Ultimate grow room for 15 amps

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

Mr. Electrician here has no clue as to how you house is wired. GFCI don't have higher rated curcuits, nor are they separate from the other circuits.

wow...you really are a piece of work. i've forgotten more about electrical installations in the last year than you'll know in your whole life. No, GFCI outlets aren't on seperate circuits...but try and read a little of the thread first. bathrooms are often wired seperately on their own breaker to accomodate things like hairdryers and curling irons that have a higher electrical draw. in most places it's code now that a bathroom's outlets have to be on their own circuit. most good electricians will also make that a 20 or 30 amp circuit.

you are a clown and you posts prove it.

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

You don't have 25 amps. Several sockets are on each circuit. You may have two or three rooms all on one circuit. You will need the figure out which sockets are fed from each breaker. Sockets on both sides of a wall may share a breaker. All the sockets on one side of the whole house may share one breaker! Two 600 watt lamps will draw a little over 12 amps. That's all you can safely put on one 15 amp circuit. Figure out how much power you have available and on what outlets and breakers and then plan your room. I plugged a vacuum cleaner into a socket ON THE OTHER END OF THE HOUSE and tripped the breaker for my lights. Two bathrooms, part of my kitchen, and one side of my grow room are one circuit. Part of my living room, two bedrooms, the hallway, and the other side of my grow room are on the other. I could use up to 30 amp, but I'd have no TV, lights, etc. in the rest of the house.

all this proves is you live in an old house with shitty electrical

 

[Red1966]

all this proves is you live in an old house with shitty electrical

Yeah, so you know his home is new and to the latest code? You're giving him bad advice. He's dumb enough to believe you. He's got student loans and he can't calculate 80% of 15. He's in college and can't do grade school math. You're not the expert you think you are. Hell, you can barely speak English.

 

[GreenDyl]

I was just saying I'm too lazy to figure it out dipshit

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

Yeah, so you know his home is new and to the latest code? You're giving him bad advice. He's dumb enough to believe you. He's got student loans and he can't calculate 80% of 15. He's in college and can't do grade school math. You're not the expert you think you are. Hell, you can barely speak English.

this has got to be a troll account for someone cause no one is this stupid or arrogant. i'm sorry that you can't understand my english but seeing that it is my first and native language i find it hard to believe that i'm that difficult to understand. either way your advice is incorrect and your attitude sucks so good luck with that. as for electrical installations; i think you've already proved you have no clue what you are talking about.

 

[BlueBalls]

If you can't calculate 80% of 15, you're too stupid to mix nutes. You'll kill your plants or burn down the house. Just go out and buy your pot.

That was uncalled for.
There was no reason for you to be a jerk.

 

[Red1966]

I was just saying I'm too lazy to figure it out dipshit

Not sure that's an improvement. But go ahead plug in as much as you can. Use cheap extension cords. The expensive ones don't work any better. You can run 2x 600 watt, a chiller, and an A/C, no problem.

 

[Red1966]

this has got to be a troll account for someone cause no one is this stupid or arrogant. i'm sorry that you can't understand my english but seeing that it is my first and native language i find it hard to believe that i'm that difficult to understand. either way your advice is incorrect and your attitude sucks so good luck with that. as for electrical installations; i think you've already proved you have no clue what you are talking about.

Yeah? Point out the incorrect part(s). I'll wait.

 

[Red1966]

That was uncalled for. There was no reason for you to be a jerk.

I could have been more discreet, I'll admit. But even you have to admit he is prey to wishful thinking. Scooby was giving bad advice. By the way, I have been employed wiring houses, RV's, and helicopters, so I do know a little about it. Assuming his home meets some specific code when he doesn't even know the age or location of the place is asking for trouble.

 

[Brother Numsi]

Stay on task guys...we are here to help, not flame. Speaking of flaming...you really need to know what's available to use from your electrical panel in each zone. Although it's not a great idea, there are some very heavy duty extension cords...I've run a 220 extension for an amplifier. Also I'd scrap the LED for veg. They prolly work best for veg, but the cost for what you get is not so good. A good T5 system with mixed bulbs and a couple extra flouros is what I'd use to veg and save on electricity.
You can always have an electrician come out and take a look at your wiring and redo what is needed.
Good luck.

 

[Red1966]

Stay on task guys...we are here to help, not flame. Speaking of flaming...you really need to know what's available to use from your electrical panel in each zone. Although it's not a great idea, there are some very heavy duty extension cords...I've run a 220 extension for an amplifier. Also I'd scrap the LED for veg. They prolly work best for veg, but the cost for what you get is not so good. A good T5 system with mixed bulbs and a couple extra flouros is what I'd use to veg and save on electricity. You can always have an electrician come out and take a look at your wiring and redo what is needed. Good luck.

but the cost for what you get is not so good

Second that!

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

on a 15 amp circuit you really shouldn't have more than 12amps. any electrician would tell you do not exceed 80% of the rated load. plus, 2 600w lights will actually pull 11amps so you won't have much wiggle room. especially for anything like an a/c, dehumidifier, etc... i would look into running less lights or figuring out a way to get additional power into that room.

plug something into the wall outlet you want to use. turn it on. then go to the breaker panel and start flipping the single pole breakers till you find the one that turns off that outlet. then on the breaker you will see a number (most likely 15, 20, or 30). that is how many amps that outlet is rated for. then take 80% of that number and that is the max load you should put on that outlet.

you need to check which outlets are wired onto which breakers. houses are usually wired in zones with all of the outlets in a room being on the same breaker. sometimes that is different though; especially in apartments and condos. just depends. a lot of times you will also see that kitchens and bathrooms will have larger breakers to accomodate appliances, hair dryers, etc... that have higher amp draws. could be though that the room and bathroom are all on the same breaker. you need to test them.

as far as a/c goes i would think that you are going to have to get a dual hose portable unit. in that case you will be exhausting hot air from the a/c back into the room and most likely some of the odor as well. those units aren't 100% sealed and to tend to leak a little. if you were able to have a carbon filter in the cab that would help.

as fas as design goes...who knows man. whatever you think wouldn't look suspicios. if you wanna maximize the space then figure that 2 600w lights are going to cover a 3x6 plant area. then you need room for the equipment, a/c, etc.. that sounds like a pretty big cabinet. maybe 4x8. at that point i would just make it look like an armoire or something.

how funny. i don't see a single thing in here that is bad advice. sure seems like we have a troll problem though. lmao.

 

[hellraizer30]

what part of the bathroom comment don't you understand. bathrooms and kitchens are normally wired with GFCI outlets and usually given higher amperage breakers. this is on newer installations of course. in the U.S. breakers are not wired continuosly throughout the entire house or apartment. normally not even in a bathroom with the same bedroom.

This is 100% true!

On a side note most houses are wired 12/2 and if your room has a 15 amp breaker on it you can just slap a 20amp in there,
wire are rated for alot more but 20 is safe