Bypassing power meter?

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dbkick

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this may not be the place to ask that question. most growers don't agree with stealing power. i'm all for it but you'll end up getting busted eventually. and they just won't hit you with a fine or take your meter away. stealing power is a sure sign of growing and the utility company just calls the feds to come break your door down. meter readers aren't stupid. they can spot that shit a mile away. plus with new transformers and smart meters it's basically impossible. they can measure the return neutral on your grid and tell if you are stealing power.
you said it, most growers hate a fucking criminal. I remember a local news story here, someone was stealing copper wiring from somewhere, can't remember the details. The end result was the copper was very very live and the fucking criminal was instantly killed, harsh for such a petty crime but justice served.
Having said that I guess some people have no choice but to steal the power because coming up with a legit reason for using 10 times the normal is a little difficult, the problem with that is the criminal obviously is greedy and buys more and more lights (since he's paying nothing for power and seems to have all this extra cash ) . would be nice but I hate a fucking criminal.
 

Red1966

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WOW ur stupid!!! Nicola tesla was making free wireless power for the people, actually had a working tower up at one point. His funding got cut because it was not going to make a profit for the big guy. so Thomas Edison came in and made it a complete monopoly, also he had a hand in making appliances use a lot of electricity in the beginning. U think hydro stores are bad? U have some learning to do
Tesla never intended to give away electricity. His "working" tower never transmitted more than a few hundred feet and used an ENORMOUS amount of power. 5 MEGAwatts to transmit a couple hundred watts. Frankly, all these guys trying to justify theft from the power company would steal from any of else and use the same excuses.
 

Red1966

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How did he fail? Because the big guys cut funding when they found out it could not be used to rape the people of there hard earned money? As I said he already had a WORKING TOWER that actually worked so don't give me this he failed bullshit. Sounds like you back up the money hungry scum of this earth, no wonder you don't see the Rockefeller connection.
See my reply on the "working tower". Selling a product the people want is rape? So, I assume you work without pay, give away your crops, invite strangers to live and eat free in your home. If not, you're a rapist.
 

Corso312

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you said it, most growers hate a fucking criminal. I remember a local news story here, someone was stealing copper wiring from somewhere, can't remember the details. The end result was the copper was very very live and the fucking criminal was instantly killed, harsh for such a petty crime but justice served.
Having said that I guess some people have no choice but to steal the power because coming up with a legit reason for using 10 times the normal is a little difficult, the problem with that is the criminal obviously is greedy and buys more and more lights (since he's paying nothing for power and seems to have all this extra cash ) . would be nice but I hate a fucking criminal.

you know who i hate more than a guy who steals power? the scumbags at b.p. who destroyed the gulf coast and handed out millions in safety bonuses months later..and the pieces of shit at enron who stole all their workers pensions...and the power companies who pay lobbyists to keep rates as high as possible while controlling a monopoly ... you have every right to not like someone stealing power...i don't steal power ..i know a few people who do...some for years some for a decade ..but i tend to direct my anger at the top(greediest) not the bottom...know this though... my neighbor 5 years ago was late 60's...widowed ..husband died of cancer...son died in a fire...he was a fireman...so this very nice woman who worked her whole life gets laid off.... times are tight...reverse mortgage ...sold car , wedding ring ...the whole nine yards....fast forward a year...she is in hospital and gets out..kidney problems on dialysis ....power company shuts her juice off....it is maybe 90 out...i see windows open..no fans going..i knock to make sure she is ok...it is hot as hell in house ..no power...her dialysis machine needs power...i pay her bill...110 dollars...call em up and say hey...this lady needs power now! bill is paid ..she has health issues ...they tell me today...nothing ...tomorrow i call again ..on hold for 40 minutes ..tell the dumb bitch ..listen this lady needs power..i am running extension cords over there..wsup with restoring ?...today for sure! is what i am told...4 days later these fucks come out to restore...great way to do business and show some fucking compassion for another human...but they can pull this crap because they are a monopoly and have no competition ..easy to be successful when you buy off dirty state politicians to keep the game going your way...fuck these greedy scumbags
 

