How our lives will change with a President Ron Paul

[Parker]

I bet Ron's Flock believe the Free Market is what furthers Medicine but then why is it Big Pharma claims to spend so much money on research yet all they come up with is Boner pills and the last known cure was Polio? There's no $ in the cure.

Because big Pharm is in bed with government you fool. In no way is Big Phama free market.

 

[UncleBuck]

Because big Pharm is in bed with government you fool. In no way is Big Phama free market.

imagine what a field day big pharma would have without any oversight or regulation.

old mcronald's wet dream, a nightmare for consumers.

 

[Parker]

MRIs. NASA didn't invent them, but their image enhancement and processing originally developed to better look at the moon made the MRI possible.

In the present times I know medicine uses modern technology developed from the computer industry in the private sector.
okay so they didn't invent it but they helped innovate it. And that was back in the 1960's. Gee I guess that settles it, you really really backed up your statement. Imbecile.

i could go on and on, but there are a ton of innovations from NASA that got applied to the medical field.

government funding made the medical field what it is today.

You can't go on and on because you haven't said anything to begin with.

 

[UncleBuck]

In the present times I know medicine uses modern technology developed from the computer industry in the private sector.
okay so they didn't invent it but they helped innovate it. And that was back in the 1960's. Gee I guess that settles it, you really really backed up your statement. Imbecile.

You can't go on and on because you haven't said anything to begin with.

imbecile? that was not called for just because your whiney pussy is wrong once again.

• Digital imaging breast biopsy system, developed from Hubble Space Telescope technology
• Tiny transmitters to monitor the fetus inside the womb
• Laser angioplasty, using fiber-optic catheters
• Forceps with fiber optics that let doctors measure the pressure applied to a baby's head during delivery
• Cool suit to lower body temperature in treatment of various conditions
• Voice-controlled wheelchairs
• Light-emitting diodes (LED) for help in brain cancer surgery
• Foam used to insulate space shuttle external tanks for less expensive, better molds for artificial arms and legs
• Programmable pacemakers
• Tools for cataract surgery

• government funding made the medical field what it is today.
  
  
  
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[Parker]

imbecile? that was not called for just because your whiney pussy is wrong once again.

The truth is always called for freakshow.

• Digital imaging breast biopsy system, developed from Hubble Space Telescope technology
• Tiny transmitters to monitor the fetus inside the womb
• Laser angioplasty, using fiber-optic catheters
• Forceps with fiber optics that let doctors measure the pressure applied to a baby's head during delivery
• Cool suit to lower body temperature in treatment of various conditions
• Voice-controlled wheelchairs
• Light-emitting diodes (LED) for help in brain cancer surgery
• Foam used to insulate space shuttle external tanks for less expensive, better molds for artificial arms and legs
• Programmable pacemakers
• Tools for cataract surgery

• government funding made the medical field what it is today.
  
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Voice controlled wheelchairs lmao. Yea that helps tons of people.
I'm going to ask you this although it will go right over your pointed little head. At what cost?

Where did you get this info? Especially the cataract info?
Cool suit to lower body temperature in treatment of various conditions- Navy develop it?

 

[Parker]

imagine what a field day big pharma would have without any oversight or regulation.

old mcronald's wet dream, a nightmare for consumers.

Ask Europe if they are having big problems getting medicine to be accepted.

"But Paul did get his language included in the bill that forces FDA to accept data from clinical investigations conducted outside of the U.S., including the European Union, because Paul says it will speed getting life-saving drugs to the market.
Paul hailed passage of the bill because it contained some of his words.
"Innovation in clinical drug trials should not be confined to the data received from trials in the United States. Findings from countries that incorporate the same rigorous requirements as we do when developing life-saving drugs and devices should be accepted by the FDA as well," Paul said. "I am proud to see this important step being taken to increase the treatment options of millions of Americans currently hampered by outdated laws."

 

[MellowFarmer]

The truth is always called for freakshow.

Voice controlled wheelchairs lmao. Yea that helps tons of people.
I'm going to ask you this although it will go right over your pointed little head. At what cost?

