the funny thing about yield..

gladstoned

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Gallon-gal-Humboldt-Honey-Organic-ES-Molasses-Hydroponic-Nutrient-Supplement-/120794027501?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1fe295ed

I want to try this, but for a few bucks I need to take three clones and do one with no molasses, one with grandma's or whatever the store has, and then one with the Humboldt. I am aware that in the world of grow stores you often do not "get what you pay for", but I am want great meds, of course, but I also want to know as much as I can about all products. I appreciate the advice from everyone.
 

SketchyGrower

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also just to add.. I use a ton of Bennies in my growing.. So,when I feed them I like to feel like I'm spoiling them... I mean fuck my dog gets a new toy almost once a week. Why can't my plants get spoiled with some Snake oil water? ;) naw I kid, Out of the Molasses I used before (Botaincare - Strapped ,HH - hydro carbs) when I switched over to the HH ES the addition of the
yucca & kelp
in the ES seemed to really be enjoyed by the plants. Just an observation
 

tomcatjones

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Gallon-gal-Humboldt-Honey-Organic-ES-Molasses-Hydroponic-Nutrient-Supplement-/120794027501?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1fe295ed

I want to try this, but for a few bucks I need to take three clones and do one with no molasses, one with grandma's or whatever the store has, and then one with the Humboldt. I am aware that in the world of grow stores you often do not "get what you pay for", but I am want great meds, of course, but I also want to know as much as I can about all products. I appreciate the advice from everyone.

that is what i thought when i started using the 130 dollar line of organic nutrients called nectar for the gods. Rave reviews and then of course later i find out that 1 bottle was basically steamed bone meal with some added sugars and then another bottle was sugar water. -i could have kept using the molasses!! i was ahead of the game to start but then i got suckered in by some pretty bottles and the promise of good bud. -it could have been great bud too i bet - but i'm not paying 25 bucks for some sugar water. i get 6 months worth for the same price. i had gotten a lot of crap for using it by some organic growers and that is what led me to make my own amended soil. some of their sage wisdom and guidance and a ton of reading.

and now making your own teas seems easier.

you get teaming with microbes yet gladstoned?
 

abe supercro

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Can you give us an idea of what teas u may make Tomcat? I've used worm castings once. Why did u suggest Not using chicken shit for compost at one point? thanks...
 

gladstoned

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I am not using teas yet. I have amended soil. To help understand the living soil I am going to study some skunk magazines. That is the way I am going with soil for sure.
As far as chicken shit, I have heard it is very difficult, but I want to put it in a worm compost, with rabbit shit.
 

gladstoned

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I really like the concept of veganics. I have not read too much though. I want to finish framing these rooms, then sit down for several days and study. That is why I haven't built worm compost bin and why I didn't get rabbits last week. I wanted a few chickens anyway.
 

tomcatjones

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I really like the concept of veganics. I have not read too much though. I want to finish framing these rooms, then sit down for several days and study. That is why I haven't built worm compost bin and why I didn't get rabbits last week. I wanted a few chickens anyway.
yeah same here. veganic seems like the best way to go.

poultry litter and cow are two that i'd be hesitant to use for these reasons:
1. diet of the animal. plant or other based?
2. how was it composted -professionally, at home, treated?

so really source it beforehand - like i did not... some of those pots that have that sub-par organic cow manure and humus now have small little sprouts occasionally from left overs from cow droppings i'm sure.

-VERMICOMPOST is my solution. mostly plant diet for me leads to all plant diet for the worms and then the castings and compost should all be top-notch.

why i wouldn't use cow or poultry => animals are part of the food web but the excrement is far from the best. and some of that is again how its made.
http://www.slideshare.net/ElisaMendelsohn/arsenic-in-poultry-litter-organic-regulations

http://japr.fass.org/content/4/4/366.full.pdf

so to me it seems not worth it when there is a possibility that the manure i use may even kill off the essential microbes i want living in it.

BUT. if you are the one taking care of them, feeding them, composting it yourself, treating it.. then that is a different story - but i would still rather more plant based.


the less degrees from where the energy first came from = the sun; the better.
 

HomeLessBeans

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No it's not my thing. I can hum a couple bars, but don't sing the song. I just searched it up for you guys. I get back on the comp I'll link one on ACT teas. And homebrewing them.
 

gladstoned

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Bump.

gravity had to be sent back within 2 or 3 days and I didn't get it back in that time. I was just stocking my shelves and realized I was a liar, cuz I said I sent it back. I haven't used it, but I have it.
 

Murfy

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don't use the gravity!!!!-

i won't dispute the effectiveness. there is no question it works.

check the label.
 

Murfy

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a properly-

maintained plant will do just fine with silica and proper levels of ca and mg.
 

gladstoned

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don't use the gravity!!!!-

i won't dispute the effectiveness. there is no question it works.

check the label.
Not using it. I am setting it on my shelve to sit there with the other hydro shit I am not using.

Ya, I don't know what the fuck Im gonna do with it either.
 
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