dbkick

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you know who i hate more than a guy who steals power? the scumbags at b.p. who destroyed the gulf coast and handed out millions in safety bonuses months later..and the pieces of shit at enron who stole all their workers pensions...and the power companies who pay lobbyists to keep rates as high as possible while controlling a monopoly ... you have every right to not like someone stealing power...i don't steal power ..i know a few people who do...some for years some for a decade ..but i tend to direct my anger at the top(greediest) not the bottom...know this though... my neighbor 5 years ago was late 60's...widowed ..husband died of cancer...son died in a fire...he was a fireman...so this very nice woman who worked her whole life gets laid off.... times are tight...reverse mortgage ...sold car , wedding ring ...the whole nine yards....fast forward a year...she is in hospital and gets out..kidney problems on dialysis ....power company shuts her juice off....it is maybe 90 out...i see windows open..no fans going..i knock to make sure she is ok...it is hot as hell in house ..no power...her dialysis machine needs power...i pay her bill...110 dollars...call em up and say hey...this lady needs power now! bill is paid ..she has health issues ...they tell me today...nothing ...tomorrow i call again ..on hold for 40 minutes ..tell the dumb bitch ..listen this lady needs power..i am running extension cords over there..wsup with restoring ?...today for sure! is what i am told...4 days later these fucks come out to restore...great way to do business and show some fucking compassion for another human...but they can pull this crap because they are a monopoly and have no competition ..easy to be successful when you buy off dirty state politicians to keep the game going your way...fuck these greedy scumbags
well, I certainly can't and won't disagree with you there but still that's no justification for stealing power. The power anyone steals will be paid for and it won't be by the power company, they'll just pass the loss along to the paying customer as all do.
 

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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if i could do it without getting caught i would. but therein lies the rub. i'd rather pay my bills than risk getting caught and losing a whole lot more than a few hundred bucks every month. if you're in an illegal and you are worried about a spike in consumption raising red flags then chances are you've got a few lights running. look into a generator then. no need for the added risk of having the utility company call the cops.
 

Wetdog

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My cousin works for Florida Plunder and Loot and spends most days in the company of Five-Oh.

His full time job with FPL is finding and then letting Five-Oh bust, power thieves. He told me ~95% are grow ops with a few heavy fabricators tossed in, welding and such. Said many of them would never even been noticed if they weren't stealing the juice.

A $600/month electric bill in Fl wouldn't even raise an eyebrow, as long as it was paid.

Wet
 

colonuggs

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this is what happens when you steal power


[h=1]United States Attorney Jenny A. Durkan
Western District of Washington[/h][h=1]Leader Of Marijuana Manufacturing Conspiracy Sentenced To Ten Years In Prison[/h][h=2]Defendant Laundered Money through Garden Store, Had Five Firearms to Protect Drugs and Cash[/h]FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 2, 2012