Where did you get this info? Especially the cataract info?
Cool suit to lower body temperature in treatment of various conditions- Navy develop it?

For starters all of our Soldiers with legs blown off - why don't you ask them if the cost is worth it jack ass.

AND ALL BIG CORPORATIONS WALL ST BANKS ARE IN BED WITH THE GOVERNMENT - THEY CALL IT FREE MARKET HERE IN THE STATES

 

[MellowFarmer]

Ask Europe if they are having big problems getting medicine to be accepted.

"But Paul did get his language included in the bill that forces FDA to accept data from clinical investigations conducted outside of the U.S., including the European Union, because Paul says it will speed getting life-saving drugs to the market.
Paul hailed passage of the bill because it contained some of his words.
"Innovation in clinical drug trials should not be confined to the data received from trials in the United States. Findings from countries that incorporate the same rigorous requirements as we do when developing life-saving drugs and devices should be accepted by the FDA as well," Paul said. "I am proud to see this important step being taken to increase the treatment options of millions of Americans currently hampered by outdated laws."

The FDA only approves things that benefit the FDA.

 

[El dankyoso]

Government is the problem
Most of those things would be created in a free market
If government wouldn't monopolize it
If you wanted to start a space company
You would pay billions just for regulations
If it's not flatout illegal
Government prohibits us from stem cell research
I think get the government out and we will live forever
What if you wanted to open up a nuclear plant
You would again pay billions in regulation
See the pattern here
Government prices pour people out of the market
Big corporations thrive with regulations
In free market we would all have nuclear little batteries
That can power your cars a million times more effeicient than gas

 

[MellowFarmer]

Big Corporations only thrive from regulations because They write the regulations. What government monopolies? NASA? Nuclear plants? The government is currupted is what's wrong with government!
Who was behind the 1937 Stamp Act? Powerful, Rich Business men, Private Business killing off competition

 

[El dankyoso]

All of a sudden we are going to elect angels to government
Give me a break
We need freedom
What's so bad about personal freedom
And taking responsibility for that freedom

 

[MellowFarmer]

Ask Europe if they are having big problems getting medicine to be accepted.

"But Paul did get his language included in the bill that forces FDA to accept data from clinical investigations conducted outside of the U.S., including the European Union, because Paul says it will speed getting life-saving drugs to the market.
Paul hailed passage of the bill because it contained some of his words.
"Innovation in clinical drug trials should not be confined to the data received from trials in the United States. Findings from countries that incorporate the same rigorous requirements as we do when developing life-saving drugs and devices should be accepted by the FDA as well," Paul said. "I am proud to see this important step being taken to increase the treatment options of millions of Americans currently hampered by outdated laws."

Do you mean Socialized Medicine is better?

 

[MellowFarmer]

All of a sudden we are going to elect angels to government
Give me a break
We need freedom
What's so bad about personal freedom
And taking responsibility for that freedom

Absolutely nothing! I like my government Free from crooks!

 

[InCognition]

just stating the simple fact that many, many species care for their sick and wounded in nature. never mentioned government, that's your psycho delusion.

You did mention government and humans in regards to natural animals, in which you correlated the two (government and nature). This is not a delusion, this is what you did... correlated nature and government. Won't acknowledge it? That's fine.

is government not composed of humans? do humans not exist in nature? do societies or cultures or even tribes not set rules in a similar fashion to government?

It is composed of humans, what is your point? Didn't you just deny that you were correlating government via humans, to that of nature? You just correlated them with this statement. You're trolling on this basis, or just extremely oblivious... pick one.

that's the thing, what i call "helping" is what you call "forcing". whereas i see caring for the weak and infirm as my natural duty and the right thing to do, you see it as someone forcing you to do something.

That's the thing, what you call help is actually forcing. You refuse to acknowledge this for the simple reason that, using a 3rd party (government) to force a debits upon others, or threaten them will being locked in a cage, is force, no matter how you look at it.

