Does the hay smell go away?!

blindbaby

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i have had the same issue. to bag or not to bag. some of the renowned growers, like jorge, dont bag shit. i have done it both ways, and i think the jar situation, is what brings out the taste and smell. the bag just slows down the process. sounds like the way to go, if no mold comes.
 

blindbaby

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i hear most of the widow is fake. the "black widow" is the real strein. guess there was a separation of the ways.......i had some widow twice. it grew like a dream. it was nearly tastless both times, and was not overly potent. so. with luck, maybe i never had a good cut.
 

MrStickyScissors

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i hear most of the widow is fake. the "black widow" is the real strein. guess there was a separation of the ways.......i had some widow twice. it grew like a dream. it was nearly tastless both times, and was not overly potent. so. with luck, maybe i never had a good cut.
yea a bad cut
 

silusbotwin

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i have had the same issue. to bag or not to bag. some of the renowned growers, like jorge, dont bag shit. i have done it both ways, and i think the jar situation, is what brings out the taste and smell. the bag just slows down the process. sounds like the way to go, if no mold comes.
In my experience it's not the jars that really "bring out" the aroma per se, but they do lock in aroma that is already releasing activated. The longer you stretch out the dry, the more the aroma "activates" so to speak. Think of it like marinating meat. Since the humidity is too low where I dry, I like to only line dry for 48 hours and then let them go a week inside of paper bags. The whole point is to lock in enough moisture to drag out the dry time as long as possible without holding in so much moisture that the buds never dry. If your buds dry too fast, they will smell like hay forever. Always better to put buds into bags/jars a bit early instead of waiting too long imo. Just make sure when you jar them, you dump them out and let them recrisp every so often before putting them back into jars/bags. The longer you stretch out the dry, the tastier the flavor. The longer the cure, the smoother the smoke. Over in Spain, they like to pump dry rooms with humid air to make their dry cycles take up to a month before even starting cure.

i hear most of the widow is fake. the "black widow" is the real strein. guess there was a separation of the ways.......i had some widow twice. it grew like a dream. it was nearly tastless both times, and was not overly potent. so. with luck, maybe i never had a good cut.
Some say Arjan has the original, and some say Shantibaba took the original WW genetics with him when he left off to Mr. Nice Seeds. Some say if you want the real Cannabis Cup winning WW you need to buy "Black Widow" from Mr. Nice. Some also say that the Cannabis Cup is one big sham publicity stunt though also so I dunno :peace:
 

atidd11

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In my experience it's not the jars that really "bring out" the aroma per se, but they do lock in aroma that is already releasing activated. The longer you stretch out the dry, the more the aroma "activates" so to speak. Think of it like marinating meat. Since the humidity is too low where I dry, I like to only line dry for 48 hours and then let them go a week inside of paper bags. The whole point is to lock in enough moisture to drag out the dry time as long as possible without holding in so much moisture that the buds never dry. If your buds dry too fast, they will smell like hay forever. Always better to put buds into bags/jars a bit early instead of waiting too long imo. Just make sure when you jar them, you dump them out and let them recrisp every so often before putting them back into jars/bags. The longer you stretch out the dry, the tastier the flavor. The longer the cure, the smoother the smoke. Over in Spain, they like to pump dry rooms with humid air to make their dry cycles take up to a month before even starting cure.



Some say Arjan has the original, and some say Shantibaba took the original WW genetics with him when he left off to Mr. Nice Seeds. Some say if you want the real Cannabis Cup winning WW you need to buy "Black Widow" from Mr. Nice. Some also say that the Cannabis Cup is one big sham publicity stunt though also so I dunno :peace:
Very good info!!
 

chb444220

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yeaaa botwin hit it point on. thats exactly the story.. i mean the White Widow you get from other dispensaries/seed companys is still good... but the "supposed" orignally creator went to Mr. Nice Seeds.. and renamed it "Black Widow"... the WW.. you musta got a bad batch. ive grown it a few times.. and both times.. smelled extremely fruity.. just like fruity pebbles... thats EXACTLY wat it smelled like. and it gets frosty as hell too!!! and is a nice yielder.. i got mine from Nirvana. ive been growing for a while now.. and lemme tell ya.... Nirvana has sum great genetics and a real cheap price as well. check out this WW i grew.. under only CFL's at the time. 3 1/2 ounces dry off this baby.


Another Side Branch 2 WW.jpgBud next to Bud. =p WW - Copy.jpgCured WW Buds.jpgWhite Widow Cured Bud.jpgWW Side Branches.jpgWW Whole Plant.jpganother WW bud.jpgmore WW pics.jpgWhite Widow Harvest.jpg



as for the hay smell.. probably lettin it dry either TOO LONG.. or TOO FAST.. ive had this happen to several diff harvest.. usually after a cure it will go away.. its tough for me too.. cuz i run an ionizer in my closet... which helps keep the smell down during the grow.. but also.. makes the buds loose the smell once it comes time to drying/curing. =/ youll eventually get the hang of it man.
 

dabumps

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Ok so I guess I have no concept of the actual cure. I Jared mine after 48 hours. It got way moist I put it in paper bags for 24 more hours it felt super dry so I put it in jars and they are hanging at about 70 eh but I can touch them they feel dry on the outside with a bit of give like they are a bit moist on the inside. My hygrometers are the cheap pet store ones but they are all between 65 and 70. Am I curing!? What goes on during a cure? How does time make it better?
 

crazyhazey

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Ok so I guess I have no concept of the actual cure. I Jared mine after 48 hours. It got way moist I put it in paper bags for 24 more hours it felt super dry so I put it in jars and they are hanging at about 70 eh but I can touch them they feel dry on the outside with a bit of give like they are a bit moist on the inside. My hygrometers are the cheap pet store ones but they are all between 65 and 70. Am I curing!? What goes on during a cure? How does time make it better?
tried the paper bag or wooden box method yet? that should help wick out moisture.
 

dabumps

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Yup they were in a paper bag for 24 hours. So they should feel crunch all the way through? It's been like 2 weeks or so?! I think they are curing... They are smelling better and better every day! Except the ones I let dry way out I used the old bread in the jar trick but they smell like hotdog bun but they are holding a 55% RH lol So they are gonna be a new technique that I put on here called the "hotdog bun" technique!! It's gonna be legendary!!
 