A 42-year-old Renton, Washington, man was sentenced today in U.S. District Court in Tacoma to ten years in prison and five years of supervised release for his leadership role in a marijuana manufacturing scheme, announced U.S. Attorney Jenny A. Durkan. PHUOC HUY NGUYEN TRUONG, conspired with others to grow marijuana in houses throughout South King County and the Tacoma area. In many instances the coconspirators altered the wiring at the homes to steal power to operate the marijuana grows. After the homes were contaminated with mold and toxic chemicals used in grow operations they were abandoned and foreclosed by various banks. When authorities searched TRUONG’s home and car on March 1, 2011, they found five firearms, which he has admitted he used to protect his drug operation. At sentencing U.S. District Judge Ronald B. Leighton said the sentence is appropriate though it comes with “a bite that stings.” Judge Leighton noted that manufacturing marijuana while possessing weapons is a serious crime, and the sentence should cause others to think twice before becoming involved in the mix of guns and drugs.
TRUONG and his coconspirators operated Seapac Gardening Equipment, in Fife, Washington. The company supplied equipment and other supplies to manufacture marijuana. Between 2006 and 2010, TRUONG caused cash deposits totaling $1,292,428 to be made into Seapac’s bank account. The money was from the sale of distribution of marijuana grown in various grow houses associated with TRUONG and his cohorts. TRUONG stole power for the grow-ops at three homes in Tacoma and two in Renton. As part of his sentence he is required to pay restitution to Puget Sound Energy and Tacoma Power totaling $71,289.
On October 1, 2011, TRUONG pleaded guilty to Conspiracy to Manufacture and Distribute Marijuana, Money Laundering and Possession of a Firearm in Furtherance of Drug Trafficking. The weapons charge requires a consecutive five year sentence in addition to the sentence on the other counts of conviction.
In their sentencing memo, prosecutors noted that the firearms are a dangerous component of marijuana grows. “Truong possessed five firearms in furtherance of his drug trafficking, two of which were loaded when recovered by law enforcement. Marijuana is a cash crop, and burglaries of marijuana grows are common. Individuals who manufacture marijuana often arm themselves to protect themselves and their illegal crops, and this interplay of drugs and firearms creates a significant risk of violence,” prosecutors wrote in their sentencing memo.
“This defendant learned the hard way that ‘going green’ in Tacoma and Renton has nothing to do with growing marijuana,” said Kenneth J. Hines, the IRS Special Agent in Charge of the Pacific Northwest. “He also learned that laundering dirty money does not conceal drug traffickers from law enforcement.”
This was an Organized Crime and Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) investigation, providing supplemental federal funding to the federal and state agencies involved. The case was investigated by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation (IRS-CI), the Auburn Police Department and the Washington State Patrol (WSP).
The case was prosecuted by Assistant United States Attorney Karyn Johnson and Special Assistant United States Attorney Jim Schacht.
 

SantaCruzed

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I'm going to tell you how to bypass the meter right now! GROW OUTSIDE!!! Seriously dude! Put a great big "X" on your house with a sign that say's "Yep, i'm ripping you off"

Just don't do it.
 

chrishydro

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Think of it this way, when they catch you, and they will catch you, should the po po come to the door and get a wiff of your action you wont have to worry about the comunity service and small fine. lol You can go hang out with the other guys that did something stupid and got caught.
 

Nukebisket

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Tesla never intended to give away electricity. His "working" tower never transmitted more than a few hundred feet and used an ENORMOUS amount of power. 5 MEGAwatts to transmit a couple hundred watts. Frankly, all these guys trying to justify theft from the power company would steal from any of else and use the same excuses.
Wow you are incredibly STUPID!!! 1. He intended to give this free wireless power away and that is why his funding got cut. 2. His tower didn't run on any electricity!! It used subtle energy from the earth!! STFU if you don't know what your talking about!

Wardenclyffe Tower (1901–1917) also known as the Tesla Tower, was an early wireless telecommunications tower designed by Nikola Tesla and intended for commercial trans-Atlantic wireless telephony, broadcasting, and to demonstrate the transmission of power without interconnecting wires.[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] The core facility was not completed due to financial problems, caused by the financier withdrawing funds due to the fact that there was no profit to be made from constructing this tower.

[h=3]Wireless transmission[/h]The second result demonstrated how energy could be made to go through space without any connecting wires.


Now take your lying candy ass and GTFO!!
 

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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Wow you are incredibly STUPID!!! 1. He intended to give this free wireless power away and that is why his funding got cut. 2. His tower didn't run on any electricity!! It used subtle energy from the earth!! STFU if you don't know what your talking about!