While it may be "the right thing to do" based on your judgement, it's no more right, to take from society's pockets and threaten them with being caged, in order to achieve the goal of "doing what's right". A unjust solution is never just no matter how you word it. Your mentality on the subject is a complete fallacy. Not because I say so, it just makes no logical sense.

as a human, i want to help those worst off because they are fellow human beings and they deserve dignity. as a psycho, you would take joy in seeing the worst off die, and righteously so, because you are a psychopath with no empathy.

the rest of what you write is just nonsense and insults. you're psycho and you need help.

Good for you. Just because you want to help the worst off, does not make it your prerogative to force others in doing the same. That is an individual's call, not your call as some sort of "all-knowing" maniac, who thinks they should have say in how others prioritize their morals.

Humans do deserve dignity, I agree. What I don't agree with is people like you who want to force the dignity from one person to another, via financial or physical force. Someone with such train of thought deserves no dignity, as their dignity-orientated beliefs are actually that of complete hypocrisy, and ignorance.

Most of what I say, makes complete logical sense to that of the sane mind. Your ideas of force, that you don't want to acknowledge as force, are the only things here that are nonsense. While I do insult, you do the better of that on a higher frequency. Again continue the hypocrisy, it just further discredits you and your opinions in all aspects.

 

[Parker]

Do you mean Socialized Medicine is better?

lol no, the free market is. That was the point burner. Quit allowing Big Pharma to control the market.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

lol no, the free market is. That was the point burner. Quit allowing Big Pharma to control the market.

We have nothing close to capitalism, let alone a free market. What people don't get is we have a socialist corporate government backed economy that does extortion upon the few pure private business. The problem is democracy, which so many cheer for giving us freedoms, at the same time does the bidding for socialist corporations, like big pharma.

 

[MellowFarmer]

We have nothing close to capitalism, let alone a free market. What people don't get is we have a socialist corporate government backed economy that does extortion upon the few pure private business. The problem is democracy, which so many cheer for giving us freedoms, at the same time does the bidding for socialist corporations, like big pharma.

Then I want my Universal Healthcare, a Job and my tuition to college returned immediately!

We live in a Fascist not Socialist nation, it is a very fine line, understood, but We are Fascist beyond any shadow of doubt. No democracy, just the illusion of a democracy.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Then I want my Universal Healthcare, a Job and my tuition to college returned immediately!

We live in a Fascist not Socialist nation, it is a very fine line, understood, but We are Fascist beyond any shadow of doubt. No democracy, just the illusion of a democracy.

We are in no way fascist. This is a very socialist nation and has been so ever since that fucker FDR ruined us with his New Deal bullshit, along with Social Security. Notice the word social, not fascist?

" But while Mayor Giuliani may be tough on gardeners and poor people who receive welfare, his free-market credentials are sorely lacking. Under his tenure, New York has practiced an unrestrained form of corporate socialism."

http://www.nader.org/opinions/51599.html

Also what's up with the size command? Does it make up for your lack of a penis, times four? I don't know about others, I just find it annoying and eventually just scroll ignore. Just like I do with Wordz, I mean James, with his size 10 Comic Sans. If that's what you want, you need to step up your annoyance game. James is kicking your ass with his 10 foot e-penis, real life size one tenth inch.

 

[MellowFarmer]

OH Canna, YES I do want a huge cock, always! I see no reason to hide my penis envy? But yeah now you got me all distracted...

FDR 's death sadly preceded his implement ation of his proposed 2nd Bill of Rights: Right to Employment, Food, Shelter and Health Care.

I don't honestly understand how and ingrained note taking study skill to me is annoying to you. I get frustrated with the lack of. I take a deep breath before I read those sorts. Maybe that would help?

 

[Canna Sylvan]

I'm glad you know your problem, that's the first step to recovery. I see you mastered the second step, refusing to succumb to your clicking the size icon urge. I guess it was too late for Wordz though.

FDR getting elected is all that saddens me about him.

Your third recovery step is realizing all people are different. That's a good thing! Black people have dark skin. Women have no penis. Giving people points for that is stupid.

Step four is acknowledging you are you. You're a unique person. What mommy or daddy did, or their's did, and so on, you can take no credit for it! Whether good or bad, you didn't do shit, they did it. You can only take credit for what you personally have done.

My 12 step program works wonders, all without god or a higher power.