that's just me. I realize that many reasonable people feel otherwise.
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These are all reasonable statements. Where you got into trouble with most people is when you said these lines

Or more clearly, it indicates that Mother Nature senses something wrong with homosexuals to the extent that She doesn't want them to procreate.
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Mother nature endowed many homosexuals with healthy reproductive systems. Furthermore, following your premise, we would have to assume mother nature finds something wrong with old people or anyone who is naturally sterile. Your logic is so loose that we could use it to also assume that, since mother nature gives human cancer, she must not want humans around. Underneath all of this is the fact that empirical evidence casts serious doubt on homosexuality being simply a matter of genetics, therefore natural selection must not be the only mechanic involved and may in fact be incidental.

I submit that homosexuals are as much abnormal as pedophiles.
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If I am hearing you right, you are now saying something a little different than what this line would suggest. You are saying that you personally find male homosexuality as disgusting and repellent as the idea of pedophilia. That is kinda like me saying that I find the idea of eating cow tongue to be as disgusting as eating rotted roadkill. I wouldn't be saying those who eat cow tongue are abnormal, or that they would share any traits with someone who would eat roadkill.


In the end, the one criticism you have of gay male sex is the same criticism that could be said about any of the sex any of us have. Any sex act that is performed by any couple is going to be disgusting to someone somewhere. If you masturbate, then you are not only thwarting nature yourself, you are deeply disgusting many people around the globe. It would seem that personal distaste is a poor way to distinguish what sex acts are appropriate and which are not. If you think about it, you will see that pedophilia is distinguished as wrong by far more criteria than simply being repulsive.
 
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