Penn To Obama on Marijuana "he would not be president under his policies"

[Dr Kynes]

i agree. a hardcore progressive like teddy would do us good.

in any case, one of the two is inevitable. which option do you prefer?

Theodore Roosevelt was definitely not "progressive". Some of his policies are now popular with the left, but he was a diehard capitalist, and opponent of big government. Shit if i listen to cnn or msnbc Reagan is now a leftist demagogue who spent his evenings snorting rails and banging hookers with Che Guevara.

In answer to your direct question, i prefer the one who hasnt lied to my face yet. That's Ron Paul. Or in a pinch, if it looks like obama might be gettin close to a win, romney

 

[UncleBuck]

Theodore Roosevelt was definitely not "progressive". Some of his policies are now popular with the left, but he was a diehard capitalist, and opponent of big government. Shit if i listen to cnn or msnbc Reagan is now a leftist demagogue who spent his evenings snorting rails and banging hookers with Che Guevara.

In answer to your direct question, i prefer the one who hasnt lied to my face yet. That's Ron Paul. Or in a pinch, if it looks like obama might be gettin close to a win, romney

lol, old mcronald is not an option, he's a loser.

lol @ you loving romney. way to invalidate anything intelligent you ever said.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

lol @ the idiot who can do nothing more than continuously post the same picture.

How is that an idiot? The real idiot is the one who constantly gets beat over the head with the same truth and never gets it. Obama isn't your friend. You're the one who wants a beer with him. I wouldn't even attend his impeachment sentencing.

 

[UncleBuck]

Theodore Roosevelt was definitely not "progressive".

lol, you're SOOOOO smart.

since you're SOOOOO smart, mind telling me who founded the progressive bull-moose party?

LOL!

 

[londonfog]

There is no federal law regarding what age one must be to drink booze.

each state makes it's own laws about minimum ages for sales service consumption and manufacture of alcoholic beverages.

federal regulations simply cut off funding from many federal sources for states that decline to accept the federal government's opinion on the subject.

Interestingly enough, parents may at their discretion serve booze to their kids at whatever age the parents decide is appropriate, but it is illegal to let kids get drunk. drunk however is un-defined, except when operating a motor vehicle. motor vehicle operation is also "illegal" for those under 16, unless their parents permit it. I learned to drive a pickup truck at age 9 I was driving tractors and combines by the time i was ten. at 12 i was parking 18 wheelers for my uncles, and running forklifts.

even gun ownership has a minimum age that can be overridden by parents. you must be 21 to purchase a handgun, or 18 for other firearms in california, but you can own a pistol at age 8 (like i did) if your parents allow it. heck you can even get deer huntin licenses at age 10.

why do people keep having to make different accounts.

 

[UncleBuck]

How is that an idiot? The real idiot is the one who constantly gets beat over the head with the same truth and never gets it. Obama isn't your friend. You're the one who wants a beer with him. I wouldn't even attend his impeachment sentencing.

obama isn't my friend, but my in-laws got to meet him recently and shake his hand. they now jokingly consider themselves to be good friends.

i'd love to have a beer with the guy and pick up some trolling pointers from the guy.

 

[UncleBuck]

why do people keep having to make different accounts.

you thinking nodrama?

 

[londonfog]

you thinking nodrama?

ROTFL...

 

[Dr Kynes]

lol, old mcronald is not an option, he's a loser.

lol @ you loving romney. way to invalidate anything intelligent you ever said.

Dude. I'm starting to wonder if you even read shit.

I did not in any way imply Reagan was running. I declared that Roosevelt (who is also NOT RUNNING) was not a progressive, and to add evidence, i cited the growing move in the left to claim Ronald Reagan as their own when it suits their agenda.

I further did not imply that i am in any way "loving romney" i have made it clear time and again, romney is a shit sandwich. a steaming pile of fresh rhino turds. a repugnant chamberpot full of night soil, and a greasy smear of crap on the wall of a public restroom. The only time i would ever even consider supporting that sickening mound of rotting feces is if it looks like that lying duplicitous cowardly poltroon Obama might be perilously close to a second term.

Your inability to grasp the subtleties of the english language could be a contributing factor in your continuing battle with logic, and common sense.

Or if you wish, in the parlance you seem to preferr,

U R Dum!!!11!1!!!one!!1!!uno!! lern 2 reed!

romney sucks but obama swallows. i vote romeny before i vote obama but me no likey romney neether. him stoopidhed and not likey ganja or booze or coffee! him alzo relijus dumdum in weerd cult.

I do hope this clears up any confusion on your part.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

obama isn't my friend,

Could've fooled me.

i'd love to have a beer with the guy and pick up some trolling pointers from the guy.

I'd love Harrekin to drink Obama under the table after getting deported to Harrekin's country.

 

[Dr Kynes]

why do people keep having to make different accounts.

Different accounts? i assume you mean to imply that i am a sock puppet? nope. just me. a hayseed plowboy from the central valley in california if you wish to assume i am a sockpuppet concealing somebody else, feel free to do so, however this does not change the simple fact that there is no federal law dictating who may or may not drink booze.

if you can provide me the apprpriate section in the federal code ill be more than happy to say i am wrong. go ahead, ill wait over here.

 

[UncleBuck]

...the growing move in the left to claim Ronald Reagan as their own...

let's play a game. who said the following, obama or reagan:

“Unfortunately, Congress consistently brings the Government to the edge of default before facing its responsibility. This brinkmanship threatens the holders of government bonds and those who rely on Social Security and veterans benefits. ”

"Do you think the Millionaire should pay more in taxes than the bus driver, or less?"

