The 12-12 From Seed Thread

hey guys...about to be starting up some 12/12 fs and i wanted to see what people have found to be the most efficient/effective method for germing...the last time i did this i used the paper towel method...any thoughts? thanks...
 
grapefruit krush from emerald 400w cool tube took 11 weeks to finish soil...had to bend her early long side shoots..and the smell....OMG...LETS SEE HOW SHE SMOKES
 
gunslinger84 said:
hey guys...about to be starting up some 12/12 fs and i wanted to see what people have found to be the most efficient/effective method for germing...the last time i did this i used the paper towel method...any thoughts? thanks...
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I've been 90% successful by the wet paper towel method...I exhale fully into the ziplock before I seal it to up the CO2 and then I slide it under the fridge, the zip on top of a dry paper towel to insulate against the cold tile floor. The heat from the fridge compressor is just right. They usually pop within 24 hrs, 48 at most.
 
I only use the paper towel method when Im testing the seeds germ rate. With known good seeds I prefer the old fashioned stick em in dirt and wet em down!
 
I stick seeds in the little hole in a wet 1" rockwool cube, pinch the hole closed and wait 2 days till little green leaves poke out. Only had 1 seed not pop, ever, when using that method.
 
drolove said:
heres what i found. i think theres something missing lol.

So this grow, I am going to grow with a modified soil. I started with my depleted soil from the first grow and mixed in a little fresh plain potting soil. To this, I added a specially concocted homebrew that consists of all organics. I've modified my soil with bat guano, kelp meal, bone meal, dried blood meal, earthworm casings, marine cuisine, perlite, and probably something else that I'm forgetting.
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Sorry, I was feeling lazy... Here's what I use:

Amended Coco recipe:
Expand 1 brick of coco in 1 to 1-1/4 gallons water in a large bucket.
Mix the following into the expanded coco:

6 tablespoons each of Blood meal, Kelp meal and Bone meal
3 tablespoons each of Marine Cuisine and Bat Guano
½ cup lime
1 Package Mycos
6 cups of Earthworm casings
10 cups of Perlite

Mix everything together and let soil mixture “rest” for 5-7 days, stirring it thoroughly at least once each day. Plant your plants in the soil mix and add water when necessary. That’s it!
When you move from vegetation stage into the flower stage, you can top dress if desired with ½ cup each of bat guano and Marine Cuisine for additional nutrients.
 
Thanks Smoke your own!! I like that super cropping, works well!!!
When I first started this plant, I asked Del about using the small pots and wondering if they might get root bound!!! Here some pictures showing it doesn't get root bound!more elephant 006.JPGmore elephant 007.JPGmore elephant 008.JPGmore elephant 009.JPGmore elephant 002.JPGmore elephant 003.JPG
 
Yep, I checked the root system on one that I just chopped. It was in a 10L airpot and the roots didn't even come close to filling that out. I'm sticking with 6L pots from now on.

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Good day .. I started on 15L airpots, then to 10L then to 6L
im now using 6L with base insert higher effectively making it about 4L.. Still thinking about getting some 3L's ;) they seem to work really well, will check root system on this lot then decide. Only downside is watering pretty much everyday
 
mantiszn said:
Good day .. I started on 15L airpots, then to 10L then to 6L
im now using 6L with base insert higher effectively making it about 4L.. Still thinking about getting some 3L's ;) they seem to work really well, will check root system on this lot then decide. Only downside is watering pretty much everyday
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your lucky its only once a day using such small airpots mate .....thats one reason i threw mine away....
 
You have a good point there, del. Hmm, maybe set each airpot inside a slightly larger plastic pot... I'm not ready to chuck my airpots yet!!

Has anyone ever gotten rootbound on 12/12fs?
 
Same reason I was also thinking about possibly switching to a slightly larger square pot, maybe 5L
I really can't water twice a day :( even with just 3

I hate even watering every second day let alone everyday, twice a day would be torture.
The fact that my water is so bad I have to run it through a Brita filter first doesn't help matters either.
I need a watering assistant, my missus wasnt too happy when I asked her if she'd oblige :P

del66666 said:
your lucky its only once a day using such small airpots mate .....thats one reason i threw mine away....
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mantiszn said:
Same reason I was also thinking about possibly switching to a slightly larger square pot, maybe 5L
I really can't water twice a day :( even with just 3

I hate even watering every second day let alone everyday, twice a day would be torture.
The fact that my water is so bad I have to run it through a Brita filter first doesn't help matters either.
I need a watering assistant, my missus wasnt too happy when I asked her if she'd oblige :P
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whats so bad about your water mate?
 
hardwater :/
ph over 8 out the tap and ppm's high too
can just tell its not great quality, tastes awful.

also i find when I ph the water out the tap it will sit at 6 then starts rising again

so instead I run through the filter, comes out at ph of 6 and stays at 6, I've wondered if I am wasting my time, but I'm worried if I change it may screw up my plants, kind of sticking with what works, but would like to not have to do it.

I've thought about getting an air pump and stone and just letting it sit in a bucket overnight, get all the chlorine out etc.. will probably still need to ph though

del66666 said:
whats so bad about your water mate?
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