Ringsixty

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improper drying and curing will make it smell and taste like hay.

but, i had a strain. smelled like hay in flower and smelled like hay after dried and cured too.
stone was nice... but couldn't handle the smell or taste. turned it all into butter.
the butter was awesome.:leaf:
 

|B3RNY|

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That hay smell is chlorophyll, when buds are "quick-dryed" the chlorophyll does not have enough time to evaporate. Hang your buds for 2-3 days (I prefer upside-down) and then put them in to a brown bag/jar/whatever floats your boat and let them "air-out" once or twice a day. Curing with this method gets you marvelous tasting and smelling buds within 2 weeks, though the longer you wait, the better- I can not state this enough. THE LONGER, THE BETTER. Period.
 

crazyhazey

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Yup they were in a paper bag for 24 hours. So they should feel crunch all the way through? It's been like 2 weeks or so?! I think they are curing... They are smelling better and better every day! Except the ones I let dry way out I used the old bread in the jar trick but they smell like hotdog bun but they are holding a 55% RH lol So they are gonna be a new technique that I put on here called the "hotdog bun" technique!! It's gonna be legendary!!
hahaha is that the same thing as the orange peel one? the idea is basically to introduce extra moisture to the buds, remember stems retain lots of the moisture too. if they're dry enough(stems dont quite "snap" but they ease a bit), id put them in a bag for about 4-5 hours, then to a jar. if you can crunch them in your fingers, you dried to fast. try less airflow next time, and more days of drying so its even throughout. and try the paper bag earlier next time, they may have been ready for cure when you did it this time.
 

|B3RNY|

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Proper curing produces buds that are dry but not crunchy... they are in "case." When herbs are cured properly they will burn most efficiently. The idea is to prolong the drying method, being careful with extreme temperatures and humidity levels. High temperatures and low humidity levels dry buds too quickly, making them burn unevenly and be quite harsh when smoked. Low temperatures and high relative humidity levels promote mold. A dark place at ~75 degrees F with humidity around 40-50% works best for me. Then, once dry "to-the-touch", they go into glass jars. Big tupperware containers work fine as well. If it smells like hay, let it dry a little more; if its crunchy/crispy then put it into an airtight container, possibly along with a piece of lettuce to add a bit of moisture. You will know when it is finished.
 

jpockets420

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God its not that hard to properly dry and cure bud. 2 days of hang drying is not nearly enough unless you have airy popcorn buds grown with cfl's. You need at least 5 days and that might be too soon. I hang dry until the branch just is able to snap,not bend. I clip the buds into jars and seal. The first week the jars get opened 4 times a day for 5 minutes, the second week twice a day for 5 minutes, the 3rd and 4th week I play it by ear and might only open the jar once per day. After a month I have sweet sugary awesome tasting buds. I have never altered this method and I find that having severe ocd will make for hay tasting bud everytime. Set a timer to open your jars on your cell phone or something and just leave them alone. Checking them all the time will only make you want to smoke them more, thus causing you to dry to fast and screw the whole grow up. Its not rocket science people smh. When your drying bud you not only are trying to get the moisture out slowly, but you want to allow the buds proper time to break down sugars, produce terpines and flavanoids etc. If you don't let the bud properly rid itself of chlorophyll using a slow process it will taste like crap everytime. Slow and steady wins the race.
 

lowblower

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mine been drying for 4 days and still had the hay smell but i dunno if this is recommended, coz i know that disruption to the trichs can rupture the ball glands on top, BUT i squeezed the buds gently but firmly so the buds compact and some of the thc will rupture and leak the THCV into the buds and infuse them with the smell of when they were growing. i just did this to all my buds and now my curing jar smells dank. if the buds in the curing jar are moist to the touch and bend, then u can leave the jar open and put an oscillating fan on slow speed in front of the jar for a couple hours each night and morning until u get the right blend of crispyness and moisture to start the more traditional curing. every time u crisp up the outside of the buds, put the lid back on and wait for the moisture to draw outwards from the stem, a bit more each day with the process. but yeah, squeezed the buds so they compact, but dont handle them too much. im leaving mine as they are till the end of curing now, they should infuse nicely :D
 

dabumps

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Yea that was day 2 of my dry! They are doing really well now. They don't smell like hay. They are smelling more and more dank and I'm not smoking them either so It's almost been 2 ish weeks so I'm bout to break em open for the first trial...
 

crazyhazey

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Yea that was day 2 of my dry! They are doing really well now. They don't smell like hay. They are smelling more and more dank and I'm not smoking them either so It's almost been 2 ish weeks so I'm bout to break em open for the first trial...
sounds like your making progress, keep curing them until they're evenly dry.
 

brettsog

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i have to agree, i was so disappointed when my ak47 was dry. it smelled like wet hay. it really annoyed me. i left it in a jar in my cupboard for 10 days, opened it for 15 mins once a day. my god did it stink when i got it out. smoked an ounce and a half with my boy in 2 days lol.... whoops
 
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