dank smoker420
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i finished my first year and am starting to think its pretty pointless.
what are your guys views on college?
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xKuroiTaimax
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Many views on it...
I think too many kids are pushed to go in the same direction. Too many people trying to go for the highest paid occupations, mostly ended up in desk jobs.There's a lack of artisan crafts and practical skillls that might be better prepared for with more apprenticeships. If they try and get EVERYONE to go to college, a degree is devalued. The want EVERYONE to try for the same career path wi=hich is just not sustainable, instead of encouraging kids to do what they are good at and could offer as a service to society. Too many people with degrees in jobs who still don't know what the fuck they are doing and do not give two flying fucks about what they are doing. Just the piece of paper that says they can. So much of it is convoluted waffle and bullshit rather than people being there who actually have a passion for their chosen subject or even for learning. THose in my class admitted they were only going to stay out of work. Career students. The whole establishment seemed disillusioned and the tutors were just there for the money. No passion. Skill and talent means nothing to people now. Just certificates and resulting paychecks. I cannot believe I was paying for such bollocks.
So I dropped out (but because of other issues at home as well)
I'm currently reapplying for a three year degree in Formal and Informal Writing + Illustration. I'm going to keep my head down and get on with my work, trying my best to ignore the pretentious bullshit. Not to mention the ridiculously complex application process.
I think too many kids are pushed to go in the same direction. Too many people trying to go for the highest paid occupations, mostly ended up in desk jobs.There's a lack of artisan crafts and practical skillls that might be better prepared for with more apprenticeships. If they try and get EVERYONE to go to college, a degree is devalued. The want EVERYONE to try for the same career path wi=hich is just not sustainable, instead of encouraging kids to do what they are good at and could offer as a service to society. Too many people with degrees in jobs who still don't know what the fuck they are doing and do not give two flying fucks about what they are doing. Just the piece of paper that says they can. So much of it is convoluted waffle and bullshit rather than people being there who actually have a passion for their chosen subject or even for learning. THose in my class admitted they were only going to stay out of work. Career students. The whole establishment seemed disillusioned and the tutors were just there for the money. No passion. Skill and talent means nothing to people now. Just certificates and resulting paychecks. I cannot believe I was paying for such bollocks.
So I dropped out (but because of other issues at home as well)
I'm currently reapplying for a three year degree in Formal and Informal Writing + Illustration. I'm going to keep my head down and get on with my work, trying my best to ignore the pretentious bullshit. Not to mention the ridiculously complex application process.
Nitegazer
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It depends what you want to get from it. If you want to be a lawyer or other education-based trade, the sheepskin is required. If you want to learn critical thinking, clear communication, and a broadened view of things, college *may* be worth it. It depends on the college and what courses you take (and what you put into them). I can also say that *not* having a college degree means having a lower pay scale for many office jobs.
If you have a skilled trade or are an entrepreneur, college is not needed, and may even slow you down.
Whatever you do, don't expect the degree to do much of anything on its own. In today's market, the degree is just a start; it will take great grades, an internship or good use of colligiate networks to make it worth your while.
In full disclosure, I have a Masters Degree, and it helped get me into a very happy place in my career.
If you have a skilled trade or are an entrepreneur, college is not needed, and may even slow you down.
Whatever you do, don't expect the degree to do much of anything on its own. In today's market, the degree is just a start; it will take great grades, an internship or good use of colligiate networks to make it worth your while.
In full disclosure, I have a Masters Degree, and it helped get me into a very happy place in my career.
xKuroiTaimax
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Yes, that's a point, It really depends on what you want to get into. Highly skilled and specialized jobs like a Doctor or Lawyer... well, I don't think there are any two ways about it. To be practicing in that field professionally you need a degree. My opinion is a little polarized by the kind of industry I'm in and people I know.
billybob420
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I only went to school for a year and got the job I'm doing now (web dev). In my case it was kind of pointless, but being able to say "I'm taking classes blah blah blah" was a plus and helped me get in the door (they wanted someone with experience or who was going to school), so that's something. It also depends on your field a lot and what you want to do. Somethings you need a degree, some you don't, and some it helps.
My gf got her masters in art history. She works at a department store. Some people have bad luck after coming out, or pick unpractical majors (like art history).
My gf got her masters in art history. She works at a department store. Some people have bad luck after coming out, or pick unpractical majors (like art history).
Carne Seca
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Get your degree and then worry about what's pointless. What's pointless is squandering your education only to end up working at a 7-2-11 until you die from a preventable illness due to lack of insurance. Think ahead!
Winter Woman
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Good with math? If so check out being an actuarial analyst it has a 0% unemployment rate and starts at $46k (no experience and has a signing bonus) to $300k (with advanced experience )
RainbowBrite86
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I love love love school. I would go even if it never got me a job. I love learning, I love classrooms, and i'm a sucker for positive reinforcements so those A's are like candy to me.
billybob420
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Nobody likes a go-getter.
RainbowBrite86
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You're right
What guy would like a girl who loves to be taught new things and is eager for positive reinforcement? Hmmm....
RainbowBrite86
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I've been going to college since I was 16 years old. I have yet to see someone getting hazed. Hell I've yet to see anyone being bullied at all. Not saying it couldn't have happened but maybe it would have gone a little more smoothly is the alcohol and drugs were taken out of the equation...
billybob420
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Not I, no m'am. I like my girls dumb. Real dumb.You're right
RainbowBrite86
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Well yes, I suppose some men might. I mean...it's kind of like eating...if you are only able to eat one type of food, eventually you acquire a taste for it.
chrishydro
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Im a 50 year old employer, in todays job market I would not even talk to someone that does not have a degree, by the way I dont, bottom line I see it as someone that was dedicated enough to finsh.
dank smoker420
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hmm very interesting views. gives me more motivation to finish except what i am looking at is a total of 6 years or even more. im looking to become a pharmacist. i know people here probably hate that. but i would want to create safer drugs for people to use. maybe even go out in the jungles and find exotic plants with medicinal values and less harmful side effects.
TexRx
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I was at college a long time ago - like 1988-1990. There were lots of bullying types. There was lots of homophobia at the colleges I was at. There was lots of fighting. I heard of a guy getting beat up so bad that he had broken bones in his face and needed re-constructive surgery. It was a different time. Lots of people were racist, too. The only few black people there were either playing sports or using a scholarship
Pharmacists do not create drugs, chemists do. Pharmacists dispense them. There are a few, rare compounding pharmacists left but then they only compound the already established and tested preparations. So if you want to go searching the Rainforest for new study chemistry. Oh yes and having your own lab requires a Ph.D. So you are looking at a couple more than 6 years.
But the beauty of college is don't go in with a fixed idea of you will be X keep an open mind and explore. Besides that's what breadth requirements are about. Getting people out of their area of comfort and making a well-balanced person.
I moved from private school to public in junior high. I spent the majority of that year upside down in trashcans. I left the public high school the moment I could which was my sophomore year. To escape bullying. Then again I was never very social and mostly focused on class so possibly that was why.
I agree with you I LOVED college. I loved it FAR more than the real world and spent the majority of my life there. I was always in school.
newatit2010
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My grandson starts july 9 he is one happy kid.