"I believe in the idea of amnesty"

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[Dr Kynes]

lol, you're SOOOOO smart.

since you're SOOOOO smart, mind telling me who founded the progressive bull-moose party?

LOL!

yes the bull moose party called itself progressive, in the sense that they wished to move the country forward, in opposition to the republicans and democrats who were arguing to do more of the same shit that turned Theodore Roosevelt's successful and prosperous country when he left office at the end of his second term, into a pile of crap teetering on the brink of collapse a few years later when he decided to run for a third term.

The bull moose party was NOT "progressive" in the sense you use it. they were not a leftist, socialist, social democratic, anarcho-socialist, anarcho-syndicalist, or anracho-anythingist party that you can No-True-Scotsman away, or subsume into your personal agenda driven political fantasy world.

 

[Dr Kynes]

let's play a game. who said the following, obama or reagan:

“Unfortunately, Congress consistently brings the Government to the edge of default before facing its responsibility. This brinkmanship threatens the holders of government bonds and those who rely on Social Security and veterans benefits. ”

"Do you think the Millionaire should pay more in taxes than the bus driver, or less?"

"I believe in the idea of amnesty"



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Yes, reagan had many ideals that are rejected by the political hacks in the republican party today. this does not make obama any less of a turd. and im still wating for a reference to this "holder memo" you speak of in such glowing terms.

Reagan also ran the largest union in southern california for many years. this does not make obama's lies any truthier, nor does it make romney's mormonism any less culty or wacky.

try to stay on topic. your deflections are growing tiresome.

let me direct you on the way back to the subject at hand:

point 1) Obama says he will not prosecute or persecute people in states with mmj laws, yet allows holder and the DOJ to do so with impunity. this makes him a liar.

point 2) There is no "Holder Memo" on this subject yet you continue to referr to it.

point 3)Holder is acting as Obama's surrogate to appear tough on crime, while ignoring Obama's declaration that MMJ laws should be respected in the states which have passed them.

 

[londonfog]

Different accounts? i assume you mean to imply that i am a sock puppet? nope. just me. a hayseed plowboy from the central valley in california if you wish to assume i am a sockpuppet concealing somebody else, feel free to do so, however this does not change the simple fact that there is no federal law dictating who may or may not drink booze.

if you can provide me the apprpriate section in the federal code ill be more than happy to say i am wrong. go ahead, ill wait over here.

Mr.Puppet I tell you what..Get your grand-babies go to a bar or even a restaurant order enough booze for everyone to drink. Lets see if you will be able to let you underage grandkids drink..I also want you to show me where I said Federal law. I said in the USA you have to be 21..You got a state that will let a child drink underage let me know..and that bullshit on you can give your child alcohol is bullshit. Let the right folks know that you let your underage kids drink and we see just how your life would change. Now go make another account Mr.Puppet

 

[UncleBuck]

...Roosevelt ... was not a progressive

 

[UncleBuck]

point 1) Obama says he will not prosecute or persecute people in states with mmj laws, yet allows holder and the DOJ to do so with impunity. this makes him a liar.

lol, you think you sound smart. you're a stupid person's idea of what a smart person sounds like. he never said what you claim above, as you said earlier, it was to not be made a "focus".

point 2) There is no "Holder Memo" on this subject yet you continue to referr to it.

it's shorthand. whatever the memo was called it was issued by holder. just like people refer to the PPACA as 'obamacare'. it's shorthand.

the fact that you have to harp on this so much reveals how weak your hand is.

point 3)Holder is acting as Obama's surrogate to appear tough on crime, while ignoring Obama's declaration that MMJ laws should be respected in the states which have passed them.

imagine that. it's as if they were politicians

 

[Dr Kynes]

Mr.Puppet I tell you what..Get your grand-babies go to a bar or even a restaurant order enough booze for everyone to drink. Lets see if you will be able to let you underage grandkids drink..I also want you to show me where I said Federal law. I said in the USA you have to be 21..You got a state that will let a child drink underage let me know..and that bullshit on you can give your child alcohol is bullshit. Let the right folks know that you let your underage kids drink and we see just how your life would change. Now go make another account Mr.Puppet

so many ad-hominem attacks, in conjunction with reductio ad absurdum... another past master of rhetorical fallacy emerges from the undergrowth!

still only got the one account, and i have neither children nor grandchildren.
youths are not allowed in bars, due to state laws, and in california it is widely accepted that children may receive sacramental wine at communion, drink wine or beer at meals with their parents, and on occasion even drink distilled spirits under parental supervision. this does not mean a kid can swagger up to a bar and demand a round of whiskey.

being wrong doesnt make you look stupid, acting like somebody called you stupid when they said you was wrong makes you look stupid. especially when they is right.

Huzzah for the kneejerk reaction though. makes me feel like a sucessful troll when all im doin is speakin truth.

 

[UncleBuck]

The bull moose party was NOT "progressive" in the sense you use it. they were not a leftist, socialist, social democratic, anarcho-socialist, anarcho-syndicalist, or anracho-anythingist party that you can No-True-Scotsman away, or subsume into your personal agenda driven political fantasy world.

you silly bro.

they believed in a heavy progressive tax. they pioneered the estate tax. they wanted to "pass prosperity around".

if they had fox news back in the day, they would have called him a welath redistributionist and a socialist.

you're flailing.

 

[UncleBuck]

being wrong doesnt make you look stupid...

in your case it does, especially when you say teddy roosevelt wasn't a hardcore progressive.

...all im doin is speakin truth.

no, you're not.