Wardenclyffe Tower (1901–1917) also known as the Tesla Tower, was an early wireless telecommunications tower designed by Nikola Tesla and intended for commercial trans-Atlantic wireless telephony, broadcasting, and to demonstrate the transmission of power without interconnecting wires.[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] The core facility was not completed due to financial problems, caused by the financier withdrawing funds due to the fact that there was no profit to be made from constructing this tower.

Wireless transmission

The second result demonstrated how energy could be made to go through space without any connecting wires.


Now take your lying candy ass and GTFO!!
calm down man...it's just an internet forum.
 

kpmarine

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Wow you are incredibly STUPID!!! 1. He intended to give this free wireless power away and that is why his funding got cut. 2. His tower didn't run on any electricity!! It used subtle energy from the earth!! STFU if you don't know what your talking about!

Wardenclyffe Tower (1901–1917) also known as the Tesla Tower, was an early wireless telecommunications tower designed by Nikola Tesla and intended for commercial trans-Atlantic wireless telephony, broadcasting, and to demonstrate the transmission of power without interconnecting wires.[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] The core facility was not completed due to financial problems, caused by the financier withdrawing funds due to the fact that there was no profit to be made from constructing this tower.

Wireless transmission

The second result demonstrated how energy could be made to go through space without any connecting wires.


Now take your lying candy ass and GTFO!!
No, his funding got cut because he said the tower was being built to be the first wireless telegraph, not to provide power to the masses. J.P. Morgan didn't give two shits about the power transmission bit, he just wanted the first wireless communication device.. However, someone else beat Tesla to it (While using a ton of Tesla's patents, to be fair.). Turns out the wireless telegraph was a much cheaper way to send telegrams than Tesla's tower. His tower had alot of potential, it got cut for the same reason every other investment loses funding. It wasn't turning a profit (Or even functioning fully.). It as a huge money pit, the damn thing was called "Tesla's million dollar folly." or something of the sort. Also, it was powered by an industrial generator; not "subtle energy from the earth", which he burned out trying to power his invention. Ironically, depriving a nearby town of power until the generator was fixed. The man was a genius, however, he did not acheive nearly the success you credit him with.
 

phillk6751

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look into rodin coils and how to apply the technology to led lights, theres a guy on youtube showing off his setup daniel nunez i think his name is. you could savena lot of electricity legit this way without stealing it. however you will need to know a bit about resonant frequencies and oscillators and whatnot. its basically pulse modulated electricity and efficiency is amazing when paired with technologies like leds
 

Nukebisket

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Also, it was powered by an industrial generator; not "subtle energy from the earth",
Actually it was, it was not "powered by a generator". The generator power was being amplified by the tower before being sent out wireless, it in no way "powered" the tower.

Tesla wanted to saturate the globe with electricity as a dynamo so that everyone on the surface of the globe could obtain electrical light just by sticking wires into the soil and a electrical bulb would light. When J.P. Morgan heard about the Tesla project, he was asked: "How can we get money from the electricity which Tesla is supplying to every part of the world?" After that Morgan cut the funds and the Tower was never finished.

Ironically, depriving a nearby town of power until the generator was fixed. Thats BS also

Pack that in your pipe and smoke it
 

kpmarine

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Actually it was, it was not "powered by a generator". The generator power was being amplified by the tower before being sent out wireless, it in no way "powered" the tower.

Tesla wanted to saturate the globe with electricity as a dynamo so that everyone on the surface of the globe could obtain electrical light just by sticking wires into the soil and a electrical bulb would light. When J.P. Morgan heard about the Tesla project, he was asked: "How can we get money from the electricity which Tesla is supplying to every part of the world?" After that Morgan cut the funds and the Tower was never finished.

Ironically, depriving a nearby town of power until the generator was fixed. Thats BS also

Pack that in your pipe and smoke it
I'd be more than happy to change my stance on this. Where do you get this information?
 

polyarcturus

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if teslas shit was working so well i would have built one a while ago........

they probably did cut funding but for several good reasons,(none of which being free elec) tesla was a mad man when it came to spending cash to build things.